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oracle80 12-06-2006 11:04 AM

Trivia
 
We had some really good and challenging trivia going on the easy Goer thread.
Lets get another thread started.

What horse ran the day after Holy Bull won the Woodward, at Belmont Park, and was a so so 2nd in a two year old stakes race?
He went on to be a true great.

blackthroatedwind 12-06-2006 11:09 AM

How great could he have been.....Thunder Gulch was the 3YO star of the following season and probably still a maiden at this time.

I will have to wrack my brain for this one.

blackthroatedwind 12-06-2006 11:12 AM

I assume you aren't confused and thinking of Skip Away's incredibly hard luck second to Gator Dancer the day after Cigar's BC Classic win?

dr. fager 12-06-2006 11:14 AM

I'm thinking someone on this board is named after him, I could be wrong....



horse has ties to the finger dipper?

oracle80 12-06-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I assume you aren't confused and thinking of Skip Away's incredibly hard luck second to Gator Dancer the day after Cigar's BC Classic win?

Yep that was it
I blew it
I was even gonna say to Gator Dancer

oracle80 12-06-2006 11:16 AM

What a storm of profanity that trip evoked from me.

dr. fager 12-06-2006 11:18 AM

well obviously I was wrong, I was thinking Da Hoss, who I just checked and was unbeaten at 2. Oh well...lol

Downthestretch55 12-06-2006 11:28 AM

I love trivia, but I'm not too good at it.
Do you know the winner of the Peter Pan Stakes (G2) when Treasure Island, Lemon Drop Kid, and David were behind him?
Clue: He was 2nd behind Adonis in the Wood Memorial.

oracle80 12-06-2006 11:33 AM

Before this Nobiz Like Showbiz, there was another one with the same exacvt name, owned by the same folks.
He was a grass horse in the early to mid 90's and he had a bit of notoriety himself due to a race at Saratoga. What did he do?

oracle80 12-06-2006 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
I love trivia, but I'm not too good at it.
Do you know the winner of the Peter Pan Stakes (G2) when Treasure Island, Lemon Drop Kid, and David were behind him?
Clue: He was 2nd behind Adonis in the Wood Memorial.

I went to that Wood, but I do not recall who Adonis beat. WHo the heck was it?

Getaway 12-06-2006 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Before this Nobiz Like Showbiz, there was another one with the same exacvt name, owned by the same folks.
He was a grass horse in the early to mid 90's and he had a bit of notoriety himself due to a race at Saratoga. What did he do?

Was that the horse that won the same race twice in one year?

oracle80 12-06-2006 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Getaway
Was that the horse that won the same race twice in one year?

Nope. That wasn't his two minutes of fame.

brianwspencer 12-06-2006 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
I love trivia, but I'm not too good at it.
Do you know the winner of the Peter Pan Stakes (G2) when Treasure Island, Lemon Drop Kid, and David were behind him?
Clue: He was 2nd behind Adonis in the Wood Memorial.

Best of Luck.

I don't know much trivia from this long ago (I was 16), but I loved Lemon Drop Kid at the time, so there is very little about most of his races that I don't remember.

CapperZeke 12-06-2006 12:05 PM

Menifee was the horse.

Downthestretch55 12-06-2006 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Best of Luck.

I don't know much trivia from this long ago (I was 16), but I loved Lemon Drop Kid at the time, so there is very little about most of his races that I don't remember.

Correct Brian!
Mike, you know me...I had to get a plug in for the baby that I'm waiting for.

Buffymommy 12-06-2006 12:12 PM

How do you all keep this stuff memorized? It is a fun thread to read so thanks.

CapperZeke 12-06-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Before this Nobiz Like Showbiz, there was another one with the same exacvt name, owned by the same folks.
He was a grass horse in the early to mid 90's and he had a bit of notoriety himself due to a race at Saratoga. What did he do?


Was that the horse that went through the hedge and jumped in the pond?

oracle80 12-06-2006 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CapperZeke
Was that the horse that went through the hedge and jumped in the pond?

No it was not.
On closing day of 1993 at Saratoga, a huge carryover had accumulated.
The pik-6 ran on races 3-8 back then.
Nobiz like Showbiz crossed the line first in the 7th race, a grass allowance at 8-5 odds.
Shortly after he crossed the line an inquiry sign lit up the tote board, and he was disqualified. Pat Day and Pete Vestal's horse was placed first at 20-1, and in the next race Strategic Maneuver won the Spinaway, and some very happy pick-6 players got back 115 grand rather than the small amount they would have gotten had Nobiz Like Showbiz not been disqualified.

oracle80 12-06-2006 12:28 PM

Name Groovy's first trainer.

oracle80 12-06-2006 12:40 PM

Trainer Shug McGaughey hit the board in 5 consecutive Travers Stakes, the last two being wins with Easy Goer and Rhythm. Who were the three horses who hit the board before those wins?

blackthroatedwind 12-06-2006 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Trainer Shug McGaughey hit the board in 5 consecutive Travers Stakes, the last two being wins with Easy Goer and Rhythm. Who were the three horses who hit the board before those wins?

1986 - Personal Flag

1987 - Polish Navy

1988 - Seeking the Gold

oracle80 12-06-2006 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
1986 - Personal Flag

1987 - Polish Navy

1988 - Seeking the Gold

Very nice.
He has three wins and hes a bad trip(Personal Flag was moving like a winner before being clobbered by Broad Brush) and Pat Day's worst ride in grade one history(Seeking The Gold's ride has to be seen to be believed, strangled back behind a crawling pace and missed by a head bob while running his last 1/4 mile in a shade under 22:4!!!) from having 5 wins.

blackthroatedwind 12-06-2006 12:53 PM

I loved Personal Flag, and bet him in that Traver's and Haskell ( probably still the Monmouth Invitational ), but he found his own trouble more often than not.

eurobounce 12-06-2006 12:57 PM

Here is one for you...

What horse holds the record for most consecutive 2nd place finishes?

oracle80 12-06-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Here is one for you...

What horse holds the record for most consecutive 2nd place finishes?

Most I ever saw was My Friend Bernie. He was an ATM machine.
First 200 straight exacta I ever hit was with him at Saratoga underneath a Hertler horse named Devils Cry that Rafael Mojica Jr rode, it was the 4th race on a Saturday and I had to sweat an inquiry or claim of foul against the winner.
I think Bernie was 2nd like 14 times in a row, something close to that.

blackthroatedwind 12-06-2006 01:05 PM

So I guess Jacques Who is out?

Downthestretch55 12-06-2006 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Name Groovy's first trainer.

Jose Martin...recently passed away...RIP

oracle80 12-06-2006 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
So I guess Jacques Who is out?

Oh shoot!!! i remember him!! Wow, he may have Bernie beat.
I'm very interested in this.
Nocrow was another famous hanger who ran 2nd in NY bred maiden races a ridiculous number of times before Cordero finally got her home one day in the 9th race. Of course she came back and won her very next start which also incited an incredible outburst of profanity.

oracle80 12-06-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Jose Martin...recently passed away...RIP

Wrong sir.
Mervin "magoo" Marks.

Cajungator26 12-06-2006 01:10 PM

You guys know a lot! This thread is a great read... good idea. :D

brianwspencer 12-06-2006 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Here is one for you...

What horse holds the record for most consecutive 2nd place finishes?

there was a horse in california earlier this year who had run 2nd something like 9 times in a row I think. I can't remember his name, but it was absurd.

Downthestretch55 12-06-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Wrong sir.
Mervin "magoo" Marks.

Mike,
I must have read this wrong.
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/tod...67952&subsec=1

saucon17 12-06-2006 01:14 PM

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there was a horse in california earlier this year who had run 2nd something like 9 times in a row I think. I can't remember his name, but it was absurd.
Your thinking of King Palm

oracle80 12-06-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

You didn't read it wrong, but he wasnt the first trainer of the horse.

Buffymommy 12-06-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55


Maybe he wasn't Groovy's FIRST trainer.

eurobounce 12-06-2006 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
there was a horse in california earlier this year who had run 2nd something like 9 times in a row I think. I can't remember his name, but it was absurd.

That horse is owned my the Maloof (I think that is there name) brothers.

blackthroatedwind 12-06-2006 01:19 PM

I think Groovy may have had a few trainers before Jose Martin. It's pretty amazing he ran in the Derby.

Downthestretch55 12-06-2006 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
You didn't read it wrong, but he wasnt the first trainer of the horse.

OK...I'm humbled...missed "first".

oracle80 12-06-2006 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I think Groovy may have had a few trainers before Jose Martin. It's pretty amazing he ran in the Derby.

I know its hard to believe, but Magoo was his first trainer.
Noone ever gets that one right.

blackthroatedwind 12-06-2006 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
I know its hard to believe, but Magoo was his first trainer.
Noone ever gets that one right.


It's not hard to believe. He had horses back then and was more than a little shrewd with a young horse.

There are a lot of good trainers from 20 years ago that disappeared.


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