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Rupert Pupkin 12-14-2006 01:40 AM

No More TVG For Me
 
I had Adelphia Digital Cable for a long time but they were recently bought by Time Warner Cable. Time Warner is still carrying TVG right now for the Adelphia customers, but they say that they don't have a contract with TVG and they will be discontinuing it starting January 9th. I can't believe it. I have called and complained to both TVG and Time Warner. I hope they can make a deal before that date comes. I can't believe that I'm not going to have TVG any more.

Is anyone here on the same boat as me? If you are, please send e-mails and make phone calls to both Time Warner and TVG. Maybe if they get enough complaints they will work out ther differences and make a deal.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-14-2006 05:39 AM

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/getdish/index.shtml

Stop begging them.Dump them.Dish N. is good for sports...F Cable......You will get both TVG AND HRTV. Don't watch Seigel too much though,cuz he will give ya nightmares.They aren't kidding when they say some people have a face for radio.His eyes will scare kids.

2 Dollar Bill 12-14-2006 09:17 AM

I still shake my head everytime I hear a ""cable company cant give you a channel"".. I have had (old name primestar) directv for over 10 years now. Just like the NFL network, how can a cable company NOT give you that... Opps I forgot it comes to $$$$$$$$$.. Its amazing they run a cable to your house, you send a check every month and THEY tell you what you can watch or NOT watch. Or the best is.. ""we dont have a channel for that, and we would have to TAKE off a channel."" If everyone just stopped cable for ONE month, I wonder HOW fast they would change ? These cable owners are making a fortune , and could care less about each homeowner.

Seattleallstar 12-14-2006 09:19 AM

do you at least get HRTV? I used to get it, and along with midwest fox affilates used to carry 2 hours of it. But its all gone.

uscrules 12-14-2006 09:59 AM

do what normal folk do, go to the racetrack. if you cant make it during the week, dont follow and limit your experiences to the weekend. you can live without tvg. take a few deep breaths. everythings going to be okay.

Scav 12-14-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by uscrules
do what normal folk do, go to the racetrack. if you cant make it during the week, dont follow and limit your experiences to the weekend. you can live without tvg. take a few deep breaths. everythings going to be okay.

Guy, Rupert is at the track EVERY DAY already.....

uscrules 12-14-2006 10:14 AM

then why the need to watch on tvg? not understanding? why would you want to watch racing if you are already there? or is rupert a jockey?

Scav 12-14-2006 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by uscrules
then why the need to watch on tvg? not understanding? why would you want to watch racing if you are already there? or is rupert a jockey?

Because there are more then California tracks out there, and TVG brings it all to you in one swoop.

Pointg5 12-14-2006 10:31 AM

Thanks for the link Scuds, I think I am going to change, it looks like it might be a little cheaper than Digital Cable, plus I get TVG, HRTV, NFL Network, and ESPNU. I will have to check with TW to see what it will do to my internet bill, but I will likely change.

Scav 12-14-2006 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Thanks for the link Scuds, I think I am going to change, it looks like it might be a little cheaper than Digital Cable, plus I get TVG, HRTV, NFL Network, and ESPNU. I will have to check with TW to see what it will do to my internet bill, but I will likely change.

Make sure you have a south viewing point as the dish needs to be pointed that way....It is also negative when you get weather like you are accustom to in the spring/winter because the picture will 'square' up......

slotdirt 12-14-2006 10:39 AM

I moved and don't have a clear view of the southern sky anymore. Thusly, no more TVG. At least there's always Rosecroft.

Pointg5 12-14-2006 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Make sure you have a south viewing point as the dish needs to be pointed that way....It is also negative when you get weather like you are accustom to in the spring/winter because the picture will 'square' up......

That could be a deal breaker, I am not putting one of those things on the front of my house, I guess I'll have to let them take a look and see if it can go around back...

31lengths 12-14-2006 10:47 AM

I've been hounding Brighthouse for a year now. They are great for everything else. But absolutely NO horse racing. It may be time to switch to the dish.

I know Verizon fiber optic carries both TVG and RHTV but it's not available in my area yet.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 12-14-2006 11:44 AM

i actually got ridda the dish a few months back and switched to comcast since they hada deal of 99.99 per month for the cable, cable internet and unlimited long distance phone service, that and the fact i was tired of my dish going out every single time the weather got a little bad. i had tvg and hrtv on the dish and now only have tvg and had to pay a little extra for it, hrtv isnt offered by comcast but fukk dat channel and fukk stronach anyways

Rupert Pupkin 12-14-2006 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Guy, Rupert is at the track EVERY DAY already.....

I'm actually not out there nearly that often. I pretty much only go if we have a horse running. Once in a great while, I go out in the morning to watch our horses train.

But that's irrelevant any way. I'm in the business and I obviously need to be able to watch the races all over the country. The only way I come up with horses to buy privately is from scouting that I do by watching races on television. Over 90% of the horse that we've tried to buyhave been horses that I spotted back East on TVG.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 12-14-2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I'm actually not out there nearly that often. I pretty much only go if we have a horse running. Once in a great while, I go out in the morning to watch our horses train.

But that's irrelevant any way. I'm in the business and I obviously need to be able to watch the races all over the country. The only way I come up with horses to buy privately is from scouting that I do by watching races on television. Over 90% of the horse that we've tried to buyhave been horses that I spotted back East on TVG.


nothing better than being out there and watching training every morning especially at the most beautiful track in the world.....arlington! at fairmount the few times i was down there this year i swear every morning atleast 6 or 7 times down there you hear loose horse on the backstretch lol

Rupert Pupkin 12-14-2006 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/getdish/index.shtml

Stop begging them.Dump them.Dish N. is good for sports...F Cable......You will get both TVG AND HRTV. Don't watch Seigel too much though,cuz he will give ya nightmares.They aren't kidding when they say some people have a face for radio.His eyes will scare kids.

It would be very hard for me to get a dish where I live. I live in a high-rise condominium and I face North. They would have to put the dish on top of the building. The board of directors would have to approve it. It would be a huge deal. I know that a group of homeowners here had considered it just recently, but there were so many issues that they didn't end up doing it. I think the cost was going to be very high too. The wiring is supposedly very complex.

I haven't totally ruled it out. I need to look into it further but it sounds like it would be a huge hassle and may even cost several thousand dollars.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 12-14-2006 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
It would be very hard for me to get a dish where I live. I live in a high-rise condominium and I face North. They would have to put the dish on top of the building. The board of directors would have to approve it. It would be a huge deal. I know that a group of homeowners here had considered it just recently, but there were so many issues that they didn't end up doing it. I think the cost was going to be very high too. The wiring is supposedly very complex.

I haven't totally ruled it out. I need to look into it further but it sounds like it would be a huge hassle and may even cost several thousand dollars.

the retards who installed my dish actually put it on the garage. everytime it snowed i hada climb up the garage and brush the snow off so itd work LOL. they actually keep mailing me tryin to get me to come back....maybe cuz i actually payed my bill on time

Rupert Pupkin 12-14-2006 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/getdish/index.shtml

Stop begging them.Dump them.Dish N. is good for sports...F Cable......You will get both TVG AND HRTV. Don't watch Seigel too much though,cuz he will give ya nightmares.They aren't kidding when they say some people have a face for radio.His eyes will scare kids.

I might be able to get Dish Networks. I just called one of their distributors and told him the situation at my building. He seemed to think we could do it and it wouldn't be all that expensive. He said the initial set-up may not be nearly as expensive as I thought. He said that even worst case scenario he didn't think it would cost more than $1,000 or so.

Bigsmc 12-14-2006 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 31lengths
I've been hounding Brighthouse for a year now. They are great for everything else. But absolutely NO horse racing. It may be time to switch to the dish.

I know Verizon fiber optic carries both TVG and RHTV but it's not available in my area yet.

They(Verizon) put a massive box in my front yard and have been hounding me to switch. Ugly ass thing is an eyesore. Also cut my water line while installing it. "Oops. Sorry. We'll get it fixed as soon as we can" was all I got out of the only one that spoke broken English.

Been with DirecTV for over 10 years and don't plan to switch unless they lose the NFL package. What TVG doesn't cover, I can watch on the internet.

repent 12-14-2006 03:18 PM

I couldnt do without TVG.
HRTV is important during the Spring SA and Gulfstream meets.


I have DISH network b/c the cable companies around here dont carry TVG.
Id have DISH anyway though.
just a much better product.




Repent

timmgirvan 12-14-2006 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Thanks for the link Scuds, I think I am going to change, it looks like it might be a little cheaper than Digital Cable, plus I get TVG, HRTV, NFL Network, and ESPNU. I will have to check with TW to see what it will do to my internet bill, but I will likely change.

P5: TW has upgraded Adelphias' DSL and the office told me that my bill would drop 18 bucks a month...And the new DSL they're coming out with shortly is 2 gig instead of 768megs! But TW's channel lineup is fraught with multiple channels carrying the same thing. I can't get Direct TV,apparently due to the location of my apartment!

SniperSB23 12-14-2006 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I might be able to get Dish Networks. I just called one of their distributors and told him the situation at my building. He seemed to think we could do it and it wouldn't be all that expensive. He said the initial set-up may not be nearly as expensive as I thought. He said that even worst case scenario he didn't think it would cost more than $1,000 or so.

My initial cost was $249 for installation and equipment which included an HD-DVR so will be cheaper if you don't want that. $49 I got back when I activated the dish. I also got $20 off my bill for the first ten months. So essentially it was free installation. Check their website, it is pretty easy to setup on there and they even have a feature where you can chat with a customer service rep if you run into any problems.

timmgirvan 12-14-2006 03:27 PM

Rup: 1000 bucks...that's insane!

Rupert Pupkin 12-14-2006 03:27 PM

I have a question for Repent and Scuds since you both have Dish Networks. It sounds like you guys are very happy with Dish. Are there any negatives?

One of my friends had Direct TV, and some days he would have problems getting good reception for TVG if it was windy outside. Does anything like that happen with Dish? Does it not work well if the weather is bad or anything like that?

Rupert Pupkin 12-14-2006 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Rup: 1000 bucks...that's insane!

He said that would be the worst case scenario. He said it may only cost a few hundred dollars. It would just depend on the set-up at my building. He said it would depend whether they could use some of the cables that are already in the building. If not, they would have to run cables all the way from the roof(it's a 13 story building) to my unit on the 10th floor, and then all the way down to the basement. It might be a pretty big job.

timmgirvan 12-14-2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
He said that would be the worst case scenario. He said it may only cost a few hundred dollars. It would just depend on the set-up at my building. He said it would depend whether they could use some of the cables that are already in the building. If not, they would have to run cables all the way from the roof(it's a 13 story building) to my unit on the 10th floor, and then all the way down to the basement. It might be a pretty big job.

Dude...I guess you gotta pay for yer pleasures!

SniperSB23 12-14-2006 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
He said that would be the worst case scenario. He said it may only cost a few hundred dollars. It would just depend on the set-up at my building. He said it would depend whether they could use some of the cables that are already in the building. If not, they would have to run cables all the way from the roof(it's a 13 story building) to my unit on the 10th floor, and then all the way down to the basement. It might be a pretty big job.

I have no basement and they just ran cables from my roof down to the rooms I have it installed it. I don't know why they would possibly want to run cables down to your basement.

repent 12-14-2006 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I have a question for Repent and Scuds since you both have Dish Networks. It sounds like you guys are very happy with Dish. Are there any negatives?

One of my friends had Direct TV, and some days he would have problems getting good reception for TVG if it was windy outside. Does anything like that happen with Dish? Does it not work well if the weather is bad or anything like that?


yeah the weather thing is what the cable companies always uses to bash dish.

but Im telling you man,
i had directv my first 2 years of college and dish network ever since then (toal of like 7 years now) and I can count on one hand the number of times I lost reception b/c of storms.
the wind never knocks out the signal.

it takes a hell of a storm to knock out the signal, but even then it ususally is back up within 10 minutes.
its only happened a few times.

Dish is awesome.
I have 2 dual recievers which basically means I control 4 different tvs with just 2 recievers and both are dvr recievers.
I have one of the more basic packages, but it still gives you all the espns, all the local channels, all the major entertainment channels, all the educational/documentary channels, and most importantly TVG and HRTV.
My bill is only like $60/month.
its a great value and if I were home more, i would upgrade packages and it still would be relatively inexpensive.



Repent

Rupert Pupkin 12-14-2006 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repent
yeah the weather thing is what the cable companies always uses to bash dish.

but Im telling you man,
i had directv my first 2 years of college and dish network ever since then (toal of like 7 years now) and I can count on one hand the number of times I lost reception b/c of storms.
the wind never knocks out the signal.

it takes a hell of a storm to knock out the signal, but even then it ususally is back up within 10 minutes.
its only happened a few times.

Dish is awesome.
I have 2 dual recievers which basically means I control 4 different tvs with just 2 recievers and both are dvr recievers.
I have one of the more basic packages, but it still gives you all the espns, all the local channels, all the major entertainment channels, all the educational/documentary channels, and most importantly TVG and HRTV.
My bill is only like $60/month.
its a great value and if I were home more, i would upgrade packages and it still would be relatively inexpensive.



Repent

Cool. Thanks for the info!

Rupert Pupkin 12-14-2006 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I have no basement and they just ran cables from my roof down to the rooms I have it installed it. I don't know why they would possibly want to run cables down to your basement.

The head of the homeowner's association told me that all the cable stuff has to go through the basement here for some reason. That's where the main cable box is I guess. But even if the main cable box is down there, I'm not sure why cables for a satellite dish would have to go down there.

SniperSB23 12-14-2006 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
The head of the homeowner's association told me that all the cable stuff has to go through the basement here for some reason. That's where the main cable box is I guess. But even if the main cable box is down there, I'm not sure why cables for a satellite dish would have to go down there.

Pretty annoying policy if they have to go all the way down to your basement to then run it back up through your existing cable lines. I guess I can understand why they wouldn't want new holes drilled.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-14-2006 03:50 PM

dish is the bomb...and i get the worst storms here,,lost signal for 15 min over 3 years,even in the hurricane..

Sightseek 12-14-2006 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
The head of the homeowner's association told me that all the cable stuff has to go through the basement here for some reason. That's where the main cable box is I guess. But even if the main cable box is down there, I'm not sure why cables for a satellite dish would have to go down there.

Do you live in a condo with very strict policies? Some co-ops/condos won't allow Dish because it damages the beauty of the surroundings. (It would be in your manual or Deed)

Rupert Pupkin 12-14-2006 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
Do you live in a condo with very strict policies? Some co-ops/condos won't allow Dish because it damages the beauty of the surroundings. (It would be in your manual or Deed)

Yes, they have very strict policies but the president of the board already told me that they would not have a problem with a dish being put on the roof. They will not allow anyone to put one on their balcony but that was not an issue with me because my balcony faces north, and satellite dishes won't work unless they face south.

timmgirvan 12-14-2006 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repent
yeah the weather thing is what the cable companies always uses to bash dish.

but Im telling you man,
i had directv my first 2 years of college and dish network ever since then (toal of like 7 years now) and I can count on one hand the number of times I lost reception b/c of storms.
the wind never knocks out the signal.

it takes a hell of a storm to knock out the signal, but even then it ususally is back up within 10 minutes.
its only happened a few times.

Dish is awesome.
I have 2 dual recievers which basically means I control 4 different tvs with just 2 recievers and both are dvr recievers.
I have one of the more basic packages, but it still gives you all the espns, all the local channels, all the major entertainment channels, all the educational/documentary channels, and most importantly TVG and HRTV.
My bill is only like $60/month.
its a great value and if I were home more, i would upgrade packages and it still would be relatively inexpensive.



Repent

60 buck a month?? F me! As we speak,I'm paying 145 for DSL,DvR and Digital cable with no Special added channels. I goota check this out!

Rupert Pupkin 12-14-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
60 buck a month?? F me! As we speak,I'm paying 145 for DSL,DvR and Digital cable with no Special added channels. I goota check this out!

Basic cable is included im my homeowner fees. I pay a little extra to get digital cable. When I first started getting the digital cable about 3-4 years ago, it was only an extra $12 a month. Now I think it's up to about $24 a month.

paisjpq 12-14-2006 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
It would be very hard for me to get a dish where I live. I live in a high-rise condominium and I face North. They would have to put the dish on top of the building. The board of directors would have to approve it. It would be a huge deal. I know that a group of homeowners here had considered it just recently, but there were so many issues that they didn't end up doing it. I think the cost was going to be very high too. The wiring is supposedly very complex.

I haven't totally ruled it out. I need to look into it further but it sounds like it would be a huge hassle and may even cost several thousand dollars.

Rupert...I live in a condo (not a high rise) and they were able to install a single dish outside and then link it to the existing cable box (the main one outside) since the cable is already hardwired into the building the dish can be accessed using the existing cable jacks in the condos...I don't know all the details but apparently it's perfectly legal. It allowed the board to approve it because there wouldn't be a bunch of different dishes attached to the building nor would they be drilling holes in the walls etc to install the witing.

Rupert Pupkin 12-14-2006 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq
Rupert...I live in a condo (not a high rise) and they were able to install a single dish outside and then link it to the existing cable box (the main one outside) since the cable is already hardwired into the building the dish can be accessed using the existing cable jacks in the condos...I don't know all the details but apparently it's perfectly legal. It allowed the board to approve it because there wouldn't be a bunch of different dishes attached to the building nor would they be drilling holes in the walls etc to install the witing.

Hopefully they can do something similar here.


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