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Kasept 12-07-2006 05:49 AM

Derby Trail Racing Partnership
 
From the 12/7 'announcement' above...

INTRODUCING "DEE TEE STABLES" RACING PARTNERSHIP: I'm pleased to announce that Derby Trail, at the suggestion of Hooves and in partnership with trainer Chuck Simon (Cannon Shell), is forming a racing partnership. Chuck, who runs his strings at Saratoga, Churchill, Turfway and Fairgrounds, is the perfect guy for all of us to get into a partnership with, given his long history of success.

His choice of racing venues will give Derby Trailers in nearly every part of the country the opportunity to come to the track and be part of the ownership experience; his ability to pick out sale or claiming horses offers us a way into the game at any level depending on the amount of Derby Trailers that get involoved; His record of success and integrity is unquestionable, and he's about as fun a guy to be around as there is in the game...

Details will be forthcoming, but the partnership will be a closed end style deal with shares offered in horses for a one-time, flat rate buy-in per horse, likely $500 per share, to cover the acquisition of the runners. Chuck will handle the training expenses and receive 50% of all purses as compensation for his costs.

This is a terrific way to get into horse ownership, and most importantly, should be a tremendous amount of fun for all of us. We aren't looking to win the Derby, but hope to simply have a great time and bring as many Derby Trailers into the game at a reasonable cost as possible. More information will follow, but we hope to have the initial share offering completed by January 15. There are already 7 DTers that form the foundation of the first partnership...

Look for a thread to be started in the Paddock, or a Room opened, to keep everyone informed about the development of Dee Tee Stables...

(Well.. this is the thread... Please let us know your interest/reaction to getting involved!)

Steve

Bigsmc 12-07-2006 06:31 AM

Sounds great Steve.

I will definitely be in and think it will be a blast.

stevepopyak 12-07-2006 07:12 AM

Consider me "in".

Balletto 12-07-2006 07:27 AM

I'll join.

philcski 12-07-2006 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
From the 12/7 'announcement' above...

INTRODUCING "DEE TEE STABLES" RACING PARTNERSHIP: I'm pleased to announce that Derby Trail, at the suggestion of Hooves and in partnership with trainer Chuck Simon (Cannon Shell), is forming a racing partnership. Chuck, who runs his strings at Saratoga, Churchill, Turfway and Fairgrounds, is the perfect guy for all of us to get into a partnership with, given his long history of success.

His choice of racing venues will give Derby Trailers in nearly every part of the country the opportunity to come to the track and be part of the ownership experience; his ability to pick out sale or claiming horses offers us a way into the game at any level depending on the amount of Derby Trailers that get involoved; His record of success and integrity is unquestionable, and he's about as fun a guy to be around as there is in the game...

Details will be forthcoming, but the partnership will be a closed end style deal with shares offered in horses for a one-time, flat rate buy-in per horse, likely $500 per share, to cover the acquisition of the runners. Chuck will handle the training expenses and receive 50% of all purses as compensation for his costs.

This is a terrific way to get into horse ownership, and most importantly, should be a tremendous amount of fun for all of us. We aren't looking to win the Derby, but hope to simply have a great time and bring as many Derby Trailers into the game at a reasonable cost as possible. More information will follow, but we hope to have the initial share offering completed by January 15. There are already 7 DTers that form the foundation of the first partnership...

Look for a thread to be started in the Paddock, or a Room opened, to keep everyone informed about the development of Dee Tee Stables...

(Well.. this is the thread... Please let us know your interest/reaction to getting involved!)

Steve

Steve-
What will the Partnerships' initial approach to the game be? Claiming or buying at say a 2YO in training sale? Obviously both have pluses and minuses.

pweizer 12-07-2006 07:44 AM

I would love to be a part of this.

Paul

ninetoone 12-07-2006 07:55 AM

I'm interested

slotdirt 12-07-2006 08:06 AM

Wow, great news and fantastic idea.

oracle80 12-07-2006 08:21 AM

Good luck guys!!!!!!
I'd like to add that your trainer has a lotta experience in training for diificult owners so handling 20 guys would normally be a trainers nightmare, but you have a guy who is best suited for that job of anyone alive.
After training for Ken Ramsey and Gus Goldsmith, anything else is a stroll in the park!!!

Thunder Gulch 12-07-2006 08:43 AM

Count me in...somebody please think about claiming something at Oaklawn. I'm in a few partnerships elsewhere that I can't get to on a regular basis, but my partners and I all go to Oaklawn in the spring.

oracle80 12-07-2006 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
Count me in...somebody please think about claiming something at Oaklawn. I'm in a few partnerships elsewhere that I can't get to on a regular basis, but my partners and I all go to Oaklawn in the spring.

If you are gonna claim it has to be at a track that has "open claiming" Point.
Some jurisdictions have rules(like NY) that state in order to claim you must have run a horse(trainer and owner) at the current meet.
Of course after 30 days a claim may be sold legally to new owners.
I'm sure Chuck has a plan.

SniperSB23 12-07-2006 08:53 AM

Sounds great, I'd love to get involved although with my current financial situation I would have to start small with like one or two shares. Hopefully down the road I could become more involved.

slotdirt 12-07-2006 08:54 AM

I'd just point out that just because there are 20 partners doesn't necessarily mean all 20 are going to have direct input into the trainer. I'd suggest Steve (or anybody else) take charge as a managing partner for most dealings with the trainer.

Then again, since this is a pretty good and genial forum, most things could be discussed right here at DT.com. Just my two pennies.

Scav 12-07-2006 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
I'd just point out that just because there are 20 partners doesn't necessarily mean all 20 are going to have direct input into the trainer. I'd suggest Steve (or anybody else) take charge as a managing partner for most dealings with the trainer.

Then again, since this is a pretty good and genial forum, most things could be discussed right here at DT.com. Just my two pennies.

exactly. like Simon is going to want 38 people calling him....He could probably start an 'area' specific to the horse that we claim

dellinger63 12-07-2006 09:04 AM

This thing won't be about 20 people making decisions but 20 people coming behind one trainer who has a proven record of making right decisions. Win or lose it will be a blast.

slotdirt 12-07-2006 09:08 AM

By the way, I had to comment somewhere on the Steak and Shake logo being one of the built-in avatar selections. That's just downright glorious.

Scav 12-07-2006 09:09 AM

how awesome would Derby Trail silks be.......

PSH 12-07-2006 09:10 AM

Cool!
 
I am sure details will be coming. very exciting. number of questions to ask...
1. partners all same for multiple horses or each horse has different set of partners
2.500 cost includes training but also many other costs such as riders comp insurance etc.
3.I assume each partner needs to get licensed in each state the horses will be racing in which adds to cost
4many other issues

great fun

PSH

slotdirt 12-07-2006 09:33 AM

Licensing depends on the state. Some states only require a license if an individual owns more than a certain percentage of a partnership. If you're buying one share, you probably don't need to get licensed in most states.

Cajungator26 12-07-2006 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
Licensing depends on the state. Some states only require a license if an individual owns more than a certain percentage of a partnership. If you're buying one share, you probably don't need to get licensed in most states.

I love WaHo, Slot... good avatar choice! LMAO :D

Thoroughbred Fan 12-07-2006 09:47 AM

I wish you all a lot of luck. Hopefully some of you can make it to the tracks where the horse will run. Having in a winner circle photo is the greatest. Although I think most of mine have cost me thousands. LOL!

saucon17 12-07-2006 09:47 AM

Here is a link to licensing. These is the site we get all our forms from.

http://www.racinglicense.com/

oracle80 12-07-2006 09:50 AM

Be even cooler if you guys bought a filly and she ended up in the breeding shed.
You could breed her and split up the stud fee of a solid stallion a whole bunch of ways and race or sell the offspring.

The Bid 12-07-2006 10:43 AM

Since Chuck is going to trian the KY division of Derby Trailers, whos going to take the NY division? As far as Chucks string goes, Ill go in for 500

Sightseek 12-07-2006 11:32 AM

It sounds like a lovely idea. Would it be possible for you to email the respondants on this thread a business proposal of the partnership as soon as it becomes available? Also, would you be opposed to having a meeting for people who are geographically close?

ddthetide 12-07-2006 11:51 AM

wife and i waffle house every saturday morning ! cool avatar.

Downthestretch55 12-07-2006 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
Be even cooler if you guys bought a filly and she ended up in the breeding shed.
You could breed her and split up the stud fee of a solid stallion a whole bunch of ways and race or sell the offspring.

Mike,
If the partners are looking for NY bred fillies, private purchase, I might be able to help.
This sounds like a good way for many. I wish all the best.
DTS

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-07-2006 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Since Chuck is going to trian the KY division of Derby Trailers, whos going to take the NY division? As far as Chucks string goes, Ill go in for 500

he will train all of them..he takes a string to toga for the meet..

Seattleallstar 12-07-2006 12:53 PM

im in! how do we get started

Thoroughbred Fan 12-07-2006 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
Here is a link to licensing. These is the site we get all our forms from.

http://www.racinglicense.com/


You shouldn't need licenseing. Only people who own 5% or more of the horse need to be licensed in most jurisdictions. That is a bit of cash you can save. You will need to pay to get your stable name, but if the trainer owns 50% then the other 20 of you will own 2.5% each. So save the license money and bet it to win on your horse. You can still run in the stable's name.

-TF

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-07-2006 01:01 PM

there will be updates in the next few days.....as we trust chucks horsemanship and that he has more than a vested intrest he has the sole opinion about spotting the horses..with the amount of people invoved there is not another way to do it..constructive thoughts will allways be listened to of course..

dellinger63 12-07-2006 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
there will be updates in the next few days.....as we trust chucks horsemanship and that he has more than a vested intrest he has the sole opinion about spotting the horses..with the amount of people invoved there is not another way to do it..constructive thoughts will allways be listened to of course..

key word being 'constructive'. lol

SCUDSBROTHER 12-07-2006 01:24 PM

If I donate,any chance we can get Karakorum Tuxedo?









JST KID'N.

Scav 12-07-2006 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
If I donate,any chance we can get Karakorum Tuxedo?









JST KID'N.

absolutely hilarious

PeteMugg 12-07-2006 03:39 PM

Steve, this sounds like a real blast. Consider me in if this is open to anyone on the board.

Hickory Hill Hoff 12-07-2006 03:58 PM

Sounds like the best way to say; "I own a part of a horse".
With the knowledge from the people on this site and a well known trainer like Chuck, the partnership gets an advantage over small time owners. Can't wait to get more info...sounds like a lot of fun with little expense for the shares.

skippy3481 12-07-2006 04:06 PM

i completely agree sounds like a very enticing propostion.

kenny p 12-07-2006 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
From the 12/7 'announcement' above...

INTRODUCING "DEE TEE STABLES" RACING PARTNERSHIP: I'm pleased to announce that Derby Trail, at the suggestion of Hooves and in partnership with trainer Chuck Simon (Cannon Shell), is forming a racing partnership. Chuck, who runs his strings at Saratoga, Churchill, Turfway and Fairgrounds, is the perfect guy for all of us to get into a partnership with, given his long history of success.

His choice of racing venues will give Derby Trailers in nearly every part of the country the opportunity to come to the track and be part of the ownership experience; his ability to pick out sale or claiming horses offers us a way into the game at any level depending on the amount of Derby Trailers that get involoved; His record of success and integrity is unquestionable, and he's about as fun a guy to be around as there is in the game...

Details will be forthcoming, but the partnership will be a closed end style deal with shares offered in horses for a one-time, flat rate buy-in per horse, likely $500 per share, to cover the acquisition of the runners. Chuck will handle the training expenses and receive 50% of all purses as compensation for his costs.

This is a terrific way to get into horse ownership, and most importantly, should be a tremendous amount of fun for all of us. We aren't looking to win the Derby, but hope to simply have a great time and bring as many Derby Trailers into the game at a reasonable cost as possible. More information will follow, but we hope to have the initial share offering completed by January 15. There are already 7 DTers that form the foundation of the first partnership...

Look for a thread to be started in the Paddock, or a Room opened, to keep everyone informed about the development of Dee Tee Stables...

(Well.. this is the thread... Please let us know your interest/reaction to getting involved!)

Steve

Count me in. If there is room. KP

2 Dollar Bill 12-07-2006 04:28 PM

Sounds like a great idea, I would like to get in also
and you never know..... come some first saturday of May... I'll rent the
Yellow School Bus... LOL>..

sumitas 12-07-2006 05:19 PM

Ya got my attention. I'll goose oracle in the winner's circle for the photo.


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