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Rootdog1 02-01-2007 10:42 PM

SA Friday - Sinister Minister in the 6th
 
Still amazing this guy was ~ 9-1 in the Derby. I felt my heart jump abit as I look back through the PP's and see Barbaro, 6.5 length winner on May 6th 2006.

SM is working lights out, but it is no shocker based on the speed ball that he is. I think he is a bet against, but not sure where to land. I like Neko Bay but 8 months off is a lot to overcome, but he will have the set up. I found it interesting that Cnak choose hanger County rather then ride back on Neko....I guess it is possible Drysdale wanted Espinoza though. Racketeer at 9/2 is appealing. The 5th is a great race too - lots of talented horses, and this is a great pk4 for a Friday.

Scav 02-01-2007 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
Still amazing this guy was ~ 9-1 in the Derby. I felt my heart jump abit as I look back through the PP's and see Barbaro, 6.5 length winner on May 6th 2006.

SM is working lights out, but it is no shocker based on the speed ball that he is. I think he is a bet against, but not sure where to land. I like Neko Bay but 8 months off is a lot to overcome, but he will have the set up. I found it interesting that Cnak choose hanger County rather then ride back on Neko....I guess it is possible Drysdale wanted Espinoza though. Racketeer at 9/2 is appealing. The 5th is a great race too - lots of talented horses, and this is a great pk4 for a Friday.

We argued about this a while back on here (not you and I but a whole group), he is a bet against the rest of his life, he ran that huge back at Keeneland that is he DONE, and will ALWAYS be bet because of that effort.

Gauchos0522 02-01-2007 10:50 PM

As evidenced by his finish and races after the derby he should have been 30-1. For some reason people did not want to believe that his win in the blue grass was extremely bias aided after like 10 of the 13 route races at Keeneland up to that point at that meet had gone wire to wire. Was the first horse I completley threw out last year.

Rudeboyelvis 02-02-2007 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
he ran that huge back at Keeneland that is he DONE, and will ALWAYS be bet because of that effort.

Track bias or not...That was the most convincing ass-whoopin's I've seen in recent history.

Anyone with access to a replay of last year's Bluegrass Stakes ought to revist that one...

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 12:44 PM

D Freak is scratched.

Rootdog1 02-02-2007 01:09 PM

kinda upset he did scratch, as he was gonna get beat at a short price. My theory on the day was, and still is, beat Baffert. Beat Tenfold in the 5th, Sinister in the 6th, and Hockey in the 7th.

I wonder if Sherriffs has Neko in the 6th cranked up for this....I think he is a bet against also. Guess that leaves Racketeer, Mambo and County....

Like Mr. Katz and the obvious chalk in the 7th, and the 8th is set up for some good prices - using 1,3,4,6

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 01:19 PM

Why is Neko a bet against? All he has ever done is bust his a$$ trying to win.

brianwspencer 02-02-2007 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
he is a bet against the rest of his life.

My mom liked him in the Derby....that makes him a permanent bet-against. I could not agree more.

Gander 02-02-2007 01:30 PM

I bet him in the Derby. Was a horrible decision but I dont expect to hit the Derby anyways. Betting High Finance (who I think wins tomorrow) in the Belmont was an even worse bet.

Nikewed 02-02-2007 01:55 PM

An abscess was cut out of SM's foot DERBY week. SM missed a number of days of training as a result.

This was public knowledge.

Assume, for a moment, that you didn't think the Bluegrass win was biased;

you're still not betting the horse in the Derby.

Rootdog1 02-02-2007 01:56 PM

Slower figs then the rest, off the pace style, and an 11 month layoff......at 2-1 or so I think he is a play against but could he win, heck yes he could......just not value for me there. I am wrong MUCH more then I am right though. Bet away scuds.

Gander 02-02-2007 02:05 PM

Well it was either him or another dog- Point Determined.

Rootdog1 02-02-2007 02:26 PM

and away I go....

pk4
5)1,2
6)2,3,8,9
7)1,3,10
8)1,3,4,6

5)8
6)2,8
7)1,10
8)1,3,4,6

Pk3
5)1
6)2,3,8,9
7)1,3,10

5)1,2,7
6)2,3,8,9
7)1,3,10

6)2,3,8
7)1,3,10
8)1,3,4,6

6)2,3,8,9
7)1,10
8)1,3,4,6

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 02:45 PM

Don't understand why people think the only speed in the 6th race is now gunna be Devil's Bay.Mambo Train just led a race down the hill,and I can't see that horse allowing Devil's Bay a 47 or something stupid.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-02-2007 03:05 PM

antongorgii..lol..........

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 05:02 PM

Race 5 pick 4

1,2,3,5, 7 / 3, 9 / 1, 3 / 2



8 / 3, 9 / 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 / 2

8/3,9/1,3/4,6

Coach Pants 02-02-2007 05:05 PM

Race 5

$1 pick 4
8/3,8/1/1,2,3,4,5,6,7

2/3/1/1,2,3,4,5,6,7

$4 pick 3
8/3,8/1,2,3,8

Coach Pants 02-02-2007 05:10 PM

I'm taking a week off. That was unreal.

Rudeboyelvis 02-02-2007 05:21 PM

These odds are bullsh1t... I realize it's 16 min to post AND the 6 and a longshot are scratched, but everythings an underlay from M/L...a 20-1 going off @ 7-2.., etc...

Not giving these so and so's (I've said worse about SA :D ) the benefit...will watch this one..

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 05:33 PM

race 6 P3

9 / 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10 / 2

3, 9 / 1, 3 / 4, 6

1, 2, 5, 7, 8 / 1, 3 / 2

scrimshaw 02-02-2007 05:39 PM

Thank you Mr. Moss.

Rudeboyelvis 02-02-2007 05:41 PM

nice call Scuds...Wish i had a nickel for every dollar Racketter has cost me in his illustrious career ;)

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-02-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
nice call Scuds...Wish i had a nickel for every dollar Racketter has cost me in his illustrious career ;)

the 5 jsssssssssssssssss..knapps golden oats....place show.......he looks bowed up..

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
the 5 jsssssssssssssssss..knapps golden oats....place show.......


LOL...MAYBE BY LEAVING HIM OUT,I PUT HIM IN THE CIRCLE.


Hooves,you hear something about Cerin's family,or something? Something happened,but not sure who it was.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-02-2007 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
LOL...MAYBE BY LEAVING HIM OUT,I PUT HIM IN THE CIRCLE.


Hooves,you hear something about Cerin's family,or something? Something happened,but not sure who it was.

his wife passed in a car wreck in mexico..rip

Rootdog1 02-02-2007 06:04 PM

good luck scuds.....you got some good tickets still going......I like more coverage in the last race but you maybe right with the #2. I like the #1 with the 3,4 but the if the #2 is fit he can take them on the front end.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-02-2007 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
good luck scuds.....you got some good tickets still going......I like more coverage in the last race but you maybe right with the #2. I like the #1 with the 3,4 but the if the #2 is fit he can take them on the front end.

root i like the 10 ALOT ..STRETCHES OUT...IMO

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 06:07 PM

Doubles 4,7/4,6

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-02-2007 06:11 PM

that was the finest 7f ever..lol

Bogey 02-02-2007 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
We argued about this a while back on here (not you and I but a whole group), he is a bet against the rest of his life, he ran that huge back at Keeneland that is he DONE, and will ALWAYS be bet because of that effort.

Scav, I cant agree with you more about SM. The Blue Grass was a complete joke and the number he earned for it was even worse. I totally kept him out of all my tickets come derby day. The public will always overbet him because of that effort on the conveyor belt.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 06:37 PM

I got everything covered here.Be o.k. if 2,4,or 6 don't run.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-02-2007 06:42 PM

5??

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
5??

Yea,oh well.Broke even.Only way in hell I put a penny on that 5 was coverbetting like this.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 06:47 PM

Atleast it paid $13.20....better than $12.00......Needed every bit to get even.Bastard A.C.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-02-2007 06:48 PM

good on ya scuds youve been taken the pot more often than not..:D

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
good on ya scuds youve been taken the pot more often than not..:D

POTTS KILLED My pick 4 by taking it to my 2 horse.Then Avila kills my pick 3 on the 4 horse by waking up a horse that has tired in every other 2 turn race he has ever been in.A TOUGH GAME.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2007 07:14 PM

HOOVES,now comes the hard part.Turning the page after you had a chance to make decent money,but only break even.So difficult to get the attitude back.That is the hardest part of this game...Staying positive when faced with juicers n' such.Hell,even that really slow North American beat this horse.


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