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Plenilune 02-16-2020 06:24 PM

Points Results 02.15.2020
 
Fair Grounds R4

12 Auburn Hills
11 Free Spender
14 East Lex

Scratched: 2 15

R4: cal828 - DC BAX 17
R4: DonGuido ACX 15
R4: RUFFIAN-333 CAX 7
R4: JolyB XAX 2
R4: Plenilune XCX 2
R4: Alli XXX 0
R4: Real Quiet XXX 0
R4: Roamin42 XXX 0

Plenilune 02-16-2020 06:29 PM

Fair Grounds R5

3 Shake Some Action
1 Chestertown
1A Winning Impression
2 Sharecropper

R5: cal828 - DC BAX 17 34
R5: Plenilune ABX 25 27
R5: DonGuido XAB 5 20
R5: RUFFIAN-333 CAX 7 14
R5: JolyB XAC 5 7
R5: Roamin42 CBX 7 7
R5: Alli XBA 5 5
R5: Real Quiet XBC 5 5

Plenilune 02-16-2020 06:34 PM

Fair Grounds R6 Colonel Power S.

9 Just Might
2 Chaos Theory
1 Fast Boat

Scratched: 7 8

R6: cal828 - DC XXB 1 35
R6: Plenilune XXC 1 28
R6: DonGuido XAC 5 25
R6: RUFFIAN-333 XBC 5 19
R6: JolyB XCB 5 12
R6: Real Quiet XCA 5 10
R6: Roamin42 XAX 2 9
R6: Alli XXA 1 6

Plenilune 02-16-2020 06:37 PM

Fair Grounds R7

10 Chrystal Sphere
7 Verb
1 Mystic Guide

R7: Plenilune BAX 17 45
R7: DonGuido ACX 15 40
R7: cal828 - DC XXX 0 35
R7: JolyB BAX 17 29
R7: RUFFIAN-333 CBX 7 26
R7: Alli BAX 17 23
R7: Real Quiet CAX 7 17
R7: Roamin42 CXX 3 12

Plenilune 02-16-2020 06:44 PM

Fair Grounds R8 Albert M. Stall Memorial S.

4 She'sonthewarpath
2 Mitchell Road
5 Quick Witted

Scratched: 15 16

R8: Plenilune XAX 2 47
R8: DonGuido XAX 2 42
R8: cal828 - DC XCX 2 37
R8: JolyB XAX 2 31
R8: RUFFIAN-333 XAX 2 28
R8: Alli XBX 2 25
R8: Real Quiet XBX 2 19
R8: Roamin42 CBX 7 19

Plenilune 02-16-2020 06:46 PM

Fair Grounds R9 Mineshaft S. G3

4 Silver Dust
3 Gun It
11 Pirate's Punch

Scratched: 5 7

R9: Plenilune AXX 10 57
R9: DonGuido AXX 10 52
R9: cal828 - DC AXX 10 47
R9: JolyB AXX 10 41
R9: Alli AXX 10 35
R9: RUFFIAN-333 BXX 3 31
R9: Real Quiet CXX 3 22
R9: Roamin42 XXX 0 19

Plenilune 02-16-2020 06:49 PM

Fair Grounds R10 Fair Grounds S. G3

4 Factor This
2 Synchrony
3 Botswana

Scratched: 1 9 11 14

R10: Plenilune XCX 2 59
R10: DonGuido XAX 2 54
R10: cal828 - DC XAX 2 49
R10: JolyB XAX 2 43
R10: RUFFIAN-333 CAX 7 38
R10: Alli XAX 2 37
R10: Real Quiet CAX 7 29
R10: Roamin42 CBX 7 26

Plenilune 02-16-2020 06:51 PM

Fair Grounds R11 Rachel Alexandra S. presented by Fasig-Tipton G2

7 Finite
6 British Idiom
3 Swiss Skydiver

R11: cal828 - DC ABC 35 84
R11: Plenilune ABX 25 84
R11: DonGuido BAX 17 71
R11: JolyB ABX 25 68
R11: RUFFIAN-333 BAX 17 55
R11: Roamin42 CBA 20 46
R11: Alli CAX 7 44
R11: Real Quiet XBA 5 34

Plenilune 02-16-2020 06:53 PM

Fair Grounds R12 Risen Star S. presented by Lamarque Ford G2 (Part One)

9 Mr. Monomoy
8 Enforceable
2 Silver State

R12: cal828 - DC XCB 5 89
R12: Plenilune XAB 5 89
R12: RUFFIAN-333 BAC 25 80
R12: DonGuido XAB 5 76
R12: JolyB XAX 2 70
R12: Roamin42 XCA 5 51
R12: Alli XBC 5 49
R12: Real Quiet CBX 7 41

Plenilune 02-16-2020 06:56 PM

Fair Grounds R13 Risen Star S. presented by Lamarque Ford G2 (Part Two)

1 Modernist
7 Major Fed
12 Ny Traffic

Scratched: 2

cal828 strikes again with a repeat win! Plenilune runs second. RUFFIAN-333 lands third. DonGuido nicely rounds out the super.

1 cal828 - DC XCX 2 91
2 Plenilune XXX 0 89
3 RUFFIAN-333 XXC 1 81
4 DonGuido XCX 2 78

R13: JolyB CXX 3 73
R13: Alli BXX 3 52
R13: Roamin42 XXX 0 51
R13: Real Quiet XXC 1 42

JolyB 02-17-2020 07:18 AM

In honor of Presidents' Day, Gulfstream Park is running a series of starter handicap races that they have named after the nicknames of either former Presidents or, when the races are for fillies and mares, after former First Ladies.

The races are named: Little Magician, Trust Buster, Mary Todd, Lady Bird, Mrs. Presidentress, Rough and Ready, American Fabius, Sage of Monticello, Rail Splitter and Old Man Eloquent. There is also one allowance race since a race that was to be named the Old Hickory didn't fill. Quick, without using Google, how many can you identify?

Given the way that Cal has been dominating our points contests this year, it is a shame that they couldn't find a race to name in honor of our 30th President.:) By the way, Cal, that's my sort of feeble attempt to congratulate you on your win at the Fair Grounds on what turned out to be a real skullbuster of a card. Very nicely done. :tro:

cal828 02-17-2020 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JolyB (Post 1135108)
In honor of Presidents' Day, Gulfstream Park is running a series of starter handicap races that they have named after the nicknames of either former Presidents or, when the races are for fillies and mares, after former First Ladies.

The races are named: Little Magician, Trust Buster, Mary Todd, Lady Bird, Mrs. Presidentress, Rough and Ready, American Fabius, Sage of Monticello, Rail Splitter and Old Man Eloquent. There is also one allowance race since a race that was to be named the Old Hickory didn't fill. Quick, without using Google, how many can you identify?

Given the way that Cal has been dominating our points contests this year, it is a shame that they couldn't find a race to name in honor of our 30th President.:) By the way, Cal, that's my sort of feeble attempt to congratulate you on your win at the Fair Grounds on what turned out to be a real skullbuster of a card. Very nicely done. :tro:

Thanks. Have to venture some guesses at the names of the races. I've always loved trivia. I think Little Magician might be Madison. Trust Buster might be Teddy Roosevelt, but Rough and Ready might be too, but maybe that might be one of the military men that was President like Zachary Taylor?
Sage of Monticello has to be Jefferson. Rail Splitter has to be Lincoln. Have no clue who Fabius was or Old Man Eloquent. Maybe John Adams? Of course, Old Hickory everyone will know as Andrew Jackson. Mary Todd is Mary Todd Lincoln. Lady Bird is Lady Bird Johnson. Mrs. Presidentress? No clue. Maybe Martha Washington?

DonGuido 02-17-2020 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1135114)
Thanks. Have to venture some guesses at the names of the races. I've always loved trivia. I think Little Magician might be Madison. Trust Buster might be Teddy Roosevelt, but Rough and Ready might be too, but maybe that might be one of the military men that was President like Zachary Taylor?
Sage of Monticello has to be Jefferson. Rail Splitter has to be Lincoln. Have no clue who Fabius was or Old Man Eloquent. Maybe John Adams? Of course, Old Hickory everyone will know as Andrew Jackson. Mary Todd is Mary Todd Lincoln. Lady Bird is Lady Bird Johnson. Mrs. Presidentress? No clue. Maybe Martha Washington?

Trust Buster has to be Trump!!! No politics involved:eek::D

DonGuido 02-17-2020 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plenilune (Post 1135101)
Fair Grounds R13 Risen Star S. presented by Lamarque Ford G2 (Part Two)

1 Modernist
7 Major Fed
12 Ny Traffic

Scratched: 2

cal828 strikes again with a repeat win! Plenilune runs second. RUFFIAN-333 lands third. DonGuido nicely rounds out the super.

1 cal828 - DC XCX 2 91
2 Plenilune XXX 0 89
3 RUFFIAN-333 XXC 1 81
4 DonGuido XCX 2 78

R13: JolyB CXX 3 73
R13: Alli BXX 3 52
R13: Roamin42 XXX 0 51
R13: Real Quiet XXC 1 42

Cala 828 nails another ThreePeat. That very astute tri in Race 11, squashed any hopes for the rest of us.

cal828 02-17-2020 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonGuido (Post 1135123)
Trust Buster has to be Trump!!! No politics involved:eek::D

:tro: Well, it could be "the Great Prevaricator" or "The Great Equivocator" or maybe simply "The King," as he with great modesty and humility likes to call himself.:eek: I am just wondering whether it's too late for us to write a letter to the Queen and say we're sorry for 1776. She seems like a nice lady. Maybe she'll take us back?

JolyB 02-17-2020 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1135126)
:tro: Well, it could be "the Great Prevaricator" or "The Great Equivocator" or maybe simply "The King," as he with great modesty and humility likes to call himself.:eek: I am just wondering whether it's too late for us to write a letter to the Queen and say we're sorry for 1776. She seems like a nice lady. Maybe she'll take us back?

The Queen has spent too much of her reign overseeing the departure of former colonies to think about taking a troublesome one back. Besides, if we insisted that we have representation for our taxation, she would lose all interest.

I didn't mean to start a political discussion by my post. The current occupant of the White House is definitely not the answer to any of the questions.

DonGuido 02-17-2020 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1135126)
:tro: Well, it could be "the Great Prevaricator" or "The Great Equivocator" or maybe simply "The King," as he with great modesty and humility likes to call himself.:eek: I am just wondering whether it's too late for us to write a letter to the Queen and say we're sorry for 1776. She seems like a nice lady. Maybe she'll take us back?

I'd like to add to this but I'll keep my understandings or misunderstandings painfully evident on my Facebook narration, lest I rub some of my "Call To Post" friends feathers the wrong way. :rolleyes:

Where do you think we're off to next weekend, Cal?

DonGuido 02-17-2020 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JolyB (Post 1135128)
The Queen has spent too much of her reign overseeing the departure of former colonies to think about taking a troublesome one back. Besides, if we insisted that we have representation for our taxation, she would lose all interest.

I didn't mean to start a political discussion by my post. The current occupant of the White House is definitely not the answer to any of the questions.

No harm done JB, if anything I took it to the insinuated side of politics. i believe Cal and I were just having fun. Moving on to what we are all here for: Thoroughbred Racing. :)

cal828 02-17-2020 11:56 AM

I haven't a clue about the next venue. I was hoping all the not so great possibilities were behind us with all the derby trail races being offered most weekends. Not a lot of exciting stakes races this coming weekend. Gulf has a trio of sprint stakes. Maybe we will have to see which venue has some good supporting races. Gulf and Oaklawn always seem to have fairly full fields. Oaklawn's sole stakes is an Arky bred affair, I think which is about as bad as they get, but might have some nice allowances. I am open to suggestions.

DonGuido 02-17-2020 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1135132)
I haven't a clue about the next venue. I was hoping all the not so great possibilities were behind us with all the derby trail races being offered most weekends. Not a lot of exciting stakes races this coming weekend. Gulf has a trio of sprint stakes. Maybe we will have to see which venue has some good supporting races. Gulf and Oaklawn always seem to have fairly full fields. Oaklawn's sole stakes is an Arky bred affair, I think which is about as bad as they get, but might have some nice allowances. I am open to suggestions.

At times here we play an all stakes card using two tracks but no more than two (cost reasons for those of us that pay for PPs). Wasn't sure you knew we have that option.

JolyB 02-17-2020 01:12 PM

With a relative dearth of stakes races and surprisingly no Derby preps on the calendar, next Saturday might be one of those times to play a track that we normally wouldn't visit. Just a thought.

cal828 02-17-2020 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1135114)
Thanks. Have to venture some guesses at the names of the races. I've always loved trivia. I think Little Magician might be Madison. Trust Buster might be Teddy Roosevelt, but Rough and Ready might be too, but maybe that might be one of the military men that was President like Zachary Taylor?
Sage of Monticello has to be Jefferson. Rail Splitter has to be Lincoln. Have no clue who Fabius was or Old Man Eloquent. Maybe John Adams? Of course, Old Hickory everyone will know as Andrew Jackson. Mary Todd is Mary Todd Lincoln. Lady Bird is Lady Bird Johnson. Mrs. Presidentress? No clue. Maybe Martha Washington?

I think I got about half of these right which is a decent effort, but I won't spoil it for anyone else by saying which ones. I thought I might know one because of a book I read about the writing of the constitution by Ed Asner of Mary Tyler Moore fame. Who would have thunk that Mr. Asner would be capable of such a thing? Must admit that I had no clue about the American Fabian thing although after finding out who it was, it makes perfect sense.

JolyB 02-17-2020 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1135136)
I think I got about half of these right which is a decent effort, but I won't spoil it for anyone else by saying which ones. I thought I might know one because of a book I read about the writing of the constitution by Ed Asner of Mary Tyler Moore fame. Who would have thunk that Mr. Asner would be capable of such a thing? Must admit that I had no clue about the American Fabian thing although after finding out who it was, it makes perfect sense.

I thought that some of them were very interesting, but then again I've always enjoyed both trivia and American history, so when they are coupled together I'm all in. I'll post the answers later this evening to give anyone who desires more time to ponder.

Real Quiet 02-17-2020 03:36 PM

Congrats on the win Cal. As for next weeks venue the 29th could be Gulfstream if that matters to anyone. The other pickings next week are slim. Last year we were at Golden Gate but they changed their stakes schedule. Other than disliking every Gulfstream race going off late I have no preference. They haven't invented a track I can't pick losers at.

RUFFIAN 02-17-2020 03:53 PM

~ ~ ~ THE COLORADO QUIRKY CAT CHOICE :eek:
PURRRING FOR GULFSTREAM PARK THIS SATURDAY :tro:

At least for now until the cards are up for the other possibilities :zz:

Alli 02-17-2020 04:49 PM

Fairgrounds
 
I have come to the conclusion that I am not very good at this. :p It's fun, though....and no money lost, so....;)

JolyB 02-17-2020 05:01 PM

Hope that you hang in there Alli and don't get discouraged. This is a very tough game to learn, but the hope is that we learn a little bit each day and get a little bit smarter each year. Doesn't always work out that way. Mickey Rooney famously said that the first time he went to the races he lost $5 and then he spent the next 50 years trying to get even.

Alli 02-17-2020 05:31 PM

Love it!! I've been working at this for about 15 years...I think it's a habit now! ;)

My favorite was the trifecta. Won over $800 the first day I wagered on horse races at Del Mar...been trying to do that ever since....lol. I didn't even know what pp's were....just eyeballed the horses.

I can't wait for Colonial Downs to start up in the summer. That was fun! My son lives in San Diego, so I'm going to have to plan a visit while the racing is at Del Mar.

Can't wait to see where we go next! Have a good evening, everyone!

DonGuido 02-17-2020 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alli (Post 1135149)
Love it!! I've been working at this for about 15 years...I think it's a habit now! ;)

My favorite was the trifecta. Won over $800 the first day I wagered on horse races at Del Mar...been trying to do that ever since....lol. I didn't even know what pp's were....just eyeballed the horses.

I can't wait for Colonial Downs to start up in the summer. That was fun! My son lives in San Diego, so I'm going to have to plan a visit while the racing is at Del Mar.

Can't wait to see where we go next! Have a good evening, everyone!

Alli, it took me several years figure out some approach to the Points contest then it started working more often than not. My wagering is very iffy for sure, here and at the track. That's where the rubber meets the road so I continue to try harder on the ROI but rarely land anything. Frustrating!!!

Been doing this on one forum or another since around 2000. Besides affording my competitive soul a needed challenge every week, it's fun and helps to keep my "senior" brain alert as well.

JolyB 02-17-2020 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JolyB (Post 1135108)
In honor of Presidents' Day, Gulfstream Park is running a series of starter handicap races that they have named after the nicknames of either former Presidents or, when the races are for fillies and mares, after former First Ladies.

The races are named: Little Magician, Trust Buster, Mary Todd, Lady Bird, Mrs. Presidentress, Rough and Ready, American Fabius, Sage of Monticello, Rail Splitter and Old Man Eloquent. There is also one allowance race since a race that was to be named the Old Hickory didn't fill. Quick, without using Google, how many can you identify?

Here are the Presidents and First Ladies after whom today's Gulfstream Park races were named. Some were very obvious, while others were more obscure

Little Magician: Martin Van Buren, who had a number of nicknames due to his Machiavellian nature. He was also called the Sly Fox, and because the panic of 1837 occurred on his watch, Martin Van Ruin. During the campaign of 1840, the pro-Harrison song Tippicanoe and Tyler Too referred to "Van, the used up man".

Trust Buster: Teddy Roosevelt

Mary Todd: Mrs. Lincoln

Lady Bird: LBJ's wife

Mrs. Presidentress: Julia Tyler, who was President Tyler's second wife and the first woman to marry a President while he was in office. She was 30 years his junior.

Rough and Ready: more frequently called Old Rough and Ready. Zachary Taylor as a soldier was apparently ready to share the hardships of a military campaign with his troops.

American Fabius: George Washington. The reference is to a famous Roman general, who like Washington was able to engage in smaller battles without ever losing his army in a large battle. He could afford to lose a series of smaller battles to the British, but was always able to keep his ragtag army intact to be able to fight another day and ultimately achieve victory.

Sage of Monticello: Thomas Jefferson

Rail Splitter: Abraham Lincoln

Old Man Eloquent: John Quincy Adams, not for anything he said as President but for his long career in the House of Representatives after leaving the Presidency in which he made many speeches on the floor of the House advocating the limitation and then the repeal of slavery.

Old Hickory: Andrew Jackson

There are a couple of less complimentary presidential nicknames (in the 19th century) that could have been used. The ones that come to mind are His Accidency, referring to President Tyler's unexpected elevation to the Presidency after William Henry Harrison's death and His Fraudulence, referring to all of the unsavory back room deals that were made in 1876 that resulted in Rutherford B. Hayes becoming President.

Alli 02-17-2020 07:44 PM

Thanks for the cool history lesson!

cal828 02-17-2020 08:01 PM

You got to admit, I made some fair guesses. If points were assigned, I might have done better.:D I thought Madison might have been the "little magician" because I knew he was very short in stature. About 5'4". Good guess on my part on Zachary Taylor, but knew he was a military man. One of the heroes of the Mexican War I think. Almost guessed the Eloquent One also, but got the wrong Adams. Love trivia, but not as quick as I was at one time. My son and I watch Jeopardy together. He always beats me. Just don't have that immediate recall that I had at one time, but I think he just knows more than me too, but maybe I did my job by imparting a love of learning to him, even if it's just about trivial matters.


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