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Indian Hemp 03-28-2024 09:01 AM

Venue for this weekend
 
A tough choice between OP and GP....weather is good for both....

Let's start with race 4 at GP.

cal828 03-28-2024 09:22 AM

Would you consider adding on the Arkansas Derby and making it 12 races?

Indian Hemp 03-28-2024 10:11 AM

I'll leave that up to the scorekeepers to approve.

Real Quiet 03-28-2024 10:15 AM

I'm up for adding the Arkansas Derby.

cal828 03-28-2024 11:29 AM

Thanks RQ and you too IH, if you decide to add it. It may be the Baffert show, but it is a prep for the KD so I think deserves our attention. With that said, I am a shameless promoter of my hometown track. :rolleyes::D. And with that said, I don't think that gives me any special advantage. The track usually gives me as much of a beat down as anybody else.

RUFFIAN 03-28-2024 11:48 AM

🏇🏇🏇🩷🏇🏇🏇

I Suggested Adding Arkansas Derby Originally
But Did Not Think The Idea Would Be Acceptd

Delighted The Suggestion Was Appreciated :{>: :) :{>:

cal828 03-28-2024 12:35 PM

RQ gave his approval, but I think we still need to hear from Digger. If he decides against it, that's ok. I will respect the wishes of the two score keepers. They are the ones that have to do the work.

Digger 03-28-2024 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1177686)
RQ gave his approval, but I think we still need to hear from Digger. If he decides against it, that's ok. I will respect the wishes of the two score keepers. They are the ones that have to do the work.

I'm not against this. Going ahead and add.
I will suggest all stakes contest involving Oaklawn and Gulfstream.
Races 6 thru 14 Gulfstream
Races 9 thru 12 Oaklawn

cal828 03-28-2024 12:57 PM

Thanks Digger. I appreciate that.:tro:

Digger 03-28-2024 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1177688)
Thanks Digger. I appreciate that.:tro:

You're welcome cal

JolyB 03-28-2024 01:36 PM

I appreciate the willingness of both of our scorers to add Oaklawn races. I know that it is extra work on your parts and we would be nowhere without you.

In all fairness, Indian Hemp ought to have the final call on moving from 11 races at GP and 1 at Oaklawn to Digger's suggestion that we do 9 stakes races from GP and 4 more from Oaklawn. We ought to follow our tradition of respecting the points winners' choice.

Is Digger's suggestion OK with you, IH?

RUFFIAN 03-28-2024 01:40 PM

Kind of interesting
In the past when I suggested ALL STAKES Day
~~~~~ ALWAYS REJECTED :(

cal828 03-28-2024 01:55 PM

IH has the final word on the subject and however he decides is fine with me. Digger and I were just making suggestions. I, for one, will bear no one any ill will no matter what the final decision is.

JolyB 03-28-2024 02:08 PM

I understand exactly what you are saying Cal. Your and Digger's suggestions are very constructive ones. I just didn't want any decision to be taken out of IH's hands. He earned it with a very strong points win.

Digger 03-28-2024 02:33 PM

My apologies if I made any suggestions that go against any of our rules that guide us through this contest.
I will honor play and score any decision that IH makes.

JolyB 03-28-2024 02:50 PM

We're all good Digger. There seems to be a little extra enthusiasm on everyone's part as we see the final round of Derby and Oaks preps. Hopefully it will even increase as the first Saturday in May gets closer.

I'll plan on posting the threads once Indian Hemp has made the final decision.

RUFFIAN 03-28-2024 05:22 PM

Question

Is G P R#3 Cutler Bay S
Included If We Do All Stakes

JolyB 03-28-2024 05:39 PM

I'm pretty sure it won't be. Race 3 was not mentioned in IH's original plan nor in any of the subsequent suggestions. The most recent 13 race proposal probably creates a full platter. But, as you must have gleaned from this thread, we are awaiting IH's final determination.

RUFFIAN 03-28-2024 05:41 PM

Joly

My confusion was the term ALL STAKES races
SO SINCE R#3 IS A STAKES
WHY WOULD IT NOT BE INCLUDED

Indian Hemp 03-28-2024 05:56 PM

And I would have suggested Dubai.

Where this takes the ROI is the ?

I've always been an advocate of all stakes....but....let's just focus on the now 12 race card with the Buffy Show added.

IH

Digger 03-28-2024 06:02 PM

I said all the term, all stakes in my suggestion comment before I saw that race 3 was stakes. I decided not to mention it in my race numbers to play. It wasn't consecutive with the others so I left it out. Still though I'll stick with the all stakes contest. Just not every stakes on the card.

JolyB 03-28-2024 06:04 PM

IH, I'll be glad to post the threads, but want to make sure I understand your intent. Do you mean your original call of GP Races 4 through 14 to which we now add Race 12 from Oaklawn, the Arkansas Derby?

Sorry for my being dense.

RUFFIAN 03-28-2024 06:05 PM

IH

PLEASE CLARIFY EXACTLY WHICH 12 .

WHEN I ADDED THE G P STAKES 6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14 PLUS
OAKLAWN 9-10-11-12 :eek:
I GET 13
What am I missing :eek:

Indian Hemp 03-28-2024 06:12 PM

My reply is that it would be the GP card starting with race 4 and adding the ARK Derby.

That's my decision based on a ROI perspective that has to include rolling exotics.

IH

JolyB 03-28-2024 06:15 PM

Got it. Thank you and sorry for any confusion. None of us wanted to step on your prerogative.

Indian Hemp 03-28-2024 06:19 PM

Not perceived as such.

After I win the Points this weekend we can discuss a SA-Aqu-Kee stakes card.

IH

JolyB 03-28-2024 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Hemp (Post 1177705)
Not perceived as such.

After I win the Points this weekend we can discuss a SA-Aqu-Kee stakes card.

IH

If you feel that way, I'm rooting for you to repeat.

RUFFIAN 03-28-2024 06:44 PM

💰 Roi Questiin 💰 For The Quiet 🤫 One

Are We Purrrrmitted To Include R1-2-3 Gp In Roi 🙏
~~~~~~~~~ Or Only R4–14

JolyB 03-28-2024 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN (Post 1177707)
💰 Roi Questiin 💰 For The Quiet 🤫 One

Are We Purrrrmitted To Include R1-2-3 Gp In Roi 🙏
~~~~~~~~~ Or Only R4–14


Yes, as we customarily handle it, you may include any race at GP in your ROI, but ONLY the Arkansas Derby from Oaklawn.

Indian Hemp 03-28-2024 06:50 PM

As I have chosen a single venue card that is usually permitted, although I will defer to RQ.

And therein is the conundrum of including multiple venues races in the ROI part of the contest. Rolling exotics withing continuous races would be the only wagers permitted. I would not accept asking RQ to score multiple venues.


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