Empire Racing Offers Great Improvements
 

Horse and rider safety will be greatly improved by this far reaching proposal...
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36548

I'd say this group has stepped up to place itself right in the thick of things for the NYRA franchise.

They are rolling out their complete plan now. Extremely impressive.
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36591

As a friend of mine would say....



People really flocking to this thread.

Please don't get me started ok?
Its been obvious that Sumitas is a complete and total shill for Empire since the first posts went up months ago.
Newsflash to Sumitas.
If Nyra doesn't get it, Excelsior does.
Bomze/Perlee vs. Steinbrenner's son in law/Fields is a mismatch of epic proportions. Its the kinda thing Vegas wouldn't even offer a line on, off the board.

The plans as they now stand clearly place Empire at the forefront in the NYRA bid. it's not even close after the 2 recent blockbuster proposals by Empire.

Excelsior is clearly shaken and grasping for words.

I would like to suggest a quiet vacation for you....cause you're nuts.

Oh come on now!
You just figured that out?

and you wonder why squirrels look for you...ur nuts.

Actually this poster absolutely embodies the characteristics of most of the folks I've met who are Empire supporters.

I dont care who gets it. I just hope they dont do anything with the state bred program. I thinking about partnering with a group to buy a NY bred.

cool, you should be able to find a nicely bred horse at a reasonable price that can compete.

the best proposal far and away right now is empire. and there's more to come next week as Empire unveils a plan for breeding improvements in upstate NY.

are sumitas and that Revolution guy related?
they both are a little out of touch with reality.
Ive heard of thinking outside the box, but come on.


Repent

More from Empire today...
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36647

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36638

it will never happen..they can throw as much money as they want..the bottom line is keeping ny racing ..the way it is or at least ny haveing a say in what gets done..from what i read the lame duck recomendations mean nothing...nyra will keep it as it should be ..maybee under a diffrent name but still nyra ..at the core .who have and allways will bring us the best product ..ill bet deep in the money backing of empire the dark lords of poly are spreading money around..in hopes of taking down anouther multi track venue...

Yeah thats just swell.
Sumitas, you need help buddy, real help.
You are following behind a group led by Bomze and Brida?
LOL!!!!
Thats gotta be the funniest thing I ever read or heard.
See how it works is, if they take the high road you want the low road.
Ah, but you'll figure that out soon enough.

I am not privy to what you allude to. Judging substantively on the proposals, Empire's is the most far reaching, clearly.

http://www.saratogian.com/site/index...id=17708&rfi=8

Read this and wake up and smell the coffee.
You are obviously under some sort of voodoo spell.
Please note the part where they failed to commit to not raising seat prices or boxes. Its the same thing as saying that they will. Enjoy!!!

Good article. Actually i like the NYRA model if they could adopt the Empire safety and improvement plan for the tracks.

Come on Sumitas, doesn't it just give you the warm and fuzzies?!!
The dreamy notion that saratoga could soon have tripled or quadrupled seat prices and liscenses!!! Boxes being sold for 50 grand with all the old patrons kicked out of them?!!!
OH!!! And the workouts that for so long have been free to all fans and the greatest joy in all of saratoga(even better than the races) now being charged for!!!! Even a fee for picnic tables!!!!!
6 dollar hot dogs, 5 dollar cokes, 8 dollar beers!!! It will be just like the Derby everyday, except for the great racing!!!
Allowances being left for the cheapest possible claiming races(split divisions of course) so as to save on purse money expenses!!!
Luxury boxes all over the infield, obstructing the view of the races!!!
I'm tellin ya, life will be a dream(sha boom sha boom)!!!
You just don't get it do you?
NYRA has given fans a free ride with their low costs to witness the greatest racing in the world. Had they gouged and gouged like their rivals, they could have stockpiled enough cash to have never had any worries. But as not for profit they didnt do that, because it made no sense to do so.
NYRA has consistently put on the greatest year round racing of any circuit.
NYRA has been progressive to players(especially under Schwartz) in lowering takeouts displaying that they understood what drives parimutuel wagering and keeping players in the game.
Where were these folks at Enpire before they thought they could their mitts on slot money?
WHy weren't they proposing great changes then? KNow why? Because there was no money in it for them, thats why. They only cared when they thought they could make a bundle.
As A NY breeder you are twice as sickening and display no comprehension of what NYRA has done to support both breeders and owners and the economy of New York State. A record number of NY bred races will be run this year, reaping millions in breeder and owner bonuses and inflating the value of farms and ny breds. This money DIRECTLY flows back into the economy of New York State.
Obviously you are "part of the team"!!! How wonderful for you!!! Do you have little hats and buttons also? They will be real collectors items in a few years.

Ahhhh. So you think these 2 groups, Empire and Exelsior, are trying to pull a fast one on NY racing.

Excelsior less so. Excelsior joined in the process late because they saw it as a viable business opportunity.
They certainly haven't littered the papers with nonsense and phony accusations. They certainly haven't portrayed themselves to be anything that they aren't, a group that wants to run racing and make money.
The members are certainly more qualified with strong business backgrounds and actual accomplishments in the businesses that they run.
But fans will suffer horribly if NYRA is removed, horribly.
Costs of everything will go up, racing quality will go down, and the very folks who were clamoring agaisnt NYRA the last few years will sadly realize that what they had was much better then what they will get if either gets the nod.
Any educated fan understands that NYRA will provide the best choice for a progressive racing climate in NY, and to not hurt the fans with the burden of what the other two will call "progress".

Pull a "fast one" on the N.Y. politicians, which see $$$ and can't think clearly.

Repeat with me, "Don't change my Saratoga!"

Seek,
The funniest thing about the Empire Group is their "leaders". These guys should be wearing huge red shoes and white makeup(some already have the VERY red noses).
The sickest thing about them is that their "attacks" against NYRA border on delusional, and are filled with rampant distortions of the truth and flat out lies.
The anti NYRA folks fall within two categories 1) ignorant know nothings who quote(or misquote) some articles written by other ignorant know nothings. 2) people with their hands out or who are on the take hoping to get rich.
If you don't want saratoga to change, make sure you let your elected officials know that you support NYRA and will be one of the angry consituents looking to vote them out of office should they screw it up.

I plan on doing just that and have written to the Times Union already, pretty much saying what you have here.

Other than the meeting that Empire has stated they are holding, do you know of any other public fan-based meetings that are being held? Last week's Thoroughbred Times had an article about a fan based board that brings ideas to the track officials (I believe it was at Pimlico?) and that sounded like an excellent idea to me. In my view, and I understand it's not an easy job in managing them, but tracks are really missing out on the little things that will attract more patrons.

I'd be satisfied if NYRA got the franchise again. Fan wise it's a no brainer for the NYRA to win the bid.