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Kasept 09-25-2017 05:13 PM

11/3-4 (BC): POST DRAWN ~ Classic, Distaff, Mile, Turf, F&M Turf
 







RHT2004 09-25-2017 05:22 PM

Arrogate rolls. Hope they gun him to the lead. Like The Travers. I actually want him to draw inside the other speeds.

Indian Charlie 09-25-2017 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100080)
Arrogate rolls. Hope they gun him to the lead. Like The Travers. I actually want him to draw inside the other speeds.

That was his best race by far. I was stunned that chrome got the lead on him next out.

RHT2004 09-25-2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1100085)
That was his best race by far. I was stunned that chrome got the lead on him next out.

It was his best, but by far? He ran Chrome down on the square in the BC.
My thing is he hasnt been himself the last 2, and this is probably it for him. Why not go and make them beat you.

Indian Charlie 09-25-2017 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100087)
It was his best, but by far? He ran Chrome down on the square in the BC.
My thing is he hasnt been himself the last 2, and this is probably it for him. Why not go and make them beat you.

Yes, by far. That performance in the Travers was incredible.

RHT2004 09-25-2017 06:47 PM

Considering what Gun Runner did before and since Dubai, I would say his Travers,BC, World Cup triple is as big a 3 races I can remember one horse running. Sprinkle the Gulfstream race in and it's not really shocking he's lost form a bit.

Indian Charlie 09-25-2017 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100089)
Considering what Gun Runner did before and since Dubai, I would say his Travers,BC, World Cup triple is as big a 3 races I can remember one horse running. Sprinkle the Gulfstream race in and it's not really shocking he's lost form a bit.

I don't know what's happened to him, but I doubt it's as easy as saying he's regressed somewhat.

RHT2004 09-25-2017 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1100094)
I don't know what's happened to him, but I doubt it's as easy as saying he's regressed somewhat.

Its hard to figure it all out. The 113 beyer last time really stumps me.

Indian Charlie 09-25-2017 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100095)
Its hard to figure it all out. The 113 beyer last time really stumps me.

Off the top of my head, I'd guess he doesn't care for the surface. Of course, he did win over it last year. Of course, that was over far weaker.

Yep, stumped is an apt way to describe it.

10 pnt move up 09-25-2017 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1100098)
Off the top of my head, I'd guess he doesn't care for the surface. Of course, he did win over it last year. Of course, that was over far weaker.

Yep, stumped is an apt way to describe it.

i thought they replaced the entire surface for this season so he had never really ran over it before?

Indian Charlie 09-25-2017 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1100103)
i thought they replaced the entire surface for this season so he had never really ran over it before?

Oh. I wasn't aware of that. That makes the track surface as a culprit much more likely.

taxicab 09-25-2017 10:09 PM

Sure like this one.
She's 8 for 13 lifetime and on the improve.
Highway Star is very fond of the sandy Belmont oval........that translates well to the also sandy DMR main.
Of course..........10-1 or so helps.


https://youtu.be/MMgPzIMoGgQ

RHT2004 09-26-2017 11:39 AM

Grand Jete.

10 pnt move up 09-26-2017 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100115)
Grand Jete.

Is she going to start again this year...getting a little fed up with these horse never running. Its making bobby frankel look like a entry box stuffer.

blackthroatedwind 09-26-2017 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1100124)
Is she going to start again this year...getting a little fed up with these horse never running. Its making bobby frankel look like a entry box stuffer.

She's running in the Flower Bowl, the next logical spot after the Beverly D. Her fifth start in less than six months. She hardly sits idly in the barn.

You're really ramping up the cynicism these days, Greg. At least selectively that is.

10 pnt move up 09-26-2017 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1100125)
She's running in the Flower Bowl, the next logical spot after the Beverly D. Her fifth start in less than six months. She hardly sits idly in the barn.

You're really ramping up the cynicism these days, Greg. At least selectively that is.

I am not sure you are aware but the horses are skipping racing all over this country, open your eyes.

from baffert, to assumussen, to brown.......from sea to shining sea.

RHT2004 09-26-2017 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1100124)
Is she going to start again this year...getting a little fed up with these horse never running. Its making bobby frankel look like a entry box stuffer.

Her trip at Arlington is a horror show for anyone who bet her. Looked like a winner every step, never given a chance to run.

blackthroatedwind 09-26-2017 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1100127)
I am not sure you are aware but the horses are skipping racing all over this country, open your eyes.

from baffert, to assumussen, to brown.......from sea to shining sea.

My eyes are wide open, Greg, which you well know. However, taking shots at everything, as you have been doing for the better part of this year, makes you the boy who cried wolf, and thus invalidates your thoughts.

Grand Jete is hardly the poster child for horses that are under-raced. In fact, the two I can think of that fit that bill the most this year, aren't even trained by household names. Those would be Forever Unbridled and Stellar Wind.

Who is Steve Asmussen leaving in the barn....Gun Runner? You must be kidding me.

Blanket accusations tend to get you in trouble.

RHT2004 09-26-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1100129)
My eyes are wide open, Greg, which you well know. However, taking shots at everything, as you have been doing for the better part of this year, makes you the boy who cried wolf, and thus invalidates your thoughts.

Grand Jete is hardly the poster child for horses that are under-raced. In fact, the two I can think of that fit that bill the most this year, aren't even trained by household names. Those would be Forever Unbridled and Stellar Wind.

Who is Steve Asmussen leaving in the barn....Gun Runner? You must be kidding me.

Blanket accusations tend to get you in trouble.

Last horse to win Foster, Whitney and Woodward?
Mineshaft won 2 of the 3 I believe and the JCGC.

10 pnt move up 09-26-2017 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100128)
Her trip at Arlington is a horror show for anyone who bet her. Looked like a winner every step, never given a chance to run.

I bet her pretty good, more than pretty good. I thought she was a cinch.


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