Breeders Cup Extras, Gallivan Cup Odds - 11/4 UPDATE
 

WORK IN PROGRESS!!! Patience grasshoppahs!!! :)

We lost our cable and internet during a windstorm yesterday. One of the downsides of living in heavily wooded area. Am posting this from a wi-fi hotspot. Cable company has "promised" restoration of the line by late tomorrow, so I'm still hoping to join in all of the BC festivities, albeit somewhat tardily.

Joly, and this has happened to you before. Was it Breeders Cup week then too?

I hope you don't have Suddenlink.

Top 10 Going for The 2020 Gallivan Cup

We each have a $100 bank roll to bet on who will win the Cup. You can make 4 wagers max (all on one player or split it up on several if you like) with you and they can only be win bets. Please make you Gallivan Cup player win bet wager below where it says "Gallivan Cup Wagers go here".

Odds to win The Gallivan Cup

1. Cal828: 3-1 Cal wins the handicapping year Points Trophy and although a little cooled off lately, he is a real winner
2. DonGuido: 5-2 Don ended the year with a THREEPEAT and has won the Cup several times, we'll see if he can do it again
3. JolyB: 5-2 Truly one our best all around handicappers, hasn't had too much luck going for the Cup but don't overlook him
4. Ruffian-333: 4-1 Well our Colorado Kitten is the "Wise Guy" bet to me, often in the money and is a proven winner
5. Real Quiet: 5-1 This guy is sneaky good and has also had success winning the Cup before, at pretty good odds too watch out
6. Plenilune: 7-1 This young lady, having a rough real life year, is capable for sure of nailing the Cup. She is all a "Wise Guy" bet
7. Roamin42: 10-1 Roamin's prowess is usually not the Points Contest but he can be looked at as a live long shot
8. Cruzan200246: 6-1 Cruz has had good success in the Points Contest this year, watch out for him to pull an upset
9. NJ Stinks: 12-1 We need NJ in the Points gateagain is a top ROI player but knows the horses probably better than most here
10. Indian Hemp: 10-1 IH, I hope he shows up in the Points gate too. Along with NJ he's tops in ROI Wagers

Gallivan Cup Wagers go here
Remember they are all win bets. And use the format I entered below for your bets. Forgot to mention that wagers on the Gallivan Cup players must be in by post time of Friday's Race 6 to be accepted.

DonGuido - $25 on Ruffian-333, $25 on Plenilune and $50 on himself

Back on line and ready to go. Don Guido, I always enjoy your morning line and linemaker's comments for the handicapping the handicappers contest. One again you have made the odds on me much too low considering that I seem to always pick the wrong Euro in most of the turf races and have never been successful in the Gallivan Cup competition. But thanks for the implied compliment.

In the past I've tried to come up with the actual odds once all wagers have been placed and to tabulate the payoffs after the winner has been announced. If you would like, I'll plan on doing the same again this year.

Yes IB, please do so on the odds. Thank you and good that you're connected again.:)

Yes JB, please do so on the odds. Thank you and good that you're connected again.:)

You wager on the players based on odds to win the Gallivan with you $100. Simple All win bets. Does that answer your brain freeze :D? We've done this every year for years. ;)

Gallivan Cup Wager
 

$50 Win Don G.//$25 Win Joly//$25 Win cal828

$25 Win Cal.// $25 Win Plenilune.// $25 Win Roamin. //$25 Win Real Quiet

Real Quiet-$25-Win
Ruffian-$25-Win
Cal828-$25-Win
Roamin-$25-Win

Cruzan $50 Win
Real Quiet $25 Win
Ruffian $25 Win

DonGuido $25
Plenilune $25
Real Quiet $25
Ruffian-333 $25

Cal - $30
JolyB - $40
Ruffian - $30

Purrrsnickety + Purrrfound

$50 = Ruffian
$25 = Cruzan
$25 = Roamin

Preliminary odds for the Handicapping the Handicappers contest:
#1 - Cal: 6.61-1
#2 - DG: 5.4-1
#3 - JB: 11.30-1
#4 - Ruff: 3.44 -1
#5 - RQ: 7.0-1
#6 - Plen: 9.66-1
#7 - Roamin: 9.66-1
#8 - Cruz: 9.66-1
#9 - NJS: - no wagering
#10 - IH: - no wagering

[done in a hurry - subject to review and revision - any comments welcomed]

I know that the odds are calculated on the amounts wagered on each player so I think that maybe Don G. and I should be reversed. I think that he should be 5-1 and I should be 7-1 as he had more wagered on him($125) than I did.($105) or am I wrong about that?

Considering my play today, maybe I should be 25-1. Hope I play better tomorrow.:wf:zz::D

Thanks for checking my calcs, Cal. In my haste to get the preliminary odds posted before going on to other things I put a $25 wager on Don in your column by mistake. Corrections have been made.

Thank you JB. Some day before I pass on you'll need to teach me who too do this, maybe?:D:confused:

And Other Stuff
 

Winners of the Points and ROI will receive a BC cup prize. :)

What is going on? Did anyone else notice that Ruffian placed a wager on the favorite? That should in itself be a cause for a DQ!

First question of the day - why wasn't Nashville running in the sprint? Either the track is really souped up for today, or else he would have dominated the BC race with a final time of 1:07.89. Seemingly without much effort.

Yes, I noticed that. Being my usual obsessive compulsive self, I also noticed that Don G's wager today is only $100, which I thought strange since I don't think he bet on Friday. Maybe he plans to add another bet later?

After digging a little more into Race 12, I changed my wager and got bold with a Tri Box and a $20 win bet. I see you picked him to win in your Points Picks. Interesting!?

I agree!!! DQ her and throw her in "I can't believe it" jail!!!;):eek::) Emojis are so she can't reply with more than 2 herself.

Let's be fair to our feline friend. Due to the quirks of parimutuel wagering, it was in large part due to her $50 wager on herself that she became, or at least remained the favorite. Ruff usually bases her wagers on the morning line, and in Don's morning line she was the 4th choice.

The track superintendant must have been working all night to soup up the track. The internal fractions and final times on the main track have been unbelievable. I know that these are fast horses, but speed has been carrying much more than it should. Track records have been broken left and right.

Time to change all of my tickets for any later races on the main track. Need to emphasize those with early gas; closers don't seem to have a fair shot.

Now that Plenilune has completed the scoring of our points contest for the Breeders Cup races, I can report on the results of Don Guido's annual Gallivan Cup Wager. In Don Guido's wagering emporium there is no takeout and virtually no breakage. Unfortunately for the winners, there is also no real money, just an annual game of handicapping the handicappers.

8 players participated in this year's contest. This year's results were a bit surprising in that the winner was the longest shot on the board at very generous odds of 11.3-1. Two players had the winner, and their payoffs are as follows:

Cal 828 wagered $25 to win and received a payoff of $308.

JolyB used the simple handicapping technique of wagering on himself with a $40 win ticket and received a payoff of $492 cyberdollars.

Thanks a lot Don Guido, for continuing this enjoyable handicapping exercise.