Monmouth - Breeders Cup 2007
 

I have never been to Monmouth but the place looks beauitful on tv. For those who have knowledge of the track, would it be possible for you to answer a couple of questions and add any other type of info.

1) - What is the weather like in late Oct/ealry Nov?
2) - I just read on Bloodhorse where they only have about 13,000 perm seats. They are going to rely on temp seating. So I guess they will need about 50,000 temp seats. Do you know where these seats might be located?
3) - What are the lodging options?

Thanks in advance

Gorgeous place to go in the summer. Nice track to walk around in, weather is great then, its onthe Jersey Shore. Plenty of restaurants and bars along the shore to have a few in and get something to eat.
BUt I can't see myself going to this BC. There will be nowhere near enough seating, and I'm trying to imagine the backup on the road going in and out and seeing a nightmare.
Weather in late October can be ok, but it can also be cold and windy.
I have this one on the "watch at home" list of things to do.

There are trains that go right to the track.

Speaking of the BC and locations, isn't it quite late to have not announced 2008's location yet?
Seems to me that usually by now we would long have been told where it was gonna be.
Seems to me that it hasn't been held in Florida since 1999, and its probably long overdue to be held there. Thats my guess anyway.

From Saratoga?

From NYC.

I presume you can get there from Saratoga.

Watching at home. For you to miss a Breeders Cup that is relatively close to your home speaks volumes. The food and beverage was bad at Churchill, I wonder how Monmouth is going to handle the food and beverage. I would think they would need temp food stands. From TV, it just doesnt look big enough. But I could be wrong. Maybe this will be an event we decide to watch at home as well.

Thanks for the info.

Trains from where. Certainly, a train doesnt go from Indy to Monmouth. I wonder how far we would have to stay in order to catch a train. And man, what a horrible ride that would be with a bunch of cold, drunk people.

This really is an idiotic post....in case you're interested.

I found the food and beverage at Cd to be outstanding.

It is about a 90% chance the BC will be held at Churchill again in 2008. Belmont is about 8% and another location is about 2%. The Breeders Cup crew was in Louisville about 10 days after BC 2006 to work out the details. However, Churchill is wanting a bigger revenue slice for which the BC is not wanting to give. So they are at a stalemate on that issue.

Of course I am interested.

From Saratoga you can take Amtrak to Penn Station, walk across the station to NJ Transit and pick up the train to Monmouth. The traffic can be unbearable at times so I'll be taking the train that day.

It's a beautiful place, and I have a good feeling they'll pull it off; as far as lodging goes, there isn't much in the immediate vicinity so I'd recommend staying in New Brunswick, about a 40 minute ride.

Really. We brought our own food, but I waited in line for 30 minutes for coke and hot chocolate. Maybe it was just my location.

I actually find rides with cold, drunk people to be highly entertaining.
If I were able to gurantee such a trip to Monmouth, I'd definitely go!!

This may be the first time anybody has ever recommended staying in New Brunswick.

Why not Trenton? Ya know, what the world secretes Trenton eats.

I was being a wise ass, inside joke.

Well, it's only a 22.5 hour train ride from Indy to NYC. From there, it's another hour or so. So if you leave Friday at noon you'll be there in time for the first post... have fun.

If Trenton is that bad, how do you rate Hoboken? Nothing in the world could be as bad as Hoboken. They ought to just a big fence around it and turn it into a federal prison. Most of the people you'd want locked up live there already anyway.

LOL

P.S. For those that have never taken the train between Philadelphia and NYC, there's a HUUUUUUUGE sign in Trenton (a bona fide dump) that says "Trenton Makes the World Takes"

I assume he meant the cold and drunk people would be the ones he was leaving Indy with. Of course, that lot would be far more erudite than the northeasterners.

Whats wrong with hoboken? it's only the 2nd most expensive rent in the metro area.

You really need to get out more.

I was going to say. But you never know.

Perhaps he was on the trains after the '04 Belmont.

The shuttle bus I rode after the BC at Arlington contained nothing but freezing and drunk people, and I never laughed so hard in my life.
It was the single bright spot to the worst Breeders Cup I ever attended in every way, shape, and form.
Imagine going from Saratoga to Chicago and coming home and being asked if you had any fun, and replying that the shuttle bus was a blast.
The next one they run at Arlington they run without me I can tell you.

What happened at Arlington?

I couldnt imagine talking about car racing for 22.5 hours with drunk cold people from Indy. Mention the word "horse" and they start talking Penske and Honda motors.

I always used to laugh when I read that on the way home from Philly.

NJ in general is pretty crappy. There's a reason it's America's armpit..

What happened?
A fortune just to get in the place.
Freezing cold.
Those who were stuck outside told me of standing water in the restrooms, cold food, and cold coffee.
Rained and they had to scrape the track to make it fast.
No DRF's whatsoever available for the next day's races, you couldn't even buy one walking out.

I have to confess to resenting all of these anti-Jersey sentiments. Monmouth is a great park, Hoboken is an absolutely fantastic town, and there are lots of really great parts of New Jersey.

I can't defend Trenton, Camden, Newark, or the Amboys though. Not at all.

It has it's redeeming qualities... or at least that's what they told us at the State University of New Jersey.

I actually like most of New Jersey, outside of Newark, Camden, Trenton, Elizabeth, and the Rahway/Amboys/Linden corridor.

And the irony! The post I make defending Jersey takes me from Hippodrome Bluebonnets to....Monmouth Park!

Geez.....we drive up from Indy the wife got sick so we pulled off right outside of Gary, IN and got a hotel room. We watched the races and she got sick all night. The silver lining is that she got sick because she was pregnant. So I guess all in all it was a nice BC for me.

Traffic is an absolute nightmare on Haskell day, or any weekend during the meet for that matter since you get stuck in all the shore traffic. The crowds won't be flocking to the beaches in November obviously, so that should help to alleviate some of the problem. The lack of permanent seats will definitely be an issue. Despite the less than ideal setup, I will probably be there. I made the trip to Louisville this year so it seems silly if I don't make the short trip from Philly to a track I go to 5-10 times during its normal meet.

I also imagine there will be extra trains which will make it much easier.

I'll agree, I drove from Boston to Princeton for Thanksgiving, via 87/287 (or whatever kept me off the turnpike.) I went through some really lovely parts of NJ. I was surprised.

princeton is an absolute gorgeous school. i looked there but couldnt take being away from the so cal weather so i stayed and was a very small fish in a huge pond out here. cant say i drove through the state of NJ but what i saw in the surroundings of princeton was spectacular.

Yup, the whole city (town?) of Princeton is very nice. I drove past Gladstone too, the USET's got a great set up there, I had no idea there was so much nice NJ countryside.

Of course Princeton is nice. I was born there.