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Kasept 03-06-2019 03:08 PM

3/9 (AQU): Gotham, Tom Fool (G3's), Busher, Stymie
 

RHT2004 03-06-2019 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1123020)

Bullet Bob

RHT2004 03-07-2019 01:08 PM

Im against Instagrand. He can beat me. Same with Mind Control. Im using the 4,8 and maybe a little 5. I want no one else in the Gotham.
The Busher feels wide open. The 12 is probably my top pick, but i could use 4 or 5 others.

ONTHERAIL 03-08-2019 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1123073)
Im against Instagrand. He can beat me. Same with Mind Control. Im using the 4,8 and maybe a little 5. I want no one else in the Gotham.
The Busher feels wide open. The 12 is probably my top pick, but i could use 4 or 5 others.

With all due respect no one is beating Instagrand. There is value in the Baffert horse, but that is one pitiful line, and you will see nowhere near 10-1
Get lucky!

ONTHERAIL 03-08-2019 09:45 AM

Won't see 10-1 on the McLaughlin horse, sorry I should proofread before sending things.

moses 03-08-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ONTHERAIL (Post 1123137)
With all due respect no one is beating Instagrand. There is value in the Baffert horse, but that is one pitiful line, and you will see nowhere near 10-1
Get lucky!

Instagrand hasn’t raced in 7 months, has never gone more than 6 furlongs, and this field is, by far, the best competition he has yet to face.

He may well win but I would have liked to see him in a race prior to this, preferably longer than 6 furlongs. Even if he is as good as many people think, this could be a tough spot. Just look at Hidden Scroll, and that horse had already won at a mile.

ONTHERAIL 03-08-2019 11:23 AM

Breeding suggests distance should not be an issue, but I do get all your concerns with the horse coming into this. The competition is indeed stiffer, but there are no world beaters here and frankly Kiaran's horse scares me more than the Baffert(even with his impeccable record shipping into NY) But imho this horse is a freak, and if he performs tomorrow as I think he will, we are about to have a new favorite for the Derby. Only hoping the general public sees things as you do so my price can drift up a bit as there is nothing appealing about 4/5.

Andrew

blackthroatedwind 03-08-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1123141)
Instagrand hasn’t raced in 7 months, has never gone more than 6 furlongs, and this field is, by far, the best competition he has yet to face.

He may well win but I would have liked to see him in a race prior to this, preferably longer than 6 furlongs. Even if he is as good as many people think, this could be a tough spot. Just look at Hidden Scroll, and that horse had already won at a mile.

Instagrand ran faster as a 2YO in early August than most of these have ever run. Comparing him to Hidden Scroll is odd, as if he runs as well as that one just did, he is about 99% to win the Gotham.

He might lose, any horse can, but he is WAY the horse to beat here.

cakes44 03-09-2019 04:23 PM

Without even watching the other 2 yet, I’m guessing the Gotham will be the worst of the 3 Derby preps today. Not sure who wants any piece of two turns out of that group.

moses 03-09-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1123150)
Instagrand ran faster as a 2YO in early August than most of these have ever run. Comparing him to Hidden Scroll is odd, as if he runs as well as that one just did, he is about 99% to win the Gotham.

He might lose, any horse can, but he is WAY the horse to beat here.

I was only trying to say that no matter how good Instagrand is, this could be a tough spot for him for a number of reasons. I preferred to bet against him, especially at below even money.

RHT2004 03-09-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1123233)
Without even watching the other 2 yet, I’m guessing the Gotham will be the worst of the 3 Derby preps today. Not sure who wants any piece of two turns out of that group.

Bafferts horse could be a monster sprinter.

cakes44 03-09-2019 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1123240)
Bafferts horse could be a monster sprinter.

If you actually ended up on that 5 at all, nice work.

RHT2004 03-09-2019 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1123242)
If you actually ended up on that 5 at all, nice work.

I pressed 4,8 backed up with the 5. He ended up a B. Im alive right now to 2 3 12

moses 03-09-2019 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1123244)
I pressed 4,8 backed up with the 5. He ended up a B. Im alive right now to 2 3 12

Nice!

cakes44 03-09-2019 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1123233)
Without even watching the other 2 yet, I’m guessing the Gotham will be the worst of the 3 Derby preps today. Not sure who wants any piece of two turns out of that group.

Definitely spoke too soon. The Jeff Ruby...whoa.

moses 03-09-2019 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1123252)
Definitely spoke too soon. The Jeff Ruby...whoa.

lol


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