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randallscott35 01-08-2007 07:25 PM

Patriots Vs. Chargers
 
Who you got? Without a doubt the most interesting game this weekend. I think New England wins outright. Rookie QB on SD and a coach who chokes in every playoff game against the best quarterback of all-time and the best coach of all-time.

Coach Pants 01-08-2007 07:43 PM

Chargers by at least two td's

Danzig 01-08-2007 07:53 PM

game of the week. two teams that truly want it, and play like they want it. unlike the hapless nfc--other than the saints that is....

i'd like to see san diego in--ironic that they continue on, best record in the afc, and eli felt he was too good for the likes o' them!

but brady finds new heights in the post-season. and those who say schottenheimer chokes in postseason are entirely correct.

ninetoone 01-08-2007 07:57 PM

Chargers by a FG

SniperSB23 01-08-2007 08:01 PM

San Diego 31-14

randallscott35 01-08-2007 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Chargers by at least two td's


At least. LOL

Scav 01-08-2007 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
At least. LOL

I want the Chargers to win this game because I think they would end up being 7-8 pt favs over the Bears in the Super Bowl, but I would LOVE to get a piece of New England again, and I am sure many Bears would also

Coach Pants 01-08-2007 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
At least. LOL

Yeah mark it down. No way the Patriots score more than 17 against the Chargers.

randallscott35 01-08-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Yeah mark it down. No way the Patriots score more than 17 against the Chargers.

I am marking it down.

GPK 01-08-2007 08:55 PM

I will be rooting for SD to win it all....strictly for the reason being that I would like to see LT win a Super Bowl. If you can't like that guy...who can you like?

randallscott35 01-08-2007 08:57 PM

I like Tom Brady too. But yes, LT deserves a ring. Not this year though.

Suffolk Shippers 01-08-2007 09:30 PM

-Patriots excel at shutting down what a team does best and makes that team beat them some other way. That being said, Pats will NOT shutdown LT, it's impossible. But they will slow him down. He will not be the game changer. That leaves the game in Rivers' hands. Belichick will be salivating. Rookie QB in the playoffs. Advantage NE

-SD's defense is stout. Pats will be hard pressed to make hay. However, SD and NE play the same 3-4 with speed rushers. So did the now departed NY Jets. Pats will throw a few wrinkles, but Brady will make his plays.

-Sidelines. Belichick vs Schottenheimer. Like asking if you want a blow job or a kick in the balls. The choice is obvious.

New England 26, San Diego 20

randallscott35 01-08-2007 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
-Patriots excel at shutting down what a team does best and makes that team beat them some other way. That being said, Pats will NOT shutdown LT, it's impossible. But they will slow him down. He will not be the game changer. That leaves the game in Rivers' hands. Belichick will be salivating. Rookie QB in the playoffs. Advantage NE

-SD's defense is stout. Pats will be hard pressed to make hay. However, SD and NE play the same 3-4 with speed rushers. So did the now departed NY Jets. Pats will throw a few wrinkles, but Brady will make his plays.

-Sidelines. Belichick vs Schottenheimer. Like asking if you want a blow job or a kick in the balls. The choice is obvious.

New England 26, San Diego 20

Laugh my ass off. You could've said burger or porterhouse but your choices were good too. Ha ha

onebadbeast 01-08-2007 10:41 PM

Chokin Chargers
 
I Lived In San Diego For 39 Years.......enuf Said Chargers Choke Every Year!

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-08-2007 10:43 PM

The PATS are the only winner from the wild card games that has a chance this weekend.

hailrazer 01-08-2007 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Chargers by at least two td's


Double P has spoken. Heed the gospel and wager accordingly!!!

Bendaredonedat 01-08-2007 11:30 PM

Chargers

Samarta 01-09-2007 07:44 PM

Brady picks em apart and the Pats win surprisingly easy. But I have a question....would that be considered the BJ or the kick?

horseofcourse 01-09-2007 09:40 PM

Everyone already knows Otto Graham was the best quarterback to ever play the game not Brady!! I like the Chargers despite the history of Schottenheimer in the playoffs. This is his monkey off his back year ala Steve Young.

2 Dollar Bill 01-10-2007 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
The PATS are the only winner from the wild card games that has a chance this weekend.

The Beagles have no chance ?...From what I hear there may be about 20% of the super dome wearing green & white !

2 Dollar Bill 01-10-2007 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
San Diego 31-14

Be careful....... Marty ball against Brady ball ? Didnt the Jets win a playoff game in SD a few years ago ?

SniperSB23 01-10-2007 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill
Be careful....... Marty ball against Brady ball ? Didnt the Jets win a playoff game in SD a few years ago ?

I do think the Chargers will be outcoached but not enough for it to matter. Belichick is almost better than he's given credit for since so much credit goes to Brady but Schottenheimer is nowhere near as bad of a coach as he is made out to be. The only concern is Rivers in his first playoff game but there is no better way to go into your first playoff game than with LT at running back. The Pats are overrated this year and the Chargers are a heck of a team. San Diego will roll.

randallscott35 01-10-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I do think the Chargers will be outcoached but not enough for it to matter. Belichick is almost better than he's given credit for since so much credit goes to Brady but Schottenheimer is nowhere near as bad of a coach as he is made out to be. The only concern is Rivers in his first playoff game but there is no better way to go into your first playoff game than with LT at running back. The Pats are overrated this year and the Chargers are a heck of a team. San Diego will roll.

I need some of this "roll" action.

EpBurns 01-10-2007 09:53 AM

Chargers vs Pats, who cares neither of them can beat the next Super Bowl Champs THE BALTIMORE RAVENS

SniperSB23 01-10-2007 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
I need some of this "roll" action.

I don't particularly like their chances in a close game so I think if they win it will be by a decent margin. The spread is just plain silly though. As much as I think San Diego will roll in this game it should be a Pickem not a 5 point spread. If you are betting the game play New England on the moneyline since you can probably get +200 or so on them.

post2post 01-10-2007 09:59 AM

the AFC games are going to be awesome to watch.....I have to go Chargers/Ravens...the bye week in this format is HUGE. and the Pats have to travel to the West Coast which makes it that much tougher for them.

2 Dollar Bill 01-10-2007 04:54 PM

Not that I bet Pro Football...( tooo tough)... But remember One thing
when the public loves one team.... (chargers )... the Smart $ goes the other way.......Should be a good game and I wonder if the play would be the
Over ??

kenny p 01-10-2007 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by post2post
the AFC games are going to be awesome to watch.....I have to go Chargers/Ravens...the bye week in this format is HUGE. and the Pats have to travel to the West Coast which makes it that much tougher for them.

I never bet against Brady. IMO this is a good game to pass on. In fact I think ill pass on the whole weekend and stick to the Big A. Good Luck.

randallscott35 01-10-2007 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny p
I never bet against Brady. IMO this is a good game to pass on. In fact I think ill pass on the whole weekend and stick to the Big A. Good Luck.

Don't pass. Take those points. Juicy.

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-10-2007 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill
The Beagles have no chance ?...From what I hear there may be about 20% of the super dome wearing green & white !

If the Dolts (sorry, 2 mins to post) show the same defense as last week...NO

Gander 01-10-2007 06:50 PM

I see this game ending in 1 of 2 ways...

Patriots win a close one decided by the last drive (probably a field goal), maybe even in OT.

Chargers come out smoking and win by 3 touchdowns.

No in betweens for me and I dont see the Chargers winning if the game says close. They just cant pull it out against Tom Brady and Bellichick if goes down to the wire.

SniperSB23 01-10-2007 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
I see this game ending in 1 of 2 ways...

Patriots win a close one decided by the last drive (probably a field goal), maybe even in OT.

Chargers come out smoking and win by 3 touchdowns.

No in betweens for me and I dont see the Chargers winning if the game says close. They just cant pull it out against Tom Brady and Bellichick if goes down to the wire.

That's exactly why I took the +190 on the Pats. I don't see much chance the Pats lose by less than 5 so there is no point in taking the points. The only reason to bet the spread is if you think the Pats are as likely to lose by less than 5 as they are to win.

randallscott35 01-12-2007 05:53 PM

The buyback on the Pats has begun. 4.5 to 4 at gametime. The last of the +200ML can be had now.

Coach Pants 01-14-2007 07:20 PM

I was wrong. I never imagined a team could choke that bad. Pats are the best ever. Brady is great. Bellichick best ever. Blah blah blah.

randallscott35 01-14-2007 07:41 PM

Like free money every single time.

pgardn 01-14-2007 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Like free money every single time.

Oh Randall good God if you call that free money... You live dangerously my friend that was a no bet. The Chargers could have easily blown them off the field.

Thats like the winner of a horse race getting DQed after proving to be much the best and you had the place horse to win. Thats called luck.

And you got to be able to identify that. I think Brady is an absolutely clutch QB, but dropped interceptions and pitiful turnovers made that game. San Diego was the better team but lost the game. And this is pro football.

randallscott35 01-14-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Oh Randall good God if you call that free money... You live dangerously my friend that was a no bet. The Chargers could have easily blown them off the field.

Thats like the winner of a horse race getting DQed after proving to be much the best and you had the place horse to win. Thats called luck.

And you got to be able to identify that. I think Brady is an absolutely clutch QB, but dropped interceptions and pitiful turnovers made that game. San Diego was the better team but lost the game. And this is pro football.

Yes the Tuck game was luck. The game as 14 point dogs to the Rams luck, the Colts game luck, the 2 road Pitt games luck. They are just a lucky team. Who cares how they win, they win? At +200 they are free money. They would've covered the game at +5.5 whether they won or not. They are 3 point dogs in Indy right now. And they will be lucky there as well no doubt.


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