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Alabama Stakes 05-31-2020 09:21 PM

No NYRA on TVG
 
Anyone know anything about this ? You can’t go to the track or watch on TVG ? It’s so cool to be able to watch part of the race...then freeze frame a little, then see a little action on the turn, before freezing again till the Gallup out. At least the camera is usually on the winner so the suspense is gone.

Dahoss 05-31-2020 10:35 PM

LOL

Rupert Pupkin 06-01-2020 03:40 AM

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...V_turf_war_123

jms62 06-01-2020 07:16 AM

Is TVG through Roku considered an APP? I would probably bet not.

Konk 06-01-2020 08:25 AM

RTN - so far superior to anything else out there.

After a couple of months without TVG, I could NEVER go back to watching it again. Just pathetic for the most part.:zz:

FOX Sports has excellent coverage. And they give free PPs for the day. :tro:

TVG.....meh!

jms62 06-01-2020 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konk (Post 1138754)
RTN - so far superior to anything else out there.

After a couple of months without TVG, I could NEVER go back to watching it again. Just pathetic for the most part.:zz:

FOX Sports has excellent coverage. And they give free PPs for the day. :tro:

TVG.....meh!

TVG = Free

Dahoss 06-01-2020 08:32 AM

Yeah I mean a monthly subscription to RTN is $15 for every thoroughbred track and replays that go back to 2008. That’s .50 a day. You also get the FOX Sports coverage and can control what track feed you want to watch. All you need is a fire stick.

Seems like TVG doesn’t want to pay. Sucks for them.

Benny 06-01-2020 10:30 AM

Fyi Tv Schedule
 
https://www.nyra.com/belmont/racing/tv-schedule

Alabama Stakes 06-01-2020 11:20 AM

So it looks like on opening day from 2:20 to 4:30 if you're in New England you're not gonna get to see the races. TVG wouldn't submit to the shakedown.

ScottJ 06-01-2020 12:48 PM

There are two fundamental concepts at war here : racetracks owners vs. wagering platform owners. The racetrack owners have to win not only the battle, but also the war.

If an organization has both components, you can tell the parasite OTB and ADW organizations to take a hike. This includes everything from DRF, TVG, and more. As it turns out, Churchill/Twin Spires and NYRA/NYRA Bets are similar business models. Why make your signal available on TVG and encourage any wagering through their platform which does not flow directly to the Churchill/NYRA bottom line? I am applauding both Churchill and NYRA for getting this business model back in order. (Now, if we can get cooperation about post times, stakes races, and similar, we have a new paradigm.)

TVG has histroically been able to leverage a third component in the war, national video distribution, for a very long time. Without that chip in the game, TVG loses. What do they offer that is a differentiator? Nothing.

So, what's next? Stronach and TVG working together for a while - that is until the 1st.com betting platform gains strength and Stronach figures out that a national video platform is needed. That will come, you can be sure.

Hence, TVG will wind up representing those tracks without a wagering platform of note and national distribution. Examples : Tampa Bay, Lone Star, Fairmount, Finger Lakes, Fonner Park.

Dahoss 06-01-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottJ (Post 1138760)
There are two fundamental concepts at war here : racetracks owners vs. wagering platform owners. The racetrack owners have to win not only the battle, but also the war.

If an organization has both components, you can tell the parasite OTB and ADW organizations to take a hike. This includes everything from DRF, TVG, and more. As it turns out, Churchill/Twin Spires and NYRA/NYRA Bets are similar business models. Why make your signal available on TVG and encourage any wagering through their platform which does not flow directly to the Churchill/NYRA bottom line? I am applauding both Churchill and NYRA for getting this business model back in order. (Now, if we can get cooperation about post times, stakes races, and similar, we have a new paradigm.)

TVG has histroically been able to leverage a third component in the war, national video distribution, for a very long time. Without that chip in the game, TVG loses. What do they offer that is a differentiator? Nothing.

So, what's next? Stronach and TVG working together for a while - that is until the 1st.com betting platform gains strength and Stronach figures out that a national video platform is needed. That will come, you can be sure.

Hence, TVG will wind up representing those tracks without a wagering platform of note and national distribution. Examples : Tampa Bay, Lone Star, Fairmount, Finger Lakes, Fonner Park.

You better stop making sense.

Dahoss 06-01-2020 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1138759)
So it looks like on opening day from 2:20 to 4:30 if you're in New England you're not gonna get to see the races. TVG wouldn't submit to the shakedown.

Do you have a firestick or Roku or are you still pretending it’s 1965?

Alabama Stakes 06-01-2020 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1138762)
Do you have a firestick or Roku or are you still pretending it’s 1965?

Fire stick ? Like wooden matches ? No I have a zippo

Roku? Is that the guy who played Kono on Hawaii 5.0. ? Or is it some Pokémon thing ?

Dahoss 06-01-2020 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1138763)
Fire stick ? Like wooden matches ? No I have a zippo

Roku? Is that the guy who played Kono on Hawaii 5.0. ? Or is it some Pokémon thing ?

I know you don’t want to answer because it kind of exposes how silly this thread is....but I’m sure a high roller like you can afford 50 cents a day for a platform much better than TVG.

Kasept 06-01-2020 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottJ (Post 1138760)
So, what's next? Stronach and TVG working together for a while - that is until the 1st.com betting platform gains strength and Stronach figures out that a national video platform is needed. That will come, you can be sure.

Hence, TVG will wind up representing those tracks without a wagering platform of note and national distribution. Examples : Tampa Bay, Lone Star, Fairmount, Finger Lakes, Fonner Park.

Part of Stronach Group's holdings include signal aglomerator Monarch which manages the content negotiations for many of the 'independent' tracks. They have that relationship with TVG thanks to the remarkable deal they made when they foisted HRTV on them.

Alabama Stakes 06-03-2020 02:35 PM

I was just informed by the guy who makes the best ribs in Texas actually the best ribs in the world that professionals use hickory and amateurs use Mesquite of course I would be watching Belmont but it's not on TV right now because of the soccer match till 430.

Dahoss 06-03-2020 03:44 PM

Meanwhile those of us that aren’t eating paste three meals a day are watching on RTN where we can switch from whatever track feed we want and Fox Day at the Races.

It’s almost like you don’t want to watch your fake bets you post lose.

knickslions2 06-03-2020 04:32 PM

It’s refreshing to watch on the other channel except for that Andy guy. Rest of crew is fantastic and don’t have to listen to Caton Bredar bore us.

Alabama Stakes 06-03-2020 04:41 PM

Nice picture quality but I wish they use the pan shot from track. Maybe show the feet in the paddock .

Alabama Stakes 06-03-2020 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1138816)
Meanwhile those of us that aren’t eating paste three meals a day are watching on RTN where we can switch from whatever track feed we want and Fox Day at the Races.

It’s almost like you don’t want to watch your fake bets you post lose.

I bet there aren't 10% of the posters here that have rtn. You were pretty silent last week when I was lighting it up. When was the last winner you posted out here ? Oh yeah , you don't have winners anymore . Keep grinding though , maybe the magic will return. We are all rooting for you.

Dahoss 06-03-2020 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1138825)
I bet there aren't 10% of the posters here that have rtn. You were pretty silent last week when I was lighting it up. When was the last winner you posted out here ? Oh yeah , you don't have winners anymore . Keep grinding though , maybe the magic will return. We are all rooting for you.

Not sure why anyone wouldn’t have RTN. But the point, which flew right over that big stupid head of yours is there is a way to fix your “problem.” If you have a Roku or Firestick, or a laptop get a subscription to RTN. Problem solved for 50 cents a day. Or keep complaining about a non issue because you’ve had a NYRA hard on for years. That seems to be going well for you.

Not sure if you noticed but no one said anything to you after your “winners” because I’m sure like me they realize you don’t really bet. Such a wannabe. Frankly, with the exception of me mocking you, no one ever talks to you.

If you’d like I can have Steve or Andy verify for you how well I’ve been doing betting. Especially in the last few weeks. Not that I need to, but you seem so butthurt that I’m not spoon feeding you winners anymore, that it’d make my day for you to know what you’ve been missing out on.

Alabama Stakes 06-03-2020 08:25 PM

Are Steve and Andy taking your action ? Like I said, were all rooting for you.
Don’t forget about Mystic Guide.

Dahoss 06-03-2020 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1138840)
Are Steve and Andy taking your action ? Like I said, were all rooting for you.
Don’t forget about Mystic Guide.

There’s no we’re. No one likes you.

Would you like screenshots of my winners? How about you do the same? You really want to go there?

Alabama Stakes 06-03-2020 10:17 PM

Unless you post them before the race, no one gives a ****.

Dahoss 06-03-2020 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1138843)
Unless you post them before the race, no one gives a ****.

I’m not trying to impress anyone. But you said I don’t have winners anymore and I have proof that I have LOTS.

Can you prove that you made the bets you say you did? I’d lay 1/9 you cannot. You keep avoiding that point for some reason. Wonder why....

I’m cool with whatever credibility I have earned. You on the other hand are constantly trying to get some. Your corner should’ve thrown in the towel hours ago.

jms62 06-04-2020 07:19 AM

Does RTN show Entire Churchill, Belmont or Pimlico card on days like Kentucky Derby, Belmont, Preakness.

Dahoss 06-04-2020 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1138847)
Does RTN show Entire Churchill, Belmont or Pimlico card on days like Kentucky Derby, Belmont, Preakness.

Yes.

You literally have access to track feeds of every thoroughbred track, with replays for every thoroughbred track you want dating back to 2008. That package is $15 a month. You can also do the same for harness if you want but I’m not sure what that costs.

It’s not a show. But once you have a subscription you log in and your choices are live racing or replays. If you pick live racing, it takes you to a page showing all of the tracks running and you pick which track you want. You can switch back and forth to different tracks, etc.

They offer one day passes for $5 I think. Try it for a day. It’s been one of the better investments for be made.

They should be paying me for all of this advertising :D

jms62 06-04-2020 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1138849)
Yes.

You literally have access to track feeds of every thoroughbred track, with replays for every thoroughbred track you want dating back to 2008. That package is $15 a month. You can also do the same for harness if you want but I’m not sure what that costs.

It’s not a show. But once you have a subscription you log in and your choices are live racing or replays. If you pick live racing, it takes you to a page showing all of the tracks running and you pick which track you want. You can switch back and forth to different tracks, etc.

They offer one day passes for $5 I think. Try it for a day. It’s been one of the better investments for be made.

They should be paying me for all of this advertising :D

NJBETS gives Track Feed but it is annoying on Big Days they stop feed and you have to switch to NBC... All Tracks that interest me are HD on RTN... $165 a year cheap; really what 2 weeks worth of Burbon during house arrest?

Dahoss 06-04-2020 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1138851)
NJBETS gives Track Feed but it is annoying on Big Days they stop feed and you have to switch to NBC... All Tracks that interest me are HD on RTN... $165 a year cheap; really what 2 weeks worth of Burbon during house arrest?

Yeah my ADW shows all the track feeds too but I ran into the same problem you did on big days.

It’s funny, I found RTN because I was in a tournament on Easter a few years back and had no way to watch the races. I googled live track feeds and found RTN.

Alabama Stakes 06-04-2020 09:42 AM

I guess your ADW isn't Nyrabets, Who really pales in comparison to Expressbet.

Dahoss 06-04-2020 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1138851)
NJBETS gives Track Feed but it is annoying on Big Days they stop feed and you have to switch to NBC... All Tracks that interest me are HD on RTN... $165 a year cheap; really what 2 weeks worth of Burbon during house arrest?

I forgot to mention, RTN gives you track feeds of Australia, Hong Kong, Japan, UK, etc as well.

Kasept 06-04-2020 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1138847)
Does RTN show Entire Churchill, Belmont or Pimlico card on days like Kentucky Derby, Belmont, Preakness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1138849)
Yes.

You literally have access to track feeds of every thoroughbred track, with replays for every thoroughbred track you want dating back to 2008. That package is $15 a month. You can also do the same for harness if you want but I’m not sure what that costs.

It’s not a show. But once you have a subscription you log in and your choices are live racing or replays. If you pick live racing, it takes you to a page showing all of the tracks running and you pick which track you want. You can switch back and forth to different tracks, etc.

They offer one day passes for $5 I think. Try it for a day. It’s been one of the better investments for be made.

They should be paying me for all of this advertising :D

Almost yes.. The only cards RTN can't show live is Oaks/Derby when NBC has exclusive rights.

At the Races and RTN are offering players a free 5 day trial.. Sign up with RTNBYK.


Alabama Stakes 06-06-2020 01:06 PM

Big Saturday but no races on TV till 2:30. This is ridiculous. Let’s make it tough to see our product.

Kasept 06-06-2020 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1138964)
Big Saturday but no races on TV till 2:30. This is ridiculous. Let’s make it tough to see our product.

Started at 1p on MSG+.

Alabama Stakes 06-06-2020 02:04 PM

We don’t have that channel in New England. Since no one can watch it on tv, everyone is on the website so you can’t get a bet in because the site keeps crashing. It’s all about the money..... handle will be less with the races not on tvg . Funny the way people like to watch when they bet....

Kasept 06-06-2020 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1138976)
We don’t have that channel in New England. Since no one can watch it on tv, everyone is on the website so you can’t get a bet in because the site keeps crashing. It’s all about the money..... handle will be less with the races not on tvg . Funny the way people like to watch when they bet....

For years I lived where TVG was unavailable, so I never had any connection to it. And now even though I have it on my cable dial, I don't watch it.

I'd rather selectively watch track feeds (and now Roberts) more than anything else, including the network coverage.

Alabama Stakes 06-06-2020 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1138978)
For years I lived where TVG was unavailable, so I never had any connection to it. And now even though I have it on my cable dial, I don't watch it.

I'd rather selectively watch track feeds (and now Roberts) more than anything else, including the network coverage.

It’s just easy. The fox presentation is fine. The picture quality is amazing. They show cool angles. It’s an adjustment from seeing the pan shot, which everyone is used to seeing. But the 2 hour blackouts are killer. If they had every race every day, that would be awesome. People scrambling to watch the races crashed nyrabets . Lotta people saved money, some folks are sad they got shut out on winners through no fault of their own. Why not have as many people able to watch as possible ? They’re cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Dahoss 06-06-2020 03:02 PM

It’s weird, I haven’t missed a race because I have RTN and am able to watch whatever I want right on my TV.

It’s just as easy as putting on TVG, but then what would fake bettor Dan whine about then? He needs to whine to the person that told him a guy that resembles a gargoyle would look good with braids in his hair.

knickslions2 06-06-2020 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1138984)
It’s just easy. The fox presentation is fine. The picture quality is amazing. They show cool angles. It’s an adjustment from seeing the pan shot, which everyone is used to seeing. But the 2 hour blackouts are killer. If they had every race every day, that would be awesome. People scrambling to watch the races crashed nyrabets . Lotta people saved money, some folks are sad they got shut out on winners through no fault of their own. Why not have as many people able to watch as possible ? They’re cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Directv had all the races

Dahoss 06-06-2020 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1138987)
Directv had all the races

There are so many ways to watch a race now. Gargoyle just needs to whine about NYRA because Andy couldn’t get him concert tickets years ago.


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