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The Donn This Saturday
Chatain seems to have drawn very well and is getting 9 pounds from invasor i hope they run him saturday because i think he has a huge shot to win this race
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OK, Hesanoldsalt is entered in this race. Seems like his last workout was good. I like him in this spot.
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9th (5:23)
Donn H. (G1) 1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000 Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med. 1 Invasor (ARG) Jara F 123 L 2 Halos Sailing Sain Bravo J 112 L 3 A. P. Arrow Desormeaux K J 112 L 4 Chatain Velasquez C 114 L 5 Tap Dancing Mauk Nunez E O 112 L 6 Hesanoldsalt Bejarano R 114 L 7 Magna Graduate Velazquez J R 118 L 8 Barcola Castellano J J 110 L 9 Strong Contender Prado E S 117 L |
I like Magna Graduate.
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Yet another example of why Handicaps are absurd in this country.
Invasor is giving five pounds to Magna Graduate and six to Strong Contendor. |
Let me take a shot at a ML...
1 Invasor (ARG) Jara F 123 L 3/5 2 Halos Sailing Sain Bravo J 112 L 30/1 3 A. P. Arrow Desormeaux K J 112 L 12/1 4 Chatain Velasquez C 114 L 8/1 5 Tap Dancing Mauk Nunez E O 112 L 50/1 6 Hesanoldsalt Bejarano R 114 L 20/1 7 Magna Graduate Velazquez J R 118 L 9/2 8 Barcola Castellano J J 110 L 40/1 9 Strong Contender Prado E S 117 L 7/2 |
I agree.
And it looks like the post draw offset whatever little edge those two might have been given from Invasor on the weights. |
On second thought, I like A. P. Arrow here too. I need to look at this stuff when I get home. I wish I was going to be down there this weekend.
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Confusion: are you saying Invasor should be carrying more weight or less? I'd say if it's truly a "handicap," he should be carrying considerably more than the others entered. I'd like Magna Graduate if he hadn't ran so terribly last time I saw him on Breeders Cup day.
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Boggie Boggs & Longley in the same race on this card too, yeah!
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Invasor should be carrying more than 123lbs and the spread of weights should be greater than they are
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Magna Graduate is the biggest pitch in history. His phony win at Aqueduct was as bias aided as a race can be. |
Confusion: are you saying Invasor should be carrying more weight or less? I'd say if it's truly a "handicap," he should be carrying considerably more than the others entered. I'd like Magna Graduate if he hadn't ran so terribly last time I saw him on Breeders Cup day.
I didnt get this either. I thought 5-6 was pretty fair. Its a prep anyways, and you know they wont be trying very hard. Good bet against in my opinion. Magna Grad looked pretty darn good last time I saw him run. Granted he didnt beat much that day and there may have been a speed bias, but he looked like a new horse. I mean really good. |
AP Arrow looks like a strong second to Invasor in this one.
Invasor gets the #1 hole will blow this field away |
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AP Arrow? He stinks. He's never run a good race in his life.
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Dont be a hater. Hes a fine piece of horse flesh.
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I'll take my chances. :p Lori, I can't make it down, unfortunately... I have my son this weekend. Last weekend was his Dad's weekend to have him, so it worked out. |
A few nice races down there on Sat.
A 5 horse sprint race with 5 pretty decent horses in it Holy Bull gets Scat daddy Sam P Nobiz Drums of Thunder Bold Start Forefathers in the Swale |
OK, but when my 20-1 shot comes in don't say I didn't tell you so....
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Post some pics then, will you? I could use some entertainment at work. |
If this were the old days, Invasor would be carrying 130.
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perhaps i am missing something, but why in hell would anyone in their right mind bet a dime on any horse in this race not named invasor?
these other horses don't stand much of a chance in my opinion. will invasor be at his best? who cares? his worst race in this country is better than any race run by any of the other horses in this field. betting against invasor in this race would be crazy. ap arrow? magna graduate? wtf? |
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Because we KNOW he is going have such LOW odds that is it really worth picking him to win? Nah, we want to go where the money is. :) |
Hes coming off a layoff and its a prep for a race that has significance (Dubai World Cup).
They laughed at Mccans Mojave too. |
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he should win easy. but i wouldn't bet him. why walk to collect .05 on the dollar? not worth setting an alarm clock for that!
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betting invasor in this race is worth it for the same reason that picking up free money off the ground is worth it. |
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Sometimes it is not worth bending over to pick up a penny off the ground. :p |
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its a nice card, but it could have been alot better with ec in the turf race and pt in the donn. i still like chatain
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That is true if Matthew Macfadyen was standing behind me I may do the bend/snap to pick up that penny. :eek: |
so let's say invasor is 2/5 or even 1/5 and some horse like AP Arrow is 15/1. ap arrow is still not a good bet. this horse has never won a graded stakes race. are the odds really only 15/1 that he will win the race. NO!!!!! it would take an act of god for him to win.
i'm all for finding a good horse at a price....but there are times (like this) when the entire field is so overmatched by one horse that it doesn't even make sense to look for value. there isn't any. |
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