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Kasept 06-06-2025 08:17 PM

6/7: Belmont Stakes Racing Festival ~ 157th Belmont Day
 
BELMONT STAKES RACING FESTIVAL ~ 157TH BELMONT STAKES DAY


POST-SCRATCHES


1st: OC/N1X, F&M-3+, 6.5f (P5, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #1e Rice entry 6-5 4th/5th
Next Best: #2 Roswell 7-2 2nd
Exotics Use: #4 Proud Foot 8-1 7th
Super Add: #5 Maggy's Palace 8-1 WON ($16.80)


2nd: MSW, 3+, 7f (P4, P3, DD)

Crazily deep MSW which features host of obviously talented late starters including 4yo's from Pletcher (Life and Times) and Chad as well as 2 firsters from Mott that cut out to be good ones (Copious out of Paradise Woods/$475k Stars and Strides)..

Most Likely: #4 Mainstream 6-5 2nd
Best Value: #6 Copious 8-1 4th
Next Best: #7 Draft Riots 5-1 5th
Exotics Use: #10 Secured Lender 9-2 3rd


3rd: OC/N2X, 3+, 9f-OFF (Must Pay P5, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #12 Certified Loverboy 2-1 2nd
Best Value: #1 Big Blue Line 10-1 WON ($12.40)
Next Best: #14 Alternate Reality 8-1 3rd
Exotics Use: #5 Magical Ways 15-1 4th


4th: OC/N2X, 3+, 7f (P4, P3, DD)

Deep, perilous 2nd level OC/ALW and note that the 2 likeliest speed players are the only 2 runners in for the $75k tag. Hades comes back off a much needed 7 month break and Orseno is VERY strong off that kind of hiatus. Case could be made that Awesome Slew colt was only ever a one turn middle distance type and it feels like he'll be overlooked in here..

Best Value: #8 HADES 6-1 7th
Next Best: #9 General Partner 7-2 WON ($5.10)
Exotics Use: #5 Into Pleasure 10-1 4th
Super Add: #2 Echo Again 10-1 3rd


5th: OC/N1X, 3+, 7f (Must Pay P5, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #2 Silver Slugger 5-2 5th
Best Value: #3 Rocketeer 12-1 8th
Next Best: #9 Aggelos the Great 6-1 4th
Exotics Use: #10 Rookie Card 6-1 7th


P5 Grid:

1: 1-2 (A), - (B), - (C)
2: 4-6-7 (A), - (B), - (C)
3: 12 (A), 1 (B), - (C)
4: 8-9 (A), 2-5 (B), - (C)
5: 2-3-9 (A), - (B), - (C)

Simple (A+B): 2x3x2x4x3 = 144 x .50 = $72
All A's: 2x3x1x2x3 = 36 x .50 = $18


P4 Grid:

2: 4-6-7 (A), - (B), - (C)
3: 1-12 (A), - (B), - (C)
4: 2-5-8-9 (A), - (B), - (C)
5: 2-3-9 (A), - (B), - (C)

All A's: 3x2x4x3 = 72 x .50 = $36


6th: Wonder Again (G2), 3yo-F, 1m-OFF (P4, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #6 Nitrogen WON ($2.80)


7th: True North (G3), 4+, 6.5f (Must Pay P5, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #5 Book'em Danno 5-2 WON ($6.60)
Next Best: #4 Nakatomi 4-1 5th
Exotics Use: #6 Mullikin 2-1 2nd
Super Add: #1 Concrete Glory 8-1 7th


2-day .20 All Dirt P6 Grid:

FR 6: 3-4 (A), - (B), - (C)
FR 9: 4-7 (A), 1-2 (B), - (C)
SA 7: 4-5-6 (A), - (B), - (C)
SA 8: 1-4 (A), - (B), - (C)
SA 11: 1-2 (A), 5-10 (B), - (C)
SA 13: 2-6-7 (A), 3 (B), - (C)

Simple (A+B): 2x4x3x2x4x4 = 768 x .20 = $153.60
All A's: 2x2x3x2x2x3 = 144 x .20 = $28.80


8th: Metropolitan H. (G1), 3+, 1m ($5 Met-Belmont DBL, $1 P6, P3)

Best Value: #4 Just a Touch 4-1 3rd
Next Best: #1 Fierceness 1-1 2nd
Exotics Use: #5 Raging Torrent 5-1 WON ($18.00)


9th: Jaipur (G1), 3+, 5.5f-T (Must Pay P5, G/S, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #2 Think Big 6-5
Best Value: #8 Alogon 10-1
Next Best: #9 Ag Bullet 7-2
Exotics Use: #5 Arzak 8-1



2-day .50 All Turf P5 Grid:

FR 12: 8 (A), - (B), 1 (C)
FR 13: 1-2-3-8 (A), 9-10 (B), 5-7 (C)
SA 9: 2-9 (A), - (B), - (C)
SA 10: 1-5 (A), 2-7 (B), - (C)
SA 12: 2-3-4-6 (A), - (B), - (C)

Simple (A+B): 1x6x2x4x4 = 192 x .50 = $96
All A's: 1x4x2x2x4 = 64 x .50 = $32
Backups (CAAAA + ACAAA): 1x4x2x2x4 = 64 x .50 = $32 (1 in Leg A) + 1x2x2x2x4 = 32 x .50 = $16 (5-7 in Leg B)

50CENTPickFive ((2-DAY)2/8-1-ALL-ALL-ALL) 5 Correct Paid $8.70 x 32 = $278.40


10th: Pennine Ridge (G3), 3yo, 1m-OFF (Late P5, P4, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #7 Mi Bago 2nd
Next Best: #9 Noble Confessor 4th


11th: Woody Stephens (G1), 3yo, 7f ($5 Woody-Belmont DBL, P4, P3, DD)

Best Value: #1 Big Truzz 10-1 3rd
Next Best: #4 Patch Adams 5-1 WON ($8.80)
Exotics Use: #2 Madaket Road 10-1 2nd
Super Add: #5 Citizen Bull 5-1 4th


12th: Manhattan (G1), 4+, 9.5f-T (P3, DD)

Most Likely: #2 Integration 9-2
Next Best: #6 Spirit of St Louis 5-2
Best Value: #4 Carson's Run 12-1
Exotics Use: #3 Highway Robber 6-1



13th: Belmont Stakes (G1), 3yo, 10f (DD)

Most Likely: #7 Journalism 8-5 2nd
Next Best: #Baeza 4-1 3rd
Best Value: #8 Heart of Honor 30-1 6th
Exotics Use: #2 Sovereignty 2-1 WON ($7.00)


$2 Epsom Derby/Belmont Stakes DBL (10:30a)

EPS 5: 5-7-10-15 (A), - (B), - (C)
SAR 13: 6-7 (A), - (B), 2-3 (C)

All A's: 4x2 = 8 x $6 = $48
Backup (A-C): 4x2 = 8 x $2 = $16

$2 Epsom/Belmont DBL (5-2) Paid $67.00


14th: OC/N1X, 3+, 1m-OFF

Best Value: #10 Equivoque 15-1 4th
Next Best: #16 Whittington Park 5-2 3rd
Exotics Use: #14 Top Gun Rocket 2-1 WON ($4.10)
Super Add: #15 Street Swagg 6-1 2nd


Let's get lucky!
Steve

Kasept 06-07-2025 05:10 AM

$2 Epsom Derby/Belmont Stakes DBL (10:30a)

EPS 5: 5-7-10-15 (A), - (B), - (C)
SAR 13: 6-7 (A), - (B), 2-3 (C)

All A's: 4x2 = 8 x $6 = $48
Backup (A-C): 4x2 = 8 x $2 = $16

$2 Epsom/Belmont DBL (5-2) Paid $67.00

casp0555 06-07-2025 05:56 AM

Weather Underground is estimating right at 1" of rain through 10A eastern
yucky morning, hopefully it will stop before noon, :(

atolunch 06-07-2025 10:01 AM

Steve,

Thanks as always for your time and insights!

Are you planning on posting any more verticals today? Looks like a sloppy mess out there.

Good luck!

Kasept 06-07-2025 10:32 AM

No. Pointless.

casp0555 06-07-2025 10:41 AM

great :rolleyes::(

moses 06-07-2025 10:46 AM

If the Jaipur and Manhattan are canceled, how does that impact multi-race wagers?

Can we get a True North-Met Mile-Pennine Ridge-Woody Stephens-Belmont Pick 5?

Kasept 06-07-2025 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1182647)
If the Jaipur and Manhattan are canceled, how does that impact multi-race wagers?

Can we get a True North-Met Mile-Pennine Ridge-Woody Stephens-Belmont Pick 5?

No

moses 06-07-2025 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1182647)
If the Jaipur and Manhattan are canceled, how does that impact multi-race wagers?

Can we get a True North-Met Mile-Pennine Ridge-Woody Stephens-Belmont Pick 5?

So all the multi-race wagers with the Jaipur or Manhattan are canceled. The Manhattan is right before the Belmont so no doubles or pick 3-4-5 into the Belmont.

How is it possible in 2025 that they can’t adjust it so that every single day multi-race wager leading into the Belmont Stakes isn’t canceled? Seems simple enough and would never happen in the sports betting space.

Kasept 06-07-2025 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1182652)
So all the multi-race wagers with the Jaipur or Manhattan are canceled. The Manhattan is right before the Belmont so no doubles or pick 3-4-5 into the Belmont.

Correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1182652)
How is it possible in 2025 that they can’t adjust it so that every single day multi-race wager leading into the Belmont Stakes isn’t canceled? Seems simple enough and would never happen in the sports betting space.

Racing Commission rules.

Kasept 06-07-2025 11:23 AM

Revised schedule/betting menu. All big multis (P4/P5/P6) after P4 starting here in the 4th (R4-7) become unavailable due to the cancelled 9th and 11th. Rolling P3's starting in 4th (R4-6), 5th (R5-7) and 6th (R6-8) remain playable as are consecutive race DBL's (R10/11 & R13/14).


moses 06-07-2025 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1182655)
Correct.



Racing Commission rules.

That makes sense. It’s just frustrating to spend a time on a card to have it fall apart like this.

jms62 06-07-2025 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1182657)
That makes sense. It’s just frustrating to spend a time on a card to have it fall apart like this.

Irad put in No effort in the 5th race...

moses 06-07-2025 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1182658)
Irad put in No effort in the 5th race...

He must have known I needed him to finish off my pick 4 and keep my pick 5 going. Hated the favorite there but just didn’t go wide enough to include the 7.

moses 06-07-2025 01:34 PM

Bessie Abott seems like she could get loose on the lead and never look back here. Dylan Davis riding well. Maybe worth a shot.

moses 06-07-2025 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1182663)
Bessie Abott seems like she could get loose on the lead and never look back here. Dylan Davis riding well. Maybe worth a shot.

She was 2nd best today. By about 20 lengths.

casp0555 06-07-2025 02:49 PM

Met Mile/Belmont DD
$5
4,5/2,3

worth a shot:rolleyes:

casp0555 06-07-2025 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1182665)
She was 2nd best today. By about 20 lengths.

I had to smile at this comment Moses...:D

moses 06-07-2025 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1182667)
Met Mile/Belmont DD
$5
4,5/2,3

worth a shot:rolleyes:

Good luck. I like the 5 here at 8/1.

Going 1-5 exacta box.
Win bet on the 5.
$3 trifecta 5 / 1 / 2,4

moses 06-07-2025 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1182668)
I had to smile at this comment Moses...:D

:D

casp0555 06-07-2025 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1182669)
Good luck. I like the 5 here at 8/1.

Going 1-5 exacta box.
Win bet on the 5.
$3 trifecta 5 / 1 / 2,4

nice, nice.....

moses 06-07-2025 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1182671)
nice, nice.....

Thanks.

Also bet a $5 met-Belmont double 1,5 / 5

I already have some double bets from yesterday into Journalism so wanted to spread it out.

casp0555 06-07-2025 04:20 PM

Race 10 DD

$10
2,7/8

jms62 06-07-2025 05:19 PM

Nice Crush in the Woody Stevens Steve...:tro::$:

casp0555 06-07-2025 06:20 PM

young boy made it look easy....congrats to the connections...

moses 06-07-2025 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1182676)
young boy made it look easy....congrats to the connections...

Mott came prepared today.

Didn’t love Journalism going wide throughout but not sure Rispoli had a choice once he stumbled at the start. I’d have to watch again. Sovereignty got a great ride and showed a little bit of a new dimension being closer to the pace.

casp0555 06-07-2025 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1182667)
Met Mile/Belmont DD
$5
4,5/2,3

worth a shot:rolleyes:

162.50
takes a little of the sting out on the cancellations and bad weather

casp0555 06-07-2025 06:44 PM

Thanks Steve!!
 
Little west coast action
Late $5 Double Santa Anita

4,5,6/2,11

$30

Great job as always Steve, your effort and work to share your opinions does not go unappreciated...Thanks so much for all you do!

g'night....

knickslions2 06-07-2025 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1182678)
162.50
takes a little of the sting out on the cancellations and bad weather

Nice Billy

moses 06-07-2025 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1182679)
Little west coast action
Late $5 Double Santa Anita

4,5,6/2,11

$30

Great job as always Steve, your effort and work to share your opinions does not go unappreciated...Thanks so much for all you do!

g'night....

I’ll try the same.

6,8 / 5,11
$20.00

Kasept 06-08-2025 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1182679)
LGreat job as always Steve, your effort and work to share your opinions does not go unappreciated...Thanks so much for all you do! g'night....

Billy... THX a lot. Appreciate the sentiment as today was particularly frustrating after all the preparation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1182675)
Nice Crush in the Woody Stevens Steve...:tro::$:

Jim.. Thanks.. That was a great result that with the Epson/Belmont DBL helped carry the day. Tossing Chancer McPatrick and ignoring the Gate to Wire buzz was key.

Hope you and everybody got something good..

Kasept 06-08-2025 05:06 AM

Speaking of something good, Bobby Flay buttonholed me walking to paddock for Belmont to show his botched Woody trifecta bet, a mis-punch $1,000 box instead of $100... good for $90,000.

moses 06-08-2025 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1182686)
Speaking of something good, Bobby Flay buttonholed me walking to paddock for Belmont to show his botched Woody trifecta bet, a mis-punch $1,000 box instead of $100... good for $90,000.

:eek:

Like others have said, thanks for all your work Steve.

casp0555 06-08-2025 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1182686)
Speaking of something good, Bobby Flay buttonholed me walking to paddock for Belmont to show his botched Woody trifecta bet, a mis-punch $1,000 box instead of $100... good for $90,000.

:eek:I need that kind of mistake :D

jms62 06-08-2025 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1182688)
:eek:I need that kind of mistake :D

Flay sure keeps alot of money in his wagering account. If it were me Id probably notice at the last second and cancel the bet but wouldn't have enough time to enter the right amount and have no ticket :D

Kasept 06-08-2025 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1182689)
Flay sure keeps alot of money in his wagering account. If it were me Id probably notice at the last second and cancel the bet but wouldn't have enough time to enter the right amount and have no ticket :D

He went to bet the Belmont, saw his balance was well north of $100,000 and thought it was a mistake.. :zz:

jms62 06-08-2025 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1182691)
He went to bet the Belmont, saw his balance was well north of $100,000 and thought it was a mistake.. :zz:

Steve question that I know has a valid answer... Why could they not run those 2 cancelled races today ?

casp0555 06-08-2025 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1182692)
Steve question that I know has a valid answer... Why could they not run those 2 cancelled races today ?

Jim, the entry list is showing the Jaipur as the 12th and the Manhatten as the 13th on todays card....

jms62 06-08-2025 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1182694)
Jim, the entry list is showing the Jaipur as the 12th and the Manhatten as the 13th on todays card....

Thanks Billy.... My download didn't pick those up... I can use yesterdays data


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