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GPK 12-08-2006 10:12 PM

TAMPA/Late Pick 4/Sat.
 
Races 6-9

Race 6 CLM25K 1 1/16 TURF

#1 - QUITE THE GUY (10-1ML) - Allen/Allen combo always dangerous. 5 of 8 ITM on Tampa weeds. 3rd off and 3 works leading into this. Gets ground saving trip from rail.4th @14-1

#7 - IVAN JAY PERRY (5-2ML) - Late running 10YO gets Lezcano and pace to run at. Tough at a short price. 1st @4-5

#4 - OH OLEG (8-1ML) - Ohio bred exits 2 straight state bred 1 1/4 dirt races. Returns to track and surface that he has had luck on in the past.3rd @11-1

#3 - BIG TEX (4-1ML) - Another with a couple good races on the Tampa grass. Draw a line through his last off the turf effort and he fits in here nicely.2nd @6-1

AE #12 EVERYTHING TO GAIN - Back class puts him on top if he draws in.


Race 7 MSW 18K 6 FURLONGS

#6 - BELLO PAPPA (15-1ML) - Bennett runner well bet in debut, but raced wide after being bumped. 3 sharp works show this son of Snow Ridge loves the sand at Tampa. Trainer stats impressive in all areas. Sitting on go and a very live longshot.

#5 - BARKLEY SOUND (2-1ML) - Raced well in two starts in KY. 2 local works not awe inspiring, but Joan Scott knows her 2YO's. May be vulnerable at a short price.1st @ 4-5

#1 - BUSHY'S YIELD (5-1ML) - Kept to task nicely after breaking slow in debut and closed into a traditionaly speed favoring Meadowlands dirt.

#2 - NOTICE ME NOW (5-2ML) - Money burning favorite in first 2 starts will take $$$ again, but not expecting on ON TOP finish.2nd @ 5-2

LONGSHOT - #9 FRIEGHTER (12-1ML)


Race 8 ALW 21700NC 5 FURLONGS TURF

#2 - IMMEDIATE REACTION (10-1ML) - Bennett 22% first off the claim. Houghton should secure trip just off the speed drawn to his outside.

#8 - CALL ME PETE (4-1) - Zadie/Lezcano combo always dangerous and always a short price. Turf sprint specialist has plenty of speed.

#7 - PROCREATE (3-1) - The other speedball in the race. Trombetta ships him in off a light freshening. May be sitting on a big one.2nd @ 3-1

#10 - IN MEMORIAM (10-1ML) - Good post to stalk from and may run them down late if the speed isn't holding.


Race 9 OC 32K/N2X 6 FURLONGS

#3 WINNIES TIGGER TOO (8-1) - Horse for course returns to sight of his best efforts.

#7 GUAPETON (7-2ML) - Lightly raced 3YO has done little wrong thus far. Sports a bullet work over the track.1st @ EVEN

#6 RIGHT CONNECTION (15-1ML) - Suffolk shipper looks plenty fit to tackle these at a juicy price.

#2 DANGEROUS GUY (12-1) - Team Allen ships Awesome Again gelding down South after 3 1/2 month freshening. R.A. is 22% off this type layoff. Should boost exotics as well.



Pick 4 play

1-3-4-7/
1-5-6/
2-7-8/
7

$36 for $1

T3B:cool:

Bigsmc 12-08-2006 10:27 PM

My Pick 4 ticket as of now...

Race 6
1- Quite the Guy
7- Ivan Jay Perry
9- Pinch the Clown

Race 7
5 - Berkley Sound
6 - Bello Pappa

Race 8 (wide open race)
2- Immediate Reaction
4- Put Back the Shu
6- Dirtymoposse
7- Procreate
8- Call Me Pete
9- Wire Bound

Race 9
7- Guapeton
10- Roman Candles

1,7,9
5,6
2,4,6,7,8,9
7,10

$72

Good luck to all.

Bogey 12-08-2006 10:33 PM

Nice work Kev, Good Racing Luck

GPK 12-08-2006 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogey
Nice work Kev, Good Racing Luck


Thanks Gus...looking forward to the start of the meet tomorrow.

Scav 12-08-2006 10:34 PM

So many angles in that pick four ticket, so fruitfully and probably get prunes at the end of it.....

I like Kev's horse in the 4th leg (4 horse) a little.

GPK 12-08-2006 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
So many angles in that pick four ticket, so fruitfully and probably get prunes at the end of it.....

I like Kev's horse in the 4th leg (4 horse) a little.

Just seems to me that there are some vulnerable fav's in alot of these races...and I just tried to take the most reasonable stabs I thought possible. You know me and my betting patterns as well as anyone...I don't play much chalk.

Scav 12-08-2006 10:39 PM

You know, I was thinking about what Mike (Bigsmc) said and I think this needs to be hammered into our heads.

Recency (horses that just ran or have been running) could be a HUGE angle at Tampa to start the meet. That track is VERY deep and tiring and a horse off the layoff could want no part of that. I am going to pay close attention to that, see what comes of it..

GPK 12-08-2006 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
You know, I was thinking about what Mike (Bigsmc) said and I think this needs to be hammered into our heads.

Recency (horses that just ran or have been running) could be a HUGE angle at Tampa to start the meet. That track is VERY deep and tiring and a horse off the layoff could want no part of that. I am going to pay close attention to that, see what comes of it..


I agree...and for the most part I will play very few bets in the first couple weeks. Maybe some spot plays on turf routes...but no way am I playing every race. At most...1 spot play and the late 4. Just mainly gonna take notes and look for troubled trips, etc...

Scav 12-08-2006 10:53 PM

OH Scav just found chocolate ice cream in the freezer......

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-08-2006 11:07 PM

way to go kev thanks..

Scav 12-09-2006 12:42 PM

6: 1,4,7,9
7: 2,3,6
8: 4
9: 1,10

6: 7,9
7: 2,3,6
8: 4
9: 1,10

Both tickets are for $1

paisjpq 12-09-2006 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T3B
Races 6-9

Race 6 CLM25K 1 1/16 TURF

#1 - QUITE THE GUY (10-1ML) - Allen/Allen combo always dangerous. 5 of 8 ITM on Tampa weeds. 3rd off and 3 works leading into this. Gets ground saving trip from rail.

#7 - IVAN JAY PERRY (5-2ML) - Late running 10YO gets Lezcano and pace to run at. Tough at a short price.

#4 - OH OLEG (8-1ML) - Ohio bred exits 2 straight state bred 1 1/4 dirt races. Returns to track and surface that he has had luck on in the past.

#3 - BIG TEX (4-1ML) - Another with a couple good races on the Tampa grass. Draw a line through his last off the turf effort and he fits in here nicely.

AE #12 EVERYTHING TO GAIN - Back class puts him on top if he draws in.

Pick 4 play

1-3-4-7/
1-5-6/
2-7-8/
7

$36 for $1

T3B:cool:

just got a phone call from an OTB in roanoke...where T3B is set up for the afternoon...

6th race 7-3-4-1
if you boxed... $2ex. $20.20, $2tri. 127.20
and one leg down on the P4:cool:

Scav 12-09-2006 02:04 PM

All four tickets (my two and Bigs and JO3) are still alive

4 in the 6th is an auto play back next out if on the lawn, 1 is also another play back

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-09-2006 02:13 PM

t3b gets the tri congrats..

Scav 12-09-2006 02:25 PM

blah...HATE horse racing...Like the four in race 8.....

paisjpq 12-09-2006 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T3B
Race 7 MSW 18K 6 FURLONGS

#6 - BELLO PAPPA (15-1ML) - Bennett runner well bet in debut, but raced wide after being bumped. 3 sharp works show this son of Snow Ridge loves the sand at Tampa. Trainer stats impressive in all areas. Sitting on go and a very live longshot.

#5 - BARKLEY SOUND (2-1ML) - Raced well in two starts in KY. 2 local works not awe inspiring, but Joan Scott knows her 2YO's. May be vulnerable at a short price.

#1 - BUSHY'S YIELD (5-1ML) - Kept to task nicely after breaking slow in debut and closed into a traditionaly speed favoring Meadowlands dirt.

#2 - NOTICE ME NOW (5-2ML) - Money burning favorite in first 2 starts will take $$$ again, but not expecting on ON TOP finish.

:

Race 7: 5-2-11-7
$2 exacta 9.60...2 legs P4 to go:)

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-09-2006 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq
Race 7: 5-2-11-7
$2 exacta 9.60...2 legs P4 to go:)

nice job gpk.. getting nice price on cannons horse at turfway race 6 pp9 18-1:D

Scav 12-09-2006 02:49 PM

HILARIOUS. Ferrer blows up GPK's ticket.....He doesn't choke Dini's horses

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-09-2006 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
HILARIOUS. Ferrer blows up GPK's ticket.....He doesn't choke Dini's horses

that guy is gpk cryptonite....

GPK 12-09-2006 05:03 PM

Will a more experienced race watcher take a look at the replay of the 6th race. I loved the #1 QUITE A GUY in there today. Mike Allen gave a strange ride in there...looked to have plenty of horse, but made a move incredibly early. Not sure what he was thinking there at all. Not sure if he would have beat the winner...but all I ever ask for is a chance...and after a very premature move, I had no chance. I had a WP wager on him and really thought he fit nicely in that race.

Any comments to help would be great.

Scav 12-09-2006 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
that guy is gpk cryptonite....

It is like Laviolette to me. i would love to see Laviolette go down to Tampa, it would be so hilarious, he, Craig Faine, and Taylor Hole can start a pool when one of them would get their first win....

GPK 12-09-2006 05:14 PM

I can tell you already that Jose and I are gonna have a long meet. Only way to guarantee that he never wins is for me to bet his every mount....

Scav 12-09-2006 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T3B
Will a more experienced race watcher take a look at the replay of the 6th race. I loved the #1 QUITE A GUY in there today. Mike Allen gave a strange ride in there...looked to have plenty of horse, but made a move incredibly early. Not sure what he was thinking there at all. Not sure if he would have beat the winner...but all I ever ask for is a chance...and after a very premature move, I had no chance. I had a WP wager on him and really thought he fit nicely in that race.

Any comments to help would be great.

1) Not beating Ivan Jay Perry, horse is just 'right' right now, which is amazing given he is 10. Rivelli is also known around here as a 'super' trainer

2) It was a position move, I told you this already, he was already 8 bazillion wide and needed to make that move for ANY hope, how he got 8 bazillion wide is beyond me. I can't find the replay to confirm this, but this is what I saw while watching the race

3) Play him back next time, he could have needed the race, the 4 is an auto play back, he had alot of run but didn't get the trip.....

GPK 12-09-2006 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
1) Not beating Ivan Jay Perry, horse is just 'right' right now, which is amazing given he is 10. Rivelli is also known around here as a 'super' trainer

2) It was a position move, I told you this already, he was already 8 bazillion wide and needed to make that move for ANY hope, how he got 8 bazillion wide is beyond me. I can't find the replay to confirm this, but this is what I saw while watching the race

3) Play him back next time, he could have needed the race, the 4 is an auto play back, he had alot of run but didn't get the trip.....


again...I ask someone BETTER than I watch this race...



8 wide....yeah....rewatch the race...not even close...


Needed the race????? was 3rd off a layoff....and had 3 works from his last race...barely a month ago...until today....

Freaking horse didnt need a race and wasnt wide....it was a premature move.

Scav 12-09-2006 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T3B
again...I ask someone BETTER than I watch this race...



8 wide....yeah....rewatch the race...not even close...


Needed the race????? was 3rd off a layoff....and had 3 works from his last race...barely a month ago...until today....

Freaking horse didnt need a race and wasnt wide....it was a premature move.

Don't make me smoke your ornery ass....

GPK 12-09-2006 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Don't make me smoke your ornery ass....


just think the two things you noted made little sense....I would still like another opinion

Raysva 12-10-2006 02:25 AM

I played him also keyed him with #7 and hell yes moved early wide very short time not in the turn . Was well meant and just awful ride I pissed and moaned with you gpk when I saw that butcher job unfold. Just sick, might take a while for him to get over that screw the jock give him , might look him over close next time he runs. But I will cash a ticket on him at TB.


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