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Hollywood's First Cushion Track Meet
The first cushion track meeting at Hollywood produced larger fields, larger purses and an increase in handle. Hollywood experienced at 19% increase in wagering. The avg field size was up 13% which equates to 8.5 starters per race. This increase reversed a 7 year per race starter decline. There are more numbers in the article in bloodhorse.com; below is the link to the story.
So far every meet with a synthetic surface has produced increase handle and increase starters per race. I, for one, could not grasp handicapping Hollywood but I did get some pretty good notes and I think I will be wagering Hollywood in the summer. I think we have some good "testing" tracks for the synthetic surfaces. Lets see how these tracks do in the next 2-4 years and then we can decide if a synthetic surface is a good idea or not. |
In 2-4 years, it may not matter if it is a good idea or not, as it seems most will have them by then.
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Thanks for the info. How much for 10 lbs of Poly?
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Was waiting for this, tee hee.
SMART people don't just recite stats, smart people examine the circumstances!! Umm, Euro, you wanna tell me what Hollywood's handle crashed and burned so badly last year at the corresponding meet? You wanna tell me why Hollywood's field size got clobbered last year? Or don't you pay attention to "minor details" like that? |
I could care less about stats, in my opinion the racing at Hollywood has been ruined. I use to like this meet and now I cant even watch a race unless its on turf. Thank god Santa Anita is only a few days away and that is still real dirt, at least for now.
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YOu think he realizes that grass racing produces the greatest number of full fields(wrecked the field sizes last year without it) and large percentage of handle? Actually I was expecting a 25% increase at least, and I'm not kidding. I would consider it a disappointment. But there I go using facts again, I'm such a disappointment. |
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/articleind...e.asp?id=30841
gee, i wonder why the handle and field size were up? |
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http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=30884
Last year they cut racing days to 27 from 31 and only averaged 8 races per day. That and no grass races and a total cancellation of the turf festival. Lets call a spade a spade, the TURF FESTIVAL races alone should have bumped the handle up huge. Factor in the return of grass races, and it should have bumped it up tremendously. Spin doctors can work this anyway they want to. It was NOT a success in terms of looking at all the relevant factors. |
So Oracle, what is your reasoning as to why there has been a 7 year decline in starters at Hollywood?
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And lets face it, racetrack handle was up at the fair circuits huge this past year, and has been a trend all year. 19% bump off the worst meet in history circumstance wise is not even what I expected. I've been waiting for this data, and was expecting you to be the first to post about it, but I was expecting a 25-30% bump. The 19% shocked me as very low. Increased number of dates and average races per day, the return of grass racing, and a huge trend with upwward handle this year. Trust me, it can be spun anyway you want, But I'm sure they expected a greater increase. |
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The handle should have been up way more than that with the stakes races of the turf festival back in play, more racing dates!!!!! and many more races!!! and grass racing back!!! Do you do deny this? |
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Can I get a discount on the 10lb order?
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Just wanna point out what a dismal failure this past meet was, I would say it was borderline disastrous.
Fact 36 racing days this past year, as compared to 27 days last year(thats 33% more racing days) AN increased number of races averaged on those days due to last year being reduced to 8 a day average because of no turf course. Turf racing returned accounting for a big bump in field size as realtewd to last year and a HUGE bump in handle with the big races of the Turf Festival being back. Bottom line is this, anyone who attempts to spin a 19% increase in handle when you had a 33% increase in racing days and a return of grass racing and the turf festival is pretty funny. It was tragic. |
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You have 36 racing days as opposed to 27(33% more races run), you have a boost in the avg number of races per day(about 38% more races run), you had the return of grass racing(big boost for handle and field size) and the return of heavily bet featured graded stakes race in the turf festival that wer not run last year. Then Euro cites incresased average field size as well, this is significant because increased field sizes usually mena increased handle. Now you factor all that in an they only went up 19%. MY god, the increased race dates and races should bump you 35% alone. The return of grass racing and stakes races should bump you at least another 8-10%. So just on increased number of dates and racing and return of grass you would have to expect in the neighborhood of 44% increase in handle. Factor in the trend of tracks having increased handle this year, and its even higher. 19%? Are you kidding me. This was a complete disaster, and nothing short of tragic. Near as I can tell, this may be the biggest disaster I ever saw, and really proves that people did not wanna bet cushion track. I suppose I should have seen this coming, as I always thought once the novelty wore off, that disgruntled cappers would avoid it like the plague. But this is shocking, and I'm not exaggerating. YOu can run these numbers yourself, its all out there in plain sight, no secrets. If I was a Hollywood Park management type, I'd have cold sweats right now. Does anyone here see this any other way? And if so what am I missing or not taking into account in my analysis of the situation? |
Whether this is good or not, a big part of the reason for the bump in field size is the success turf horses had running on the fake stuff. Those type horses never ran on dirt, but were more than happy to run on the new surface where the had at worst a fair shot, and probably an edge.
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I find it very annoying when Vic Stoffer says "And so and so is charging down the center of the cushion track".
Why does he have to remind everybody that polycrap (cushion) has been installed. Its also very weird to look up at the track condition and see: Turf: Firm Track: Cushion Why not just call it fast? |
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And Euro, Pegram backed out of the deal a few months ago because they couldn't get an answer from Bay Meadows. I bet the phones will be ringing now. |
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Look, I made your argument look stupid once again, perhaps you could tell me how that "great" 19% bump looks in light of the data I just posted. I'm still waiting for the spin on it. But even for a supporter like you, this one is gonna be real tough to spin in anything close to a postive manner. Give it a shot though. |
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I bet the phones are ringing away. |
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FACT: The average daily handle was up 16% over last year. Turf racing or not, that's significant. Some people don't like wagering turf racing (like me), ever thought about that? |
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Get real will you? Better check those stats again. |
To be fair, maybe it's wrong to compare the two meets.
Instead, perhaps someone could compare field size this year vs last year for a single class of race. Let's use the basic 2-turn N1X Allowance and see what we come up with. Wait, I forgot. They don't run those races in SoCal anymore. Never mind. |
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