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IrishofNDMan 12-09-2006 09:26 AM

Troy Smith admits it...
 
on the Dan Patrick Show yesterday, Troy Smith admitted that Brady Quinn is the best college qb in the nation. You know it's true when this guy will come out and say it.

GO IRISH!!!!!!

BRADY 4 HEISMAN!!!!!

SCUDSBROTHER 12-09-2006 11:51 AM

I think the only major flaw with Brady is that he is a bit of a slow reader.If he reads the field that slowly in the pro game,he will get run over,and hurt a lot.He is a decent mover,but if you can't get rid of the ball quicker,you'll be getting some injuries.

Nascar1966 12-09-2006 10:28 PM

Obviously beating Army, Navy and Air Force not only didn't it get Quinn the Heisman. He didn't even get runnerup. The voters were heard and were more inpressed with a QB beating at least two top ten teams during the year. If im not mistaken both Michigan and Texas were in the top ten when Ohio State beat them.




GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

repent 12-09-2006 10:57 PM

Smith deserves the award.
and OSU is a very good team led by the best college football coach in some time.
Id take Leak over Quinn any day of the week.


Repent

skippy3481 12-10-2006 04:10 PM

If you would take leak over quinn you are insane. Notre dames line is atrocious. Wait until quinn gets some kids who can actually catch the ball in the nfl. He'll be just fine. Chris leak will be lucky to be drafted.

pgardn 12-10-2006 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy3481
If you would take leak over quinn you are insane. Notre dames line is atrocious. Wait until quinn gets some kids who can actually catch the ball in the nfl. He'll be just fine. Chris leak will be lucky to be drafted.

EGGzactly.
Quinn needs a team, especially an Oline.

repent 12-10-2006 10:46 PM

you guys are nuts.
hes not even Alex Smith.
not by a long shot.

Leak is a gamer. going to do big things.


Repent

IrishofNDMan 12-10-2006 10:58 PM

Chris Leak???? I nominate you IDIOT and STUPID A$$ of this board. This guy is terrible, he isn't even the best QB on Florida. Don't try to compare a top 5 pick with a 7th round pick if that buddy.

repent 12-10-2006 11:12 PM

think what you want guys.
Im not an expert.
not a coach.
not an analyst.
never even played at a high level.

but I have watched a lot of football like a lot of you have.
and I say Quinn will be a bust.
Tim Couch.

Leak is a gamer.
and he will win football games wherever he ends up.
Im slightly biased for personal reasons, but I still believe what I type.

btw, f*ck you IrishNDFan.
you are a waste of space and clearly biased towards some prick who the media has manufactured into a heisman candidate.
if he played at Oregon State or Indiana University, nobody would give 2 sh*ts about Quinn.
f*ck off and die moron.



Repent

IrishofNDMan 12-10-2006 11:20 PM

You don't know football, Chris Leak is not a good QB, and most florida fans will even tell you this. Name one thing Leak does better than Brady Quinn. There is a reason BQ was hyped up, because he is DAMN GOOD!!! He broke pretty much every ND QB record there is. Quinn is 6'4, has great arm strength, is faily mobile, and most of all is very very very very very smart and has a lot of knowledge of the game of football. Brady Quinn is a gamer. Without Quinn, ND would have had probably 3 more losses this year.

Brady Quinn will be a great NFL QB, Chris Leak will do good at whatever career he has chosen out of football.

Repent = Notre Dame hater and blind MORON!

IrishofNDMan 12-10-2006 11:22 PM

also, Repent, you have been a bust at life. You try to compare Brady Quinn and Tim Couch, be they have absolutely no similarities whatsoever!

Brady Quinns 35 passing tds compared to 5 ints is no reason why he was up for the Heisman, it was strictly because of the media!!

LOL AT THIS FOOL REPENT!

repent 12-10-2006 11:37 PM

yeah thats great dude.
im a bust at life b/c I dont believe Brady Quinn is going to be a good NFL QB.
ok,
that makes sense.

Leak will be a good NFL QB.
so what if Quinn broke ND's passing records.
he is in a QB friendly offensive system.
so he put up better numbers than Ron Powlus or Rick Meirer.
big freaking deal.
those are 2 all time greats for sure.

time will tell.
actually Couch probably enjoyed a higher level of success at the pro level than Quinn ever will.
I was probably being too optimistic.
think Dan McGuire instead.


Repent

SCUDSBROTHER 12-10-2006 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repent
f*ck off and die moron.
Repent



A little strong.

repent 12-10-2006 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
You don't know football, Chris Leak is not a good QB, and most florida fans will even tell you this. Name one thing Leak does better than Brady Quinn. !


he wins.


Repent

repent 12-10-2006 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
A little strong.

maybe Scuds,
but dont act like anyone is going to miss this guy's sideshow if he does die.

theres a ND drama queen at every sports bar you walk in to.
they live in some dream world with 4 horsemen or something and some dude named nute is the best coach on earth.

its a media creation.
its not the real world.
congratulate them for getting one over on college football and getting them to agree to that riduculous system where they are part of the BCS despite not being in a football conference.
they are good scammers.
thats about it.



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repent 12-10-2006 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Actually Notre Dame's system isn't real QB friendly. It's more of an NFL offense than most colleges because of Weis. Quinn picked it up pretty good last year, and this. Now Quinn left a little to be desired in the big games, but I think he'll be a good pro.


thats fine.
thats your opinion,and you are more than entitled to it.
but its not some type of certainty like the author of this thread would have us believe.

I say it is QB friendly, at least from the point of putting up good stats.
I say he flops at the next level.
hope ND fans have fun in May or whenever the draft is.
b/c thats going to be the high point of his NFL career.


Repent

King Glorious 12-13-2006 01:48 AM

I think what Troy Smith was saying was that Brady Quinn is a better quarterback in the traditional sense. Probably better as a drop back, stay in the pocket type and maybe has a better sense of how to read defenses and such. But make no mistake about it. Troy Smith is the better football player. He's one of those guys that makes things happen. It's similar to Vince Young vs. Matt Leinart.

Coach Pants 12-13-2006 08:50 AM

Brady Quinn will be a bust in the pros.

skippy3481 12-13-2006 09:08 AM

You people saying he will bust are completely biased. It all depends on the situation he gets put into. Trent dilfer won a super bowl, trent dilfer now. Brady quinn has a great deal of talent and with the right team he will be fine. Don't pronounce judgement until he gets a full year in.

Coach Pants 12-13-2006 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy3481
You people saying he will bust are completely biased. It all depends on the situation he gets put into. Trent dilfer won a super bowl, trent dilfer now. Brady quinn has a great deal of talent and with the right team he will be fine. Don't pronounce judgement until he gets a full year in.

Don't tell me what to do. He's going to fail.

skippy3481 12-13-2006 09:38 AM

Pillow how those football picks doing for ya. Based off your track record hes bound to be a pro bowler in three years.

Coach Pants 12-13-2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy3481
Pillow how those football picks doing for ya. Based off your track record hes bound to be a pro bowler in three years.

They're doing about as good as your chances of making love to Brady Quinn. Why so defensive over someone you've never met?

skippy3481 12-13-2006 09:49 AM

I'm not defensive at all i just have people saying he has no chance is going to flop. Just because you don't like notre dame don't hate on the player. The kid has the most talent of any dropback qb in the country. Like i said, his situation will dictate if he succeeds.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-13-2006 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Brady Quinn will be a bust in the pros.

i heard that about v young.....it totally is situational..if he goes to a bust out team ..he will make them better but they still will suck....

Coach Pants 12-13-2006 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy3481
I'm not defensive at all i just have people saying he has no chance is going to flop. Just because you don't like notre dame don't hate on the player. The kid has the most talent of any dropback qb in the country. Like i said, his situation will dictate if he succeeds.

And you're a Notre Dame homer. Your opinion is as biased as mine. You can express it even though it's wrong. Unlike you, I don't get sand in the vagine over some dude I don't know.

Coach Pants 12-13-2006 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
i heard that about v young.....it totally is situational..if he goes to a bust out team ..he will make them better but they still will suck....

And Vince Young was 100x better than Quinn last year.

skippy3481 12-13-2006 10:00 AM

Am i a fan of notre dame sure, but beyond that i dont care. I a michigan fan at heart and we beat the hell out of them. Still the kid has talent, and your completely wrong. Vince young had better feet but he has the vick problem. Can't throw precision routes.

Coach Pants 12-13-2006 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy3481
Am i a fan of notre dame sure, but beyond that i dont care. I a michigan fan at heart and we beat the hell out of them. Still the kid has talent, and your completely wrong. Vince young had better feet but he has the vick problem. Can't throw precision routes.

Says the guy who was singing Vick's praises a few weeks ago and attacked me for calling him the most overrated player in the NFL.

Michigan fan at heart, Notre Dame fan now?

Flip flop Flip flop

skippy3481 12-13-2006 10:05 AM

I'm not saying vick is a bad qb but he cant throw short, never has, never will. All he can do is throw outs and go's. But hes hell on wheels to catch. Vince young is the same way. No I'm still a michigan fan, but i dont have a hometown team so iI'll root for anyone in our region as long as they arent playing michigan.

Coach Pants 12-13-2006 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy3481
I'm not saying vick is a bad qb but he cant throw short, never has, never will. All he can do is throw outs and go's. But hes hell on wheels to catch. Vince young is the same way. No I'm still a michigan fan, but i dont have a hometown team so iI'll root for anyone in our region as long as they arent playing michigan.

Eh?
Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy3481
Two weeks and 7 PASSING TD"S. I have to admit, i had given up on him ever becoming a passing qb, but i have to admit, he has carved up two decent defense through the air.


skippy3481 12-13-2006 10:14 AM

Its simple go back and watch those two games. What did he do... he went over the top almost every play. Deep down the field. And he promptly preceded to show it was an abberation that he cannot do consistently.

Coach Pants 12-13-2006 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy3481
Its simple go back and watch those two games. What did he do... he went over the top almost every play. Deep down the field. And he promptly preceded to show it was an abberation that he cannot do consistently.

He can't do it consistently in part due to his recievers having butterfingers and his coach being a terrible play caller.

Regardless he's still overrated by the media and fans. He's got a smaller window of opportunity to succeed as a QB since he's mobile and the legs are the first to go with age. He's an acl away from being below average by NFL standards. And the way he plays the odds say he's due for a serious injury sooner than later.

That being said, i'm kind of liking the falcons chances this weekend against the cowboys.

Cajungator26 12-13-2006 10:27 AM

All of this is irrelevant. Nobody sucks as bad as Chris Leak. And YES, I'm a Gator fan. :p

Coach Pants 12-13-2006 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
All of this is irrelevant. Nobody sucks as bad as Chris Leak. And YES, I'm a Gator fan. :p

He'll be drafted by a team that thinks he has a shot to be the next Randle El. He's definitely not going to be a starting QB.

Cajungator26 12-13-2006 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
He'll be drafted by a team that thinks he has a shot to be the next Randle El. He's definitely not going to be a starting QB.

Agree with you there, PP...

He drives me nuts... I've seriously pulled my hair out over some of the shiatty passes he's made this season. :eek:

King Glorious 12-13-2006 11:06 AM

Chris Leak better work on his route running if he wants to play in the NFL. Ask Ronald Curry.

skippy3481 12-13-2006 09:01 PM

Falcons and stars scare me. Both are capable of playing great games and both are capable of self destructing. That game could go either way, although im rooting for vick.


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