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Obi-Wan 12-02-2006 04:11 PM

Who will win the 2007 Kentucky Derby?
 
There is no polling option here so please just respond with the name of the horse or number. You can add a small comment if you like. Please vote only one time. I will be combining this poll with the results from a few other sites where this poll is being postd and will give the public's opinion of who they believe will win in May next weekend. If you post on numerous sites it is ok to vote in each.

Your 11 choices are

# Name

1 Hard Spun
2 Street Sense
3 Tiz Wonderful
4 Nobiz Like Shobz
5 Circular Quay
6 Any Given Saturday
7 Day Pass
8 Minefield
9 Les Grands Trois
10 Pirate's Deputy
11 Other


Our choice of Hard Spun was the result of numerous factors but it was Chuck Zacney of Afleet Alex fame that gave him a slight edge over Street Sense.

"I got your Super Horse - I raced against him," Chuck Zacney, managing partner of the group that owned Afleet Alex, said this week, talking about a 2-year-old named Hard Spun who debuted at Delaware Park on Oct. 22, winning by 8 1/2 lengths. "I saw him in the paddock. He looked like a 3-year-old or a 4-year-old, not a 2-year-old. He was intimidating, and he showed it on the track."


Thank you and may the Force be with you.

Bendaredonedat 12-02-2006 04:25 PM

Stickin with Quay

The Bid 12-02-2006 04:26 PM

What
 
Absolutely other, no doubt about it

Bendaredonedat 12-02-2006 04:28 PM

i refuse to choose other

oracle80 12-02-2006 04:43 PM

Of those listed I like Nobiz Like Showbiz. I think hes still developing mentally and the Remsen was the absolutely perfect prep. He didn't have to run too taxing of an effort to win, yet it layed two turn foundation into him and answered the question about him going a distance. Hes a really nice horse.

zippyneedsawin 12-02-2006 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
Of those listed I like Nobiz Like Showbiz. I think hes still developing mentally and the Remsen was the absolutely perfect prep. He didn't have to run too taxing of an effort to win, yet it layed two turn foundation into him and answered the question about him going a distance. Hes a really nice horse.


Hard Spun is nice, but let's see him step up in competition before giving him a garland of roses.
I agree with O-man and No Biz looks good and has a lot of upside. Tiz Wonderful, Street Sense and CQ still rank right up there too. But if I had to choose right now, it would be No Biz Like Shobiz

The Bid 12-02-2006 05:32 PM

Noway does Albert the Great get a Derby winner. Never.

I was assulted in a bar for bad mouthing Albert the Great last winter in Miami

ateamstupid 12-02-2006 05:33 PM

I think Nobiz wins if he stays healthy and no total monsters pop up.

ArlJim78 12-02-2006 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Noway does Albert the Great get a Derby winner. Never.

I was assulted in a bar for bad mouthing Albert the Great last winter in Miami

Makes perfect sense to me.

The Bid 12-02-2006 05:50 PM

What that I was assulted or that Albert the Great cant win a derby :confused:

BellamyRd. 12-02-2006 05:53 PM

EX Box w/ the 3-5-11

ArlJim78 12-02-2006 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
What that I was assulted or that Albert the Great cant win a derby :confused:

that you would say that Albert The Great can't get a Derby winner because you were assaulted in a bar for bad mouthing Albert The Great.

ateamstupid 12-02-2006 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
that you would say that Albert The Great can't get a Derby winner because you were assaulted in a bar for bad mouthing Albert The Great.

I think the two thoughts were independent of each other, but neither made much sense.

The Bid 12-02-2006 06:21 PM

I think they both made sense. Albert the Great wont sire a Derby winner, because hes a brutal sire, and I was assulted for saying so

ArlJim78 12-02-2006 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
I think they both made sense. Albert the Great wont sire a Derby winner, because hes a brutal sire, and I was assulted for saying so

I don't know much about breeding, so I don't know what it means to be a "brutal" sire. But in this case, No Biz runs like he doesn't know who his sire is.

The Bid 12-02-2006 06:28 PM

He better never figure it out

ArlJim78 12-02-2006 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
He better never figure it out

You're rooting against a sire?

The Bid 12-02-2006 06:51 PM

No, I wish he were a good sire, hes just not.

Im rooting for the horse, I just dont think hell win the Derby, thats if he even runs in it

pweizer 12-02-2006 07:28 PM

Day Pass

Paul

31lengths 12-02-2006 08:03 PM

Circular Quay
Tizwonderful
No Biz

Danzig 12-02-2006 08:17 PM

sightseeing, for shug/phipps.

not really, but darn guys. it's december. we don't even know that any of these will make the field!

ArlJim78 12-02-2006 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
sightseeing, for shug/phipps.

not really, but darn guys. it's december. we don't even know that any of these will make the field!

we also don't know how many may be retired by May.

Danzig 12-02-2006 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
we also don't know how many may be retired by May.

hate to think that, but yeah, it'll happen.

well, luckily for us, they kept street sense out there. i mean, what more does he need to prove?

kentuckyrosesinmay 12-02-2006 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
Of those listed I like Nobiz Like Showbiz. I think hes still developing mentally and the Remsen was the absolutely perfect prep. He didn't have to run too taxing of an effort to win, yet it layed two turn foundation into him and answered the question about him going a distance. Hes a really nice horse.

See Mike, I do know a little bit about what I am talking about...lol. Sorry, I couldn't help myself:D ;)

The funny thing is that I'm changing my stance. As much as I hyped up Nobiz Like Shobiz and as much as I like Tagg, I've switched from Nobiz Like Shobiz to Asmussen's Tiz Wonderful for the time being. Of course, that will probably all change by the time the derby comes around. Nobiz Like Shobiz is my second choice.

Hickory Hill Hoff 12-02-2006 10:23 PM

In no particluar order:

6 / 5 / 4 / 2

and the "first Saturday in May" is a LONG way...away!

repent 12-02-2006 11:56 PM

can we please talk about who is going to win the Tropical Park Derby?
at least it is somewhat sooner.

of the ones listed,
I suppose Tiz Wonderful.
but the chances of even half of those making the starting gate on KY Derby day is remote.


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brianwspencer 12-03-2006 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by merasmag
why am i posting on this thread.....oh yeah......cause i'm drunk and bored...what are YOU selling obi-wan?

dude. wasted.

and street sense is my lock. im still praying that he will fail miserably leading up to the Derby leaving him double digit odds come Derby day

hockey2315 12-03-2006 12:29 AM

I saw Tiz Wonderful break his maiden at SAR and made alot of money off him on that race so I'll take him. . .

eajinabi 12-03-2006 02:27 AM

This will be Kiaran Mclaughlin's year to win it. I liked him for years and now he is in the big top now and he is going to make more noise in 2007.

Pedigree Ann 12-03-2006 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
No, I wish he were a good sire, hes just not.

At least as good as At the Threshhold, I would think. Look, Albert the Great's oldest foals will turn 4 in a few weeks. GOOD GRIEF! You can judge a stallion off of two crops who haven't even reached the age at which he showed his best form? What a wizard you are! Probably thought Dynaformer was a bust when his first runners were 3, too.

Danzig 12-03-2006 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
At least as good as At the Threshhold, I would think. Look, Albert the Great's oldest foals will turn 4 in a few weeks. GOOD GRIEF! You can judge a stallion off of two crops who haven't even reached the age at which he showed his best form? What a wizard you are! Probably thought Dynaformer was a bust when his first runners were 3, too.

hey, if danzig can get grief for being a 'disappointment', i guess ATG can as well....lol

no, seriously...i am amazed that some root against racehorses, but to root against a horse due to who his daddy is takes things a bit far imo. hell, he doesn't know who his father is! lol

ArlJim78 12-03-2006 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
At least as good as At the Threshhold, I would think. Look, Albert the Great's oldest foals will turn 4 in a few weeks. GOOD GRIEF! You can judge a stallion off of two crops who haven't even reached the age at which he showed his best form? What a wizard you are! Probably thought Dynaformer was a bust when his first runners were 3, too.

So you're saying its too earlier to label him as a dud or brutal sire?
I thought that seemed a little harsh myself since it seemed like I just started noticing his runners this year.

packerbacker7964 12-03-2006 08:51 PM

Quay and other seem to be leading the pack for me.

repent 12-03-2006 10:59 PM

ATG will do fine.

Its not like he was winning the Hopeful himself.
may take them time, but they will be runners.
probably will be just as effective on turf also.

as a racehorse, he is one of the most underappreciated I have ever seen.


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repent 12-03-2006 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Noway does Albert the Great get a Derby winner. Never.

I was assulted in a bar for bad mouthing Albert the Great last winter in Miami


from what I have read from you Bid, you are a good person,
but you deserve whatever you get for saying anything negative about Albert The Great as a racehorse.

I would like to buy the guy who kicked your as* a beer.lol

I know if I heard something insulting towards Albert The Great, all 135 lbs of me would be swinging.


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ManilaRose 12-03-2006 11:26 PM

I'd have to bet on other if it was 1/9 odds at this point.

kentuckyrosesinmay 12-03-2006 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManilaRose
I'd have to bet on other if it was 1/9 odds at this point.

Hey, I see you finally made it over here. Welcome.:)

Scav 12-03-2006 11:33 PM

You guys are all insane for even talking about this stuff already. It is 90% possible that we haven't even seen the Derby winner yet on track, especially with the way trainers want to train up to the race. If anything, the horse probably hasn't won yet. Lets start talking about it in February when they would have had to debuted and won by then to be considered.

repent 12-03-2006 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
You guys are all insane for even talking about this stuff already. It is 90% possible that we haven't even seen the Derby winner yet on track, especially with the way trainers want to train up to the race. If anything, the horse probably hasn't won yet. Lets start talking about it in February when they would have had to debuted and won by then to be considered.


totally agree,
except for one point.

history tell us that the Derby winner does need to run at the age of 2.
so we MOST LIKELY have seen the Derby winner run(althoght not neccessarily win) in 2006.

still way too early to talk about a winner of a race run 6 months from now.



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