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Circular Quay off the board. Notional wins....Didn't see it.

slew's tizzy clipped heels in the stretch and threw jockey, it did impact other horses. *back to lurking*

Don't be a lurker there dude, was Notional impressive?

How did Slew's Tizzy look before that? My nephew liked this horse.

Notional was impressive, I had Zanjero but he was 2nd best. Not sure what happened to circular quay, he might have been affected by the thrown jockey. Im not a dude :)

Haha, sorry.

Finally a chart available.

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...&RACE=9&BorP=B

if thats the case....let me be the first to welcome you:cool: :D

haha, I knew that was coming.:D

did you know this was coming too???GFY:D

you're creepy, you know that :eek: :D

Notional waqs wonderful today Rand.. Did all O'Neill would want... Grew up a lot. Sat off while outside; moved when asked and fought for lead; looked collared and stayed on between horses before drawing off to win by a couple.

Circular Quay was down inside and marooned. Nowhere to go at the top of the stretch. As is always the problem with horses like him... Bill Kaplan's "W&CGuy" ran very nicely chasing wide and coming on late. Zanjero third but I never really "saw" what he was doing...

Don't know how far Notional wants to stretch, but he's a quality colt and all the way back to his insanely huge debut now...

O'Neill-Reddam and Bill Kaplan... 30% of the Derby field between them? Possible...

HELLO?!?!!?!....Am I not the head of the welcoming committee around here???

if not...I need to be:o

Buffymommy, Slew's Tizzy was not going to win anyway, I dont think, but he looked okay after the incident, he ran on through the wire. Thanks for the welcome!

Yeah.. You're definitely the Weirdo Welcome Wagon...

Awesome, thanks. Thinking maybe this is O'Neill chance after losing Stevie Wonderboy to injury in his 3yr old season.

It's hard to say how much run he would have had though before avoiding the 1 after it tossed Graham.

He ran on well to be fifth. Not sure he would have been the winner, but may have made it interesting.....

And Jim Graham gets off the ground, dusts himself off and wins the next race.. I thought he was trampled and dead...

you realize there is no pay for that position...and no immunity from restraining orders or stalking suits?:p :D

someone has to make the ladies of the board feel at home and welcome around here:cool:

Interesting for third..

I am putting in my 2 weeks notice then...:(

I'm starting to think he is like Quagmire from Family Guy.

that's like saying 'this is my last post' we both know it isn't true:cool:

any video yet?

never seen it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deWuyjx1lRU

:D :D

I'm confused....did anyone actually WATCH this race?

Circular Quay, who I don't like and bet against, had an " Invasor trip " times ten. He was jammed inside by Velasquez and when the horse broke down directly in front of him he was COMPLETELY eliminated and lost many lengths. Please watch this race again.

Look, I don't think a great deal of Circular Quay going two turns, but the flow of the race fit his running style and he did VERY well to finish where he did considering his ridiculous amount of trouble.

haha, your role model for sure.

Fair Grounds is unavailable on Youbet so I couldn't see it.

Touché. But "interesting for third" is the same thing in this race as "interesting for the place," which would not have been half bad with the way Notional ran.

I was sure he was going to go down when I saw it. Like I said before -- not sure he was the winner, but would have made it interesting and acquitted himself nicely after the incident.

nope, not on in the hinterlands.

From what I saw as I only watched most of the race once on TVG CQ was off DEAD LAST and moved up along the inside . (TVG replayed the jockey falling about 10 times.) At the head of the lane JV had to pull him up to avoid the fallen rider. After that he had absolutely no shot. Just before the incident it looked like JV had plenty of horse, whether or not it was enough to get through the field in the stretch is another thing. The way Notional ran I doubt CQ would have gotten there in the end. CQ was in traffice on the rail and would have had to pass most of the field in the strecth.

In my opinion he would finished stroing but probably at best only gotten third or fourth at best.

Hope this helps.

I didn't think he would have won but certainly would have had a shot at 2nd without the problems. I'm going to be watching his odds closely in the Derby futures to see if they skyrocket.

Was thinking that Notional winning doesn't make Liquidity look too bad either. Notional's going to go down the tube, and Liquidity may remain a good value in there. That was my first thought.

Well, one place he wasn't finishing was third....being that a head seperated the second and third finishers.

I have no idea where he would have finished, save to say much closer than he did, and I will bet against him when he is ridiculously overbet again next time. He's a closing sprinter and not even necessarily a particularly good one at that. However, he was completely eliminated today, after getting a very sweet trip albeit he was a bit slow out of the gate and the horse outside of him came over. Since he was dropping out of it anyway it really didn't particularly affect his positioning.

Circular Quay was down on the rail and got reamed by the horse right in front of him. He was so full of run i believe that he was going to easily win the race. Others may disagree but i strongly believe he would have drawn off.

I loved 'crazy today and his second was a bit of a letdown. But, CQ was moving with him around the turn. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that CQ would have finished near or better than 'crazy, just based upon how he was going on the turn. Of course anything could have happened in the stretch, but CQ was completely eliminated and finished very well none-the-less.

And yes, he'll be stupidly overbet next time.... much like he was today.

Watched again... 4X.. No way to know where Quay could have finished, but certainly lost all chance. I thought he was ahead of the incident in amongst when watching live, but was watching the action up front then. That's always the problem with a laggard running style, and JV might have thought about trying to get him off the rail well before the top of the stretch.

Yea,I saw it.A total toss for C.Q. NOTIONAL got a nice win.Spankey is lookin' for his boy Buckwheat.