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Dahoss 05-17-2021 03:15 PM

NYRA Suspends Baffert
 
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.co...pends-baffert/

Conrad 05-17-2021 03:24 PM

Why didn’t Maryland do that?
Grow a pair and tell Bob to piss off.

moses 05-17-2021 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conrad (Post 1153335)
Why didn’t Maryland do that?
Grow a pair and tell Bob to piss off.

I don’t know but does Baffert even intend to enter any horses at NYRA tracks at any point in the immediate future (maybe Charlatan in the Met Mile or others on Belmont Day?) If not, the suspension is largely symbolic until more definite terms are attached to it.

Still, I applaud them.

ontheoutside 05-17-2021 04:25 PM

so nyrs bans baffert on monday 5 /17
 
if medina spirit wins preakness what is nyra doing on 5/17?
i d bet not banning bob baffert

Dahoss 05-17-2021 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 1153337)
if medina spirit wins preakness what is nyra doing on 5/17?
i d bet not banning bob baffert

I’ll take things that don’t matter for $500 Alex

Alabama Stakes 05-17-2021 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1153338)
I’ll take things that don’t matter for $500 Alex

$500 is not an option. Even numbers $200 through $2000.

RolloTomasi 05-17-2021 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1153336)
I don’t know but does Baffert even intend to enter any horses at NYRA tracks at any point in the immediate future (maybe Charlatan in the Met Mile or others on Belmont Day?) If not, the suspension is largely symbolic until more definite terms are attached to it.

Baffert has averaged about 4 or 5 starters on Belmont Stakes Day in the past several years.

This year, Charlatan, Gamine, Hozier, As Time Goes By, Defunded, and maybe Roadster could have conceivably started.

But the one that will hurt the most (if the ban holds) is probably Du Jour, who is primed for the big money in the NY Turf Triple.

moses 05-17-2021 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1153340)
Baffert has averaged about 4 or 5 starters on Belmont Stakes Day in the past several years.

This year, Charlatan, Gamine, Hozier, As Time Goes By, Defunded, and maybe Roadster could have conceivably started.

But the one that will hurt the most (if the ban holds) is probably Du Jour, who is primed for the big money in the NY Turf Triple.

So it’s not purely symbolic. Even better. I like that it applies to him and anyone employed by him. The practice of allowing assistant trainers to enter horses when the top trainer is suspended is one of the most ridiculous things in horse racing.

Du Jour might be a pretty nice horse. Not including him in my derby day pick 5 cost me around $3k.

Dahoss 05-17-2021 07:11 PM

Damned if you do....damned if you don’t I guess. If they don’t ban, they get criticized. If they do...the timing of it isn’t enough for people.

Tough crowd

moses 05-17-2021 08:00 PM

It’s been what — 8 days since the news was reported on Medina Spirit’s failed test? That’s not unreasonable.

And if they made this announcement before the Preakness, how much attention does it take away from that race? And how much does it undermine the Stronachs who determined he would be able to run horses there? Not that NYRA necessarily cares about them but it’s probably not the best idea to rain on the Preakness’ parade for no reason.

ontheoutside 05-17-2021 08:04 PM

no its not damned if you do
 
or damned if you dont,,have the balls to do it b4 the preakness,,pretty simple,,,you would have got the question wrong for 500 ny the way

King Glorious 05-17-2021 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 1153337)
if medina spirit wins preakness what is nyra doing on 5/17?
i d bet not banning bob baffert

I agree. There’s likely zero chance they would have banned a horse aiming for the TC.

Dahoss 05-17-2021 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 1153345)
or damned if you dont,,have the balls to do it b4 the preakness,,pretty simple,,,you would have got the question wrong for 500 ny the way

I missed your posts criticizing Pimlico for not banning him. Could you point me to them?

They’re banning him and losing the probable favorite for the Met Mile in doing so.

I don’t see why it makes a difference when it was done. It was done. I realize not everything is up to your lofty standards but the reality is it took a lot of balls to ban him, regardless of when it was done.

Dahoss 05-17-2021 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmfhb411 (Post 1153347)
Bingo.......NYRA didn't learn anything over the weekend

they didn't know on Thursday of last week.

Why does it matter though? Because it wasn’t quick enough for you?

Pimlico didn’t ban him. Santa Anita didn’t. Whether the intelligista of the board acknowledge it or not, banning the face of the sport is a ballsy thing to do.

ontheoutside 05-17-2021 09:23 PM

wrong again
 
nyra dropped the ball,,,,as did pimlico

Dahoss 05-17-2021 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 1153350)
nyra dropped the ball,,,,as did pimlico

Dropped the ball even though he didn’t run a race at a NYRA track over the weekend.

Makes perfect sense.

Alabama Stakes 05-17-2021 09:41 PM

Nyra played it cozy

Dahoss 05-17-2021 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1153352)
Nyra played it cozy

You’ve always been an unbiased observer.

Safe to say you’ve probably criticized NYRA over a hundred times on this board and who knows how often on the train wreck twitter account of yours. How many times have you given them kudos?

Over/under is 5 and I love the under. Not $20 win/place kind of love, but you get the point.

Dahoss 05-17-2021 10:00 PM

There’s nothing to put together and I’m not apologizing for anyone. You should apologize to the board for that ridiculous signature though.

They didn’t ban him fast enough for you. Who cares? The point is they did it. If you think it was an easy decision, I disagree.

That’s about it.

Dahoss 05-17-2021 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmfhb411 (Post 1153357)
someone other than you cares about my signature? :zz:

Oy vey

Alabama Stakes 05-18-2021 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1153348)
I missed your posts criticizing Pimlico for not banning him. Could you point me to them?

They’re banning him and losing the probable favorite for the Met Mile in doing so.

I don’t see why it makes a difference when it was done. It was done. I realize not everything is up to your lofty standards but the reality is it took a lot of balls to ban him, regardless of when it was done.

Bullying a 91 year old guy. You should be proud.

Dahoss 05-18-2021 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1153360)
Bullying a 91 year old guy. You should be proud.

I didn’t bully him and he’s not 91.

Like I said, if you’re right about something it’s purely by accident.

And you can’t even really blame the weed on what a colossal moron you are. From what I hear you’ve always been that way. You’ve gotten more vagina like as you’ve gotten older but always been a big dummy.

Alabama Stakes 05-18-2021 08:48 AM

Oh, he’s 94 now. My bad

Dahoss 05-18-2021 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1153366)
Oh, he’s 94 now. My bad

It’s his son posting dummy. Ask him.

Never right and never in doubt.

ontheoutside 05-18-2021 10:14 AM

i didnt mean my question to get everyone against eachother,,,but dehoss,,, when you say [the point is they did it] meaning they banned him
im simply saying
in my opinion,,, and only my opinion,,, i dont think the nyra would have done this had medina had won the preakness
thats all im saying
lets stop snipping at eachother we are all to good for that

and just for the record
when you see a post on here now it is me writing it the son
my dad is 95 ur right alabama
but is now in a nursing home after a bad stroke last year
he ended up with covid ,,stroked out and is now on a machine
sepsis and everything else we will be determining whats next as far as getting him off machine this coming friday
95 a hard life,, a crazy life, a life where he put family 1st above all, half a body,,, and a successfull bisiness man,,,i d say he lived a full life
sorry for opening up a can of worms with my opinion,, you guys
dehoss///alabama,, and all others on here are true horse guys that know a hell of alot more then i do
lets all have a great day the suns out im going to take a walk and decide on what is going to happen on friday
although i already have my answer,, just got to convince myself
something so easy you think ,,ends up being so hard
all be good

Alabama Stakes 05-18-2021 10:35 AM

Not surprising that he has such a good son. They don’t make them like him anymore. Good vibes from the Atlantic Ocean.

Dahoss 05-18-2021 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 1153371)
i didnt mean my question to get everyone against eachother,,,but dehoss,,, when you say [the point is they did it] meaning they banned him
im simply saying
in my opinion,,, and only my opinion,,, i dont think the nyra would have done this had medina had won the preakness
thats all im saying
lets stop snipping at eachother we are all to good for that

and just for the record
when you see a post on here now it is me writing it the son
my dad is 95 ur right alabama
but is now in a nursing home after a bad stroke last year
he ended up with covid ,,stroked out and is now on a machine
sepsis and everything else we will be determining whats next as far as getting him off machine this coming friday
95 a hard life,, a crazy life, a life where he put family 1st above all, half a body,,, and a successfull bisiness man,,,i d say he lived a full life
sorry for opening up a can of worms with my opinion,, you guys
dehoss///alabama,, and all others on here are true horse guys that know a hell of alot more then i do
lets all have a great day the suns out im going to take a walk and decide on what is going to happen on friday
although i already have my answer,, just got to convince myself
something so easy you think ,,ends up being so hard
all be good

And I’m saying it doesn’t matter what they may or may not have done.

moses 05-18-2021 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1153374)
And I’m saying it doesn’t matter what they may or may not have done.

Whenever someone hits a game winning home run in the bottom of the 9th, I wonder if these guys like to point out that it would have been more impressive if he hit a home run a couple innings earlier.

Dahoss 05-18-2021 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmfhb411 (Post 1153378)
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/t...expected-soon/

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/t...AVDT1YqFt4VJos

https://www.nyra.com/belmont/news/ny...ds-bob-baffert


Conclusion: the timing of taking action against both Rice & Baffert
on 5/17/2021 can NOT be legitimately viewed as coincidental.

NYRA gets credit for doing something that other jurisdictions should have before.
But a calculation was OBVIOUSLY made here.
They knew they had to discipline Rice, but knew they couldn't do so
if Baffert or any other trainer in similar circumstances had a TC within reach.
NYRA couldn't suspend Rice before Preakness Day and not do anything to Baffert.
THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO WAY TO EXPLAIN THAT.
Medina Spirit lost the Preakness.

NYRA jumped on the opportunity to take action.

Yet still, the bettors always come first........unless we don't.

NYRA didn’t suspend Linda Rice.

The NYSGC did. They are not the same.

Baffert and Linda Rice have nothing to do with each other.

Kasept 05-18-2021 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmfhb411 (Post 1153378)
Conclusion: the timing of taking action against both Rice & Baffert on 5/17/2021 can NOT be legitimately viewed as coincidental.

100% coincidental with the Rice ruling the culmination of years of investigation(s).

You can Listen to Alan Foreman on today's ATR (9:25-10:10) for further explanation of how these things work.



Dahoss 05-18-2021 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmfhb411 (Post 1153380)
fair enough, but you believe no one at the NYSGC and NYRA speak to each other.

Got it.

I have no idea if they do. Nor do you.

But I do know that one has nothing to do with the other. Medina Spirit possibly going for a Triple Crown has nothing to do with Linda Rice’s penalty for things she did YEARS ago.

There’s no connection. ZERO

Dahoss 05-18-2021 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1153381)
100% coincidental with the Rice ruling the culmination of years of investigation(s).

You can Listen to Alan Foreman on today's ATR (9:25-10:10) for further explanation of how these things work.



Don’t confuse things with the truth here please.


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