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Kasept 04-11-2012 12:07 PM

4/14 (KEE): Blue Grass, Wiley (G1's), Comm (G2), Shakertown (G3)
 
8th (4:42) Jenny Wiley S. (G1)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Heavenly Landing Lanerie C J 118 LA
2 Zagora (FR) Castellano J J 118 LA
3 Tapitsfly Leparoux J R 120 LA
4 Aruna Dominguez R A 118 LA
5 Daisy Devine Graham J 118 LA
6 Bay to Bay Gomez G K 118 L



9th (5:13) Commonwealth S. (G2)

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $175,000

1 Comedero Graham J 118 LA
2 Right One (FR) Gomez G K 118 L
3 Plutonium Desormeaux K J 118 LA
4 El Gran Sol Pedroza M 118 LA
5 Lonesome Street Rosario J 118 LA
6 Philippe Leparoux J R 118 LA
7 Bergerac Castellano J J 118 LA



10th (5:44) Shakertown S. (G3)

5 1/2 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Perfect Officer Castellano J J 118 L
2 Concorde's Flight Gomez G K 118 LA
3 Great Attack Sanchez J 120 L
4 Havelock Rosario J 120 LA
5 Byesville Straight M 118 L
6 Zeb Prado E S 118 LA
7 Great Mills Leparoux J R 120 LA
8 Surfrider (IRE) Dominguez R A 118 LA
9 Chamberlain Bridge Theriot H J II 120 LA
10 Unsaddled Glory Graham J 118 L



11th (6:18) Toyota Blue Grass S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Heavy Breathing Lanerie C J 123 LA
2 Gung Ho Prado E S 123 LA
3 Prospective Contreras L 123 L
4 Hansen Dominguez R A 123 LA
5 Russian Greek Mena M 123 Blk-Off LA
6 Dullahan Desormeaux K J 123 LA
7 Politicallycorrect Trujillo E 123 L
8 Midnight Crooner Gomez G K 123 L
9 Holy Candy Rosario J 123 LA
10 Howe Great Castellano J J 123 L
11 Ever So Lucky Leparoux J R 123 LA
12 Hero of Order Martin E M Jr 123 L
13 Scatman Bridgmohan S X 123 L

Kasept 04-12-2012 05:33 AM

Couple thoughts after a glance...

Don't go through the PP's for the Commonwealth and Shakertown too quickly... It's hard to tell where which race finishes and the other starts.

Dullahan has to get the desired set up. There's just too many front end types in the Blue Grass for the pace not to be at least honest.

Will be interesting to see who wants the lead in the Jenny Wiley because someone may have the opportunity to take control. Leparoux with Tapitsfly? Gomez with Bay to Bay? Graham with Daisy Devine? Wasted Tears would look good again in this. Zagora's better than these and will win, but it sure feels like she's going to have catch someone who gets away with an easy time of it up front.

lemoncrush 04-12-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 851900)
Couple thoughts after a glance...

Don't go through the PP's for the Commonwealth and Shakertown too quickly... It's hard to tell where which race finishes and the other starts.

Dullahan has to get the desired set up. There's just too many front end types in the Blue Grass for the pace not to be at least honest.

Will be interesting to see who wants the lead in the Jenny Wiley because someone may have the opportunity to take control. Leparoux with Tapitsfly? Gomez with Bay to Bay? Graham with Daisy Devine? Wasted Tears would look good again in this. Zagora's better than these and will win, but it sure feels like she's going to have catch someone who gets away with an easy time of it up front.

Agree about Zagora. Assume Aruna will "need one" and won't be at her best for this one.

Clip-Clop 04-12-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 851974)
Agree about Zagora. Assume Aruna will "need one" and won't be at her best for this one.

I will be leaning on Aruna, for me its an A to Z exacta.

miraja2 04-12-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 851900)
Dullahan has to get the desired set up. There's just too many front end types in the Blue Grass for the pace not to be at least honest.

I think this is a very interesting race. Perhaps I'm over-thinking it and Hansen will simply dominate this group, but Prospective and Dullahan are almost as likely to win, in my opinion, because of the likely pace scenario. It also wouldn't shock me to see Politicallycorrect and/or Heavy Breathing hit the board at a big price. Looking forward to this one.

cakes44 04-12-2012 05:07 PM

What are we thinking Dullahan goes off at? I really don't see him staying under the radar.

miraja2 04-12-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 852093)
What are we thinking Dullahan goes off at? I really don't see him staying under the radar.

Somewhere around 5/1 perhaps?

That workout on Sunday sure isn't going to help the price at all.

Dahoss 04-13-2012 09:36 AM

Dullahan almost seems too good to be true.

Should get a perfect setup, handled the track before, working well. The problem is EVERYONE (including myself) likes him, so I worry about the price, even with Hansen in there.

blackthroatedwind 04-13-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 852213)
Dullahan almost seems too good to be true.

Should get a perfect setup, handled the track before, working well. The problem is EVERYONE (including myself) likes him, so I worry about the price, even with Hansen in there.

I agree completely. You look at the race and it's almost hard to imagine him losing without a serious incident. Nothing is ever that easy at the racetrack.

VOL JACK 04-13-2012 10:28 AM

Looking at Dullahan's PP's and seeing the lack of mid 90 Beyer's that a horse like Hansen has, I think Dullahan will have to be 5:1 or more.

HaloWishingwell 04-13-2012 10:37 AM

race looks like a possible set up for Dullahan but don't like the fact that he's 1-5 even throwing out his first two sprint races. His one winning race on this track won't win this race. I rather take a shot with Ever So Lucky at his price or Great Howe who seems to find a way to win.

Alabama Stakes 04-13-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 851974)
Agree about Zagora. Assume Aruna will "need one" and won't be at her best for this one.


what price will they be ?

blackthroatedwind 04-13-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 852218)
Looking at Dullahan's PP's and seeing the lack of mid 90 Beyer's that a horse like Hansen has, I think Dullahan will have to be 5:1 or more.

There are very few even mildly credible options in this race.

jms62 04-13-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 852247)
There are very few even mildly credible options in this race.

Therefore something crazy like Gung Ho will win it.

miraja2 04-13-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell (Post 852220)
or Great Howe who seems to find a way to win.

But the way he finds to win has been on the rail and at the front of slowly paced turf races. In this race doesn't the exact opposite (caught wide & facing a fast pace) appear more likely?

HaloWishingwell 04-13-2012 02:08 PM

I'm not expecting Great Howe to be in the front. Hoping someone or others will do the dirty work up front against Hansen. Grass horses can handle the synthetics.

alysheba4 04-13-2012 02:47 PM

3/4/6 tri box

Conrad 04-13-2012 03:15 PM

I think Dullahan can beat Howe Great this time.
The trip horse is going to be Heavy Breathing, who should tuck in nice and cozy behind Hansen, Scatman and maybe Hero Of Order. He's quick enough to stay close and some improvement in his final figs could put him in the mix. He ran pretty well last time in his graded stakes debut (lifetime best fig) and another move forward is plausible. Gets a patient jock in Lanerie and the right move may get him to the front in the lane.

Prospective projects to get a nice trip too but Contreras will probably find himself 4 wide on the last turn somehow instead of staying inside. He should be able to get an inside trip; just follow Lanerie !

my early exacta is 1-6 w 1-3-4-6

tywizard 04-13-2012 03:21 PM

Dullahan - Flattered by Coalport in that last race....I'm guessing 3-1 at post time. What do you think the odds will be in multi's? Seems like many outlets have Dullahan winning....so I'm thinking PK3/PK4 Odds will be even lower.

RockHardTen1985 04-13-2012 03:30 PM

Holy candy is likely not good enough, but 30to1?? Try more like 12 if even that high.


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