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Bogey 11-07-2006 07:16 PM

Vic Stauffer booted by Gulfstream
 
Larry Collmus? I know it was between them two in 2002. I guess he found out via E-mail, pretty weak IMO.

ArlJim78 11-07-2006 07:19 PM

Where did you hear this?

QUANROSS 11-07-2006 07:20 PM

Its on DRF

ArlJim78 11-07-2006 07:22 PM

got it. thanks.

always great when the employee finds out he is let go via e-mail.

QUANROSS 11-07-2006 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
got it. thanks.

always great when the employee finds out he is let go via e-mail.


No ****. Email? Gee, guess they couldn't be bothered to place a call to the west coast. Course, it IS Magna.:mad:

Scav 11-07-2006 07:28 PM

They obviously just want to turn it into a casino, I paid attention to there, thus played more wagers there because I like his race calls......

ArlJim78 11-07-2006 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
They obviously just want to turn it into a casino, I paid attention to there, thus played more wagers there because I like his race calls......

Dooley to GS, Vic to AP?
How about a straight-up trade?

QUANROSS 11-07-2006 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Dooley to GS, Vic to AP?
How about a straight-up trade?


I'd take that!

ArlJim78 11-07-2006 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by QUANROSS
I'd take that!

In a heartbeat!

brianwspencer 11-07-2006 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Dooley to GS, Vic to AP?
How about a straight-up trade?

arljim im dissappointed in you. you'd trade the game's most underrated caller for one of the game's most overrated callers?

sad sad day. I have already felt so lucky that Arlington had John Dooley and I love being at the park and listening to his calls.

matter of opinion i suppose :)

Scav 11-07-2006 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
arljim im dissappointed in you. you'd trade the game's most underrated caller for one of the game's most overrated callers?

sad sad day. I have already felt so lucky that Arlington had John Dooley and I love being at the park and listening to his calls.

matter of opinion i suppose :)

Sorry man, not trading Dooley for Vic, I would settle for them alternating races.....Vic should call Hawthorne

Danzig 11-07-2006 08:00 PM

all i can say is if i get fired by email, they better send to it to me in the evening, so i can sleep in next morning.

that's gotta suck tho. a 'dear john' letter from the office.

ArlJim78 11-07-2006 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
arljim im dissappointed in you. you'd trade the game's most underrated caller for one of the game's most overrated callers?

sad sad day. I have already felt so lucky that Arlington had John Dooley and I love being at the park and listening to his calls.

matter of opinion i suppose :)

Oh don't get me started!
Yes i find that i'm in the big minority on this but i don't like his calls at all or the sound of his voice. we've gone over it several times and i have went into details why. its just a personal preference. if i'm honest, i have to say he is one of my least favorite callers. he is accurate but i just find his calls goofy and he tries so hard to find strange ways to say simple things.

Left Bank 11-07-2006 08:44 PM

Wow,this is big news!But you know,you never know if you can EVER trust Magna.They screwed Michael Wrona when he was at Lone Star.For Vic,I am glad to see he is free of Magna entertainment.I bet TVG picks him up for the winter.He has done a lot of work for them before.

QUANROSS 11-07-2006 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmeastar
Wow,this is big news!But you know,you never know if you can EVER trust Magna.They screwed Michael Wrona when he was at Lone Star.For Vic,I am glad to see he is free of Magna entertainment.I bet TVG picks him up for the winter.He has done a lot of work for them before.


AMEN about Wrona. I love him and he was screwed royally.

RACING...

packerbacker7964 11-07-2006 09:08 PM

That's nothing my buddy's Boss came and got the company car on X-Mas Eve . What a way to go out.

QUANROSS 11-07-2006 09:15 PM

Nice!!!!!!!!!

brianwspencer 11-07-2006 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Oh don't get me started!
Yes i find that i'm in the big minority on this but i don't like his calls at all or the sound of his voice. we've gone over it several times and i have went into details why. its just a personal preference. if i'm honest, i have to say he is one of my least favorite callers. he is accurate but i just find his calls goofy and he tries so hard to find strange ways to say simple things.

fair enough, i must not have been around for the initial discussions.

but really though, when he says "up and on this gallop," for the longest time i thought he was talking about seafood because it sounds like he is saying "up and on this scallop."


mmmmmmm, seafood.

and yes, i will defend his worth as a race caller until someone better comes along. In all honesty, there is no one i would rather listen to calling races. durkin, stauffer, denman included. i think he's fabulous. really is a personal preference and i respect that :)

QUANROSS 11-07-2006 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
fair enough, i must not have been around for the initial discussions.

but really though, when he says "up and on this gallop," for the longest time i thought he was talking about seafood because it sounds like he is saying "up and on this scallop."


mmmmmmm, seafood.

and yes, i will defend his worth as a race caller until someone better comes along. In all honesty, there is no one i would rather listen to calling races. durkin, stauffer, denman included. i think he's fabulous. really is a personal preference and i respect that :)

Agree, bout' scallops. Just kidding. I really like him too.

ArlJim78 11-07-2006 09:55 PM

I mainly don't like the sound of his voice. he sounds like his nose is plugged up. i give you that he is technically good. but it's just an odd quality, like the races don't sound important when he calls them. it may be just me but that's how i feel. i don't know if i've ever had anyone agree with me. my opinion is also shaped by how he does the local preshows and the in between race announcements.

point given 11-07-2006 10:40 PM

tvg
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar
Wow,this is big news!But you know,you never know if you can EVER trust Magna.They screwed Michael Wrona when he was at Lone Star.For Vic,I am glad to see he is free of Magna entertainment.I bet TVG picks him up for the winter.He has done a lot of work for them before.

He's a natural for TVG and join the other blabbermouths. I am sooooo.. glad he will not be calling gulfstream. While he is overly enthusiastic in his calls, his habit of telling what the horse and jockey have to do turned me off. BTW, I think Durkin stopped those long winter holidays in Italy. Seems he's only gone a few weeks now, like the inner track time.

repent 11-07-2006 11:44 PM

terrible news, but yet another reason to despise magna.

Vic is the best in the game at calling a race.
someone mentioned Dooley.
hes one of the best also.
maybe we will see more of him on TVG now.

short list-
Vic
Denman
Dooley
luke k
wrona


Repent

disappearingdan_akaplaya 11-07-2006 11:53 PM

fukk stronach and magna!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nothing new coming from me tho. we had vic here for 1 meet in chicago@hawthorne right before he went on to bigger and better things, it was truly a pleasure to have a man whos as good a racecaller and as big a fan of the sport as he is calling the races here. brian, you missed out@arlington. before they closed for a lil bit in the 90's and were still called arlington international wrona was calling the races, arlington lost alotta its flare when he left. dooleys adequate but he didnt deserve the job when arlington reopened, kevin goemmer who was calling races@hawthorne and sportsmans did but instead he got screwed over and got his heart broke and left arlington altogether to never call races again. that is until a couple of years ago he was calling at turfway for a week or so one winter and one night after the races he had a heart attack in his car and passed away. rip kevin!

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by QUANROSS
AMEN about Wrona. I love him and he was screwed royally.

RACING...

Believe me when I tell you, Wrona WAS NOT screwed at Lone Star.....just trust me on that one - and this is coming from a guy who is friendly with Michael and not the biggest fan of Magna either....

He wanted Trevor type money in Dallas.....lets just put it like that. You would have laughed to know what he was making and what he wanted to call the races there....laughed...

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 08:27 AM

Dooley is not going anywhere...mark my words....I talked to him over the weekend and he is looking forward to going down to New Orleans for FG this winter...he is a company guy and his contract ties Arlington and FG together for CDI....he's not going to Gulfstream..

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 08:32 AM

They have already courted one guy who most of you know and then dropped him from consideration due to personal problems, and I have a pretty good feeling of who they are going after now. Something will break shortly.

Scav 11-08-2006 08:52 AM

This most likely has everything to do with the fact that Vic likes to go on TVG and works for the competitor also. NO OTHER REASON then that. That is fine, Vic is a good handicapper (fellow TG user) and I would pay attention to TVG if he was on there more often.....

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
This most likely has everything to do with the fact that Vic likes to go on TVG and works for the competitor also. NO OTHER REASON then that. That is fine, Vic is a good handicapper (fellow TG user) and I would pay attention to TVG if he was on there more often.....

He also carried a LARGE salary with him and I'm sure they will significanty pay his successor less....

ArlJim78 11-08-2006 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Dooley is not going anywhere...mark my words....I talked to him over the weekend and he is looking forward to going down to New Orleans for FG this winter...he is a company guy and his contract ties Arlington and FG together for CDI....he's not going to Gulfstream..

That certainly is no surprise. Didn't expect him to go anywhere, but that doesn't mean that I can't dream.

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
That certainly is no surprise. Didn't expect him to go anywhere, but that doesn't mean that I can't dream.

Hilarious :D ...he's a super cool dude, but most fans either love his style or hate his style....Personally, I wish he would tone down the adjectives but I don't mind the rest of his stuff.

Bigsmc 11-08-2006 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
I have a pretty good feeling of who they are going after now. Something will break shortly.

Richard Grunder?:D

ArlJim78 11-08-2006 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Hilarious :D ...he's a super cool dude, but most fans either love his style or hate his style....Personally, I wish he would tone down the adjectives but I don't mind the rest of his stuff.

he is a great guy, one of the nicest you will find.
i'm just one that doesn't like his calling style that's all.

I give him credit though for working at his craft. he does his homework and tries to add new things each year. sometimes he drops things as well.

point given 11-08-2006 10:09 AM

collmus ? Becker ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
They have already courted one guy who most of you know and then dropped him from consideration due to personal problems, and I have a pretty good feeling of who they are going after now. Something will break shortly.


Collmus needs a tan :D He is an accurate caller and nice guy, although his calls don't particularly excite me. Thats OK, he doesnot grate on you though like some others, like Vic does for me. Durkin and Denman are at the head of the race callers list, though some may not personally like their style. The guy from Keeneland (Kurt becker ?)would also be OK with me, he is accurate and doesn't get in the way.

ArlJim78 11-08-2006 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by point given
Collmus needs a tan :D He is an accurate caller and nice guy, although his calls don't particularly excite me. Thats OK, he doesnot grate on you though like some others, like Vic does for me. Durkin and Denman are at the head of the race callers list, though some may not personally like their style. The guy from Keeneland (Kurt becker ?)would also be OK with me, he is accurate and doesn't get in the way.

that's how I would describe Collmus, accurate, clear speaking, not real exciting but not grating either. I like him.

Coach Pants 11-08-2006 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
that's how I would describe Collmus, accurate, clear speaking, not real exciting but not grating either. I like him.

If Gulfstream hires Collmus the on-track handle is going to plummet. The snowbirds need a guy like Vic to wake them up so they can bet the next race.

point given 11-08-2006 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
If Gulfstream hires Collmus the on-track handle is going to plummet. The snowbirds need a guy like Vic to wake them up so they can bet the next race.

Hell , one of the reqs for the job is CPR certification ! ;)

ArlJim78 11-08-2006 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
If Gulfstream hires Collmus the on-track handle is going to plummet. The snowbirds need a guy like Vic to wake them up so they can bet the next race.

I agree completely that its a mistake to get rid of Vic, but it appears that that ship has already sailed and the question is who fills his shows.

but yeah it should be someone with some razzle dazzle to keep the locals awake.


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