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TheSpyder 12-20-2006 06:05 AM

Were you a winner or loser this year?
 
Sometimes it's a little intimidating reading from all of you. As a 30 year horse player I've only known the game from the grandstands. After reading from many of you it sounds like you have a better, more complete view of the game and many times it seems that a lot of you do well.

So, reality check.

With the year about over, will you show a profit for the year?

Since the internet site I use keeps track of every penny, I can say with out a doubt that I lost for the year....about 17% of my overall wagering outlay.

Be honest now, how did you do for the year?

Spyder from SC

Hickory Hill Hoff 12-20-2006 06:26 AM

Did well in the first rounds of the Triple Crown races, had the best 4th of July day wagering ever.
Belmont Summer/Fall meet was the best in recent years.
Saratoga meet was as equal as 2005...not really that good. Aqueduct started slow, but has picked up on the "Inner-track". Looking forward to the Santa Anita meet and hopefully the Gulfstream "daily nine" will be worth playing.
Never shown interest in Fairgrounds or Tampa for some reason.

paisjpq 12-20-2006 06:41 AM

I am certain I was a loser...I don't really wish to know the actual dollar amount or percentage.

Bernardini 12-20-2006 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Sometimes it's a little intimidating reading from all of you. As a 30 year horse player I've only known the game from the grandstands. After reading from many of you it sounds like you have a better, more complete view of the game and many times it seems that a lot of you do well.

So, reality check.

With the year about over, will you show a profit for the year?

Since the internet site I use keeps track of every penny, I can say with out a doubt that I lost for the year....about 17% of my overall wagering outlay.

Be honest now, how did you do for the year?

Spyder from SC

I didnt keep track of dollar amount, but this year I spent less than the years past. Having said that, Bernardini made some money for me and so did Jazil...other than that nothing stands out. Happy Holidays !!!

Thunder Gulch 12-20-2006 07:57 AM

When you throw in my travel costs and beer, I'm way behind.:)

eurobounce 12-20-2006 08:04 AM

I dont gamble for a living. I actually have a gambling entertainment budget. I didn't go through the budget as I have money left over in the "account." But it is very safe to assume that I lost financially, but won the "entertainment" value.

avance2000 12-20-2006 08:28 AM

i keep a detailed log of every bet i make and this year i finished up exactly $82. what that means is i was on pace for my worst year ever (down close to $1000) until invasor bailed me out in a BIG way in the classic.
the $82 was not as good as last year, when i finished the year up $285, but it was certainly better than my horrible 2004 when i finished down $269.
so over the last 3 years combined i have made a total of $98. not great.....but i'll take it.

bellsbendboy 12-20-2006 08:34 AM

I would estimate I have bet around $1800 in 2006 and have earned about $32,000. I have had eleven signers so far in 2006. I bet 90 percent pick 4's all with serious homework. BBB

blackthroatedwind 12-20-2006 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
I would estimate I have bet around $1800 in 2006 and have earned about $32,000. I have had eleven signers so far in 2006. I bet 90 percent pick 4's all with serious homework. BBB


Wait a second....I am sure I am reading this wrong....you aren't suggesting your entire handle for the year was $1800 ( or roughly $50 a day ) and that with that handle you also made $32K?

The Bid 12-20-2006 08:45 AM

Im up about 80 thousand dollars while playing through probably 150. I could be up a lot of money but I get very stupid at Dover Downs. If I took Dover out of the loop I would probably be up 100.

slotdirt 12-20-2006 08:53 AM

Definitely a loser, though I mostly tread water. BC was a wash, Derby killed me.

Gander 12-20-2006 08:56 AM

I was a big loser but I am looking forward to winning in 2007.
Less plays, smarter plays.

Thoroughbred Fan 12-20-2006 08:59 AM

I had about 25% winning days, 25% losing days, and broke even about 50% of the time......And somehow I am still down a little bit. I did have fun and see some good races this year, although I think it gets harder and harder to be a fan of the game with some of the small fields, suspect rides, early retirements, and trainer suspensions. I don't redboard and I don't lie. I am down a bit.

dellinger63 12-20-2006 09:04 AM

Without a doubt I had a huge year at the track certainly not money-wise but entertainment wise.

My two most fun w/e's of the year were Whitney weekend at Saratoga and BC w/e at Churchill. In between we visited Belmont and had Arlington and Million day and all that park has to offer as home base. Got to meet and spend some time with new friends and old ones as well and as one of the new ones would say, 'this year was grand!!'

Looking to make next year even better, starting out with a trip to Gulstream the w/e of 1/27.

dellinger63 12-20-2006 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
I would estimate I have bet around $1800 in 2006 and have earned about $32,000. I have had eleven signers so far in 2006. I bet 90 percent pick 4's all with serious homework. BBB

I'm choking.......911

blackthroatedwind 12-20-2006 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
I'm choking.......911


It must be a misprint. Even internet liars aren't THAT ridiculous.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-20-2006 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Wait a second....I am sure I am reading this wrong....you aren't suggesting your entire handle for the year was $1800 ( or roughly $50 a day ) and that with that handle you also made $32K?

drf 4.00
spending many hours on 7 diff message boards..int connection 39.95 month
red pens 2.95
computer 750.00


believing your own bull sh*t....priceless:D

blackthroatedwind 12-20-2006 09:33 AM

Well, like I said it has to be a misprint, otherwise that poster desperately needs to enroll in an internet lying course.

Rule 1...at least include a shred of possibility.

philcski 12-20-2006 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
drf 4.00
spending many hours on 7 diff message boards..int connection 39.95 month
red pens 2.95
computer 750.00


believing your own bull sh*t....priceless:D

Hahaha... priceless.

I will finish the year in the black, however 2006 was the worst Saratoga meet I've ever had if you remove Woodward day from the equation.

Most of the profits came on 4 or 5 weekends with a lot of small to medium losses in between.

eurobounce 12-20-2006 09:35 AM

Well maybe the poster meant that they $1800 was his own money. Maybe the rest of the wagers came from winnings from that initial $1800 investment. Does that make sense?

Sightseek 12-20-2006 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
Hahaha... priceless.

I will finish the year in the black, however 2006 was the worst Saratoga meet I've ever had if you remove Woodward day from the equation.

Most of the profits came on 4 or 5 weekends with a lot of small to medium losses in between.

That weekend rocked!

eurobounce 12-20-2006 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
drf 4.00
spending many hours on 7 diff message boards..int connection 39.95 month
red pens 2.95
computer 750.00


believing your own bull sh*t....priceless:D

Good one right there. But I buy green and purple pens. Red pens give me a bad vibe.

Coach Pants 12-20-2006 09:37 AM

I'm a winner because my mom tells me so.

Seriously though, I'm up for the year. I hit a few pick 4's and had a great Derby day, a great time at the BC. The only track that put a beating on me was Del Mar.

philcski 12-20-2006 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
That weekend rocked!

Well, other than having that bum Appealing Zophie cost me a $60,000 pick 6 :mad:
We had fun though! :)

Cajungator26 12-20-2006 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq
I am certain I was a loser...I don't really wish to know the actual dollar amount or percentage.

Ditto. LOL :o

Sightseek 12-20-2006 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
Well, other than having that bum Appealing Zophie cost me a $60,000 pick 6 :mad:
We had fun though! :)

That was probably my best wagering weekend with both Brushed Prince at 71-1, and Miner's Lamp at like 20-1, getting up for second and the Kong horse owned by Paranack winning at like 18-1.

Hopefully this year I can learn how to better structure my bets though. :(

bellsbendboy 12-20-2006 09:51 AM

BTW: My numbers are pretty accurate, but after some calculations I will move the amount bet for 2006, to $2000. Although the naysayers will line up, ALL my pick 4 bets, with analysis are posted somewhere.

The gray area in the amount bet arises when I have blown the first leg and really like a nice priced horse in a later leg. I went as far back as I could at www.nola.com/forums/startinggate and post # 6974 is a good example.

My pick 4 was blown in leg one, but I loved a horse in a later leg who romped at some $47, with a big triple to boot. That particular page included several other scores. Good cappin. BBB

philcski 12-20-2006 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
I would estimate I have bet around $1800 in 2006 and have earned about $32,000. I have had eleven signers so far in 2006. I bet 90 percent pick 4's all with serious homework. BBB

I'd love to believe you... but i can't.
I also want to believe Elvis is still alive... but i can't.

SniperSB23 12-20-2006 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
Hahaha... priceless.

I will finish the year in the black, however 2006 was the worst Saratoga meet I've ever had if you remove Woodward day from the equation.

Most of the profits came on 4 or 5 weekends with a lot of small to medium losses in between.

Yeah, that Woodward saved the meet for me. Without that exacta I'd have been down on the meet. With it I was within like $10 of even at the track and up $60 on the internet for the meet which I was more than happy with. The rest of the year I'd guess I was down $200 - $300 although if you go back to the Malibu last year that would put me back to even. I probably bet in the vicinity of $3,000 - $4,000 on the year and at worst lost $300 which I can live with.

sham 12-20-2006 10:35 AM

I pushed about $5000 through the windows for a wagering loss of $29. This comes out to negative $300-$400 when I include the expenses of internet wagering accounts and DRF's. I had a lot of fun for something like $30 per month. That's a winning season for me.

Scav 12-20-2006 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Wait a second....I am sure I am reading this wrong....you aren't suggesting your entire handle for the year was $1800 ( or roughly $50 a day ) and that with that handle you also made $32K?

Where is your math, it is almost $5 per day (1800/365)

Yes, I am internet anal math guy

Scav 12-20-2006 10:38 AM

Oh, and for the record, it was SMOKE CITY for me this year

estreetposse 12-20-2006 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
When you throw in my travel costs and beer, I'm way behind.:)


come on man really, it's a $5 tank of gas to get to southland and $2.50 for a bucket of warm PBR........ travel is the least of your expenses.

Now, if you stop betting $10 tri wheel's with 90% of the field then you could cut out some "Expenses"

$1 exacta box: All over All

as for me, YOUBET and their plethora of race tracks have given me the business this year.

New year's resolution: More PK 3's 4's 6's, less tri-keys

-bt-

Thunder Gulch 12-20-2006 11:08 AM

I only use the all button on greyhounds. :D

brianwspencer 12-20-2006 11:20 AM

I haven't kept as good of records as I did the last few years -- but I'd say that in general I'm probably somewhere between even and down $500. I've had a couple of monsterly bad days, but a couple of great days.

The few that bailed me out?
1. Invasor in the BCC, and Street Sense in the Juvenile
2. Vacare in the QEII
3. Sicdup at Keenelend and on the QEII undercard
4. Sidcup at Turfway just this past weekend (HUGE day/year saver at 12-1!)

Bendaredonedat 12-20-2006 11:30 AM

Im Only Gonna Say It Once!!! Loser

Antitrust32 12-20-2006 11:42 AM

I broke even or ended up a little over. If you include poker... then I won a good amount considering what I bet. 6 tourney's at casino's total and 5 final tables including two 1'st a 3rd, 5th and most recently 7th. Bet maybe 500 and returned about 3,000 so I am up about 2500.

Horses I probably bet around 500 and returned 500-600 in that range.

Not too bad in the gambling department this year!

cal828 12-20-2006 12:10 PM

Probably lose somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 to 1000 dollars annually,
but that's ok. Have no other vices. Don't drink or smoke. Too old to do the
hibbity dibbity. If I didn't bet on horses, somebody would try to make a religion out of me.

blackthroatedwind 12-20-2006 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Where is your math, it is almost $5 per day (1800/365)

Yes, I am internet anal math guy


Thanks.

Wow, he's an even more ridiculous liar than I thought. Pretty sad.

CapperZeke 12-20-2006 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Thanks.

Wow, he's an even more ridiculous liar than I thought. Pretty sad.

I only bet Pick-3's on Thursday's and won about 145K. I also married a super model, had my penis reduced, and scored 2 touchdowns in the Super Bowl. Not a bad year overall.


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