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DonGuido 08-19-2021 08:40 AM

August 21 Del Mar ROI Wagers go here . . .
 
Big card at Del Mar to throw away, errr I mean cash in on some wagers. :$:

RUFFIAN 08-20-2021 01:01 PM

R O I = Radical Or Ingenious
 
MY CUPID CLAWS ARE SHARP
MY DOMINANT SOUL IN PLACE
BUT, WILL IT TAKE A MAGICIAN
FOR THESE PIX TO WIN A RACE

RACE #3
#7 = $24 WIN ( DOMINANT SOUL aka Alpha Mare )

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RACE #5
#12 = $16 WIN EL ( Kittens ) JOY

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RACE #8
#5 = $18 WIN ( GRAY MAGICIAN )

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RACE #10
#9 = $24 WIN ( CUPID CLAWS )
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#6 = $18 WIN ( MAGIC ON TAP WIZARD )

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SURF N TURF CATNIP QUICHE FOR THE QUIET ONE :{>:
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Roamin42 08-20-2021 03:53 PM

RACE 6

#2...LISETTE....$100 WIN

Real Quiet 08-21-2021 06:16 AM

Psssssst.... Don't anyone tell Joly

Mandatory Payout Saturday
Pick Six Carryover $1,874,996

cal828 08-21-2021 07:33 AM

Yep, I thought of him too, when I saw that. Almost an all stakes P6. He should enjoy that.

JolyB 08-21-2021 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Real Quiet (Post 1157211)
Psssssst.... Don't anyone tell Joly

Mandatory Payout Saturday
Pick Six Carryover $1,874,996

Heh,Heh,Heh:D:D:D

I know a goad when I see one.

Addendum: You guys are merciless. You must know that I can resist everything except temptation.
I've said in the past that our $100 bankroll really isn't large enough to do an adequate job of covering the pick 6 even at $0.20 per bet unless you have a solid single. Pre-scratches I don't see that single in this sequence. A run that might have a punter's chance would be 3x3x3x3x3x2, which costs $97.20. My real issue is with race 8, the only non-stakes race in the group, where I currently have my A and B lists narrowed down to 6 possibles. The only other run that I can see playing involves going 4 deep in race 8, which would allow going 3 deep in three races and 2 deep in the other two. That ticket feels shaky at best but scratches might make things work out. We shall see.

Real Quiet 08-21-2021 11:35 AM

All Del Mar

Race 2 $20 ex key 3 w 1-2-6 ($60)

Race 8 $2 tri key 1-2-5 w 1-2-5-6 w 1-2-5-6 ($36)

Race 11 $4 ex 5-6 ($4)

cal828 08-21-2021 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JolyB (Post 1157213)
Heh,Heh,Heh:D:D:D

I know a goad when I see one.

Addendum: You guys are merciless. You must know that I can resist everything except temptation.
I've said in the past that our $100 bankroll really isn't large enough to do an adequate job of covering the pick 6 even at $0.20 per bet unless you have a solid single. Pre-scratches I don't see that single in this sequence. A run that might have a punter's chance would be 3x3x3x3x3x2, which costs $97.20. My real issue is with race 8, the only non-stakes race in the group, where I currently have my A and B lists narrowed down to 6 possibles. The only other run that I can see playing involves going 4 deep in race 8, which would allow going 3 deep in three races and 2 deep in the other two. That ticket feels shaky at best but scratches might make things work out. We shall see.

The 7 in Race 6 might be a single, but there is a lot of speed signed on. The 6 in Race 7 might also be a single, but he is coming off a long lay-off. Race 10 is the tough one to me. 5 or 6 look like they could win it. Don't much like Arklow in the 11th which means he is a surefire winner.

RUFFIAN 08-21-2021 12:21 PM

Ridiculous Or Ingenious
 
As One Who Loves Grays + Longshots {{ Who BTW Often WIN 🏆}}

One Saying Rings The Bell 🔔 Of Truth

“NO SUCH THING AS A “SURE THING”

That is why I WON Mega $$$ on
Sarava @ 70/1 :eek:
Giacomo @ 50/1 :{>:
Thunder Gulch @ 26/1

Just To Name A Few Of My Betting Against A “Sure Thing “ 🙄

Indian Hemp 08-21-2021 12:44 PM

race 10

$100 Win

4

thanks RQ and good luck all

Digger 08-21-2021 02:02 PM

R6: forest caraway 4 ( show $100 )

DonGuido 08-21-2021 02:41 PM

Race 11:
$24 ex = $96

4w/3,5,8,10

Enjoy the day!!!

cal828 08-21-2021 03:07 PM

R6

20 cent P6

2,7//2,6//2,7//2,3,7//3,4,5//4,8,11=$43.20

R6 20 cent P6

4//2,6//2,7//2,3//4,5//4,5=$6.40

R7

$10 Ex 6//2,5=$20

R8

$15 Ex 2//1,7=$30

JolyB 08-21-2021 03:15 PM

They say when you sit down at a poker table and you can't see who the sucker is, it probably is you. I kind of feel that way in playing the pick 6, even with a large carryover and a mandatory payout. Just not enough coverage to be confident. But, here goes:

Race 6: $0.20 Pick 6 [big ticket] 1,4,7 / 3,6 / 1,2,3,7 / 3,4,7 / 3,4,5 / 4,8 $86.40

$0.20 Pick 6 [skinny ticket] 4,7 / 2 / 2,3,7 / 3,7 / 3,4 / 4,8 $9.60

Good luck to all and thanks to RQ for scoring.

JolyB 08-21-2021 03:16 PM

Welcome to the club Cal. Hope that we both hit it.:tro:

cal828 08-21-2021 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JolyB (Post 1157244)
Welcome to the club Cal. Hope that we both hit it.:tro:

Me too, but that would be pretty crazy.:eek: One thing about it, can't hit it unless you try. I maybe should have done a skinny ticket too. I may go back and do that, but really I'm kind of brain weary.

Plenilune 08-21-2021 03:37 PM

r5 $50 W #7

DMR10 $50 W #2

cruzan200246 08-21-2021 03:57 PM

Del Mar

R7. 5 Count Again 25.00 Place
R9. 8 Tetragonal 25.00 Place
R10. 9 Cupid's Claw 25.00 Place

Saratoga

R10. 7 Army Wife 25.00 Win

cal828 08-21-2021 08:22 PM

Well, I'm sure I'm wrong, but Independence Hall is surely better than 17-1. I think I'll put a couple of dollars on him. That'll stop him for sure.:zz::D

cal828 08-21-2021 09:54 PM

Nice payoff in the P6. 10K plus. I would have needed 6 deep to hit those last 2 and even then I'm not sure. You are right Joly. $100 not enough. Maybe we can try again on Breeder's Cup day. Turf races will likely be even harder though with all the Euros.

JolyB 08-22-2021 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1157304)
Nice payoff in the P6. 10K plus. I would have needed 6 deep to hit those last 2 and even then I'm not sure. You are right Joly. $100 not enough. Maybe we can try again on Breeder's Cup day. Turf races will likely be even harder though with all the Euros.

Very generous payday for those who were astute enough [or lucky enough] to have the last two legs. I can't blame our ROI budget for my failure to hit. I think that I would have been able to include Tripoli on a slightly broader ticket - happened to grade him a "C" and 4th or 5th on the depth chart. Astronaut in the finale is a different matter. Even if I had gone 5 or 6 deep in that race I don't think I would have included him. My hat is off for those who nailed it.

As for the BC pick 6, I know when I'm overmatched. Each of the BC races have too many contenders. For me to be comfortable with a BC pick 6 ticket, I'd probably need to go 6 or 7 deep in some of the races. Doing that can get very expensive very quickly.

Still, it was a fun exercise yesterday in between preparing for Henri.

cal828 08-22-2021 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JolyB (Post 1157308)
Very generous payday for those who were astute enough [or lucky enough] to have the last two legs. I can't blame our ROI budget for my failure to hit. I think that I would have been able to include Tripoli on a slightly broader ticket - happened to grade him a "C" and 4th or 5th on the depth chart. Astronaut in the finale is a different matter. Even if I had gone 5 or 6 deep in that race I don't think I would have included him. My hat is off for those who nailed it.

As for the BC pick 6, I know when I'm overmatched. Each of the BC races have too many contenders. For me to be comfortable with a BC pick 6 ticket, I'd probably need to go 6 or 7 deep in some of the races. Doing that can get very expensive very quickly.

Still, it was a fun exercise yesterday in between preparing for Henri.

It was pretty typical of my play in P6s. Usually get 3 or 4 right and miss a couple. I too might have had Tripoli, but thought I might have been making that race harder than it was by going deeper. Astronaut was tough to have for me too. As you said, it was an interesting exercise. Stay safe up there where you live.

RUFFIAN 08-22-2021 10:09 AM

Mrrrrrrrrrrrrrow
 
HINDSIGHT ALWAYS 20/20 :rolleyes:

Kickin Myself After Ignoring Having ASTRONAUT 👨*🚀 On My ROI List! :(
Then Choosing Others Instead :zz:

*** NOT THE FIRST TIME I’VE DONE THIS***

DonGuido 08-22-2021 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN (Post 1157314)
HINDSIGHT ALWAYS 20/20 :rolleyes:

Kickin Myself After Ignoring Having ASTRONAUT 👨*🚀 On My ROI List! :(
Then Choosing Others Instead :zz:

*** NOT THE FIRST TIME I’VE DONE THIS***

You may need to clean your crystal ball???

RUFFIAN 08-22-2021 12:56 PM

( DON = “ You may need to clean your crystal ball “
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OR….

IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF MY CATNIP 🐯 ;)


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