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randallscott35 11-05-2006 11:24 AM

Daily News Does It Again
 
I wrote them the year Landseer broke down and they showed a blowup so graphic I almost got sick. They published my letter to the editor editing out the part about being a tabloid paper. Well here we go again, read the caption and remember this picture is a lot bigger in the regular paper. Why?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/st...p-394240c.html

Danzig 11-05-2006 11:36 AM

i wrote them a brief comment, probably do as much good as your letter after landseer.

randallscott35 11-05-2006 11:36 AM

I wrote another letter to the editor about it just now.

randallscott35 11-05-2006 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
i wrote them a brief comment, probably do as much good as your letter after landseer.


Danzig, the Landseer one was so bad, I couldn't imagine they'd do it again. Remember, this picture is showing her leg out of the skin here, in a blowup version in a color photo.

Byebyemermaid 11-05-2006 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
I wrote them the year Landseer broke down and they showed a blowup so graphic I almost got sick. They published my letter to the editor editing out the part about being a tabloid paper. Well here we go again, read the caption and remember this picture is a lot bigger in the regular paper. Why?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/st...p-394240c.html

And on the cover of NY Newsday today they have a picture of 2 mangled cars where 3 people died.Headlines sell papers Randall and they're in the business of making money.That's why they do it.

randallscott35 11-05-2006 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid
And on the cover of NY Newsday today they have a picture of 2 mangled cars where 3 people died.Headlines sell papers Randall and they're in the business of making money.That's why they do it.

That's a pretty cynical acceptance of this. See the difference is, the car crash "is" the story. A breakdown on BC is "a" story which absolutely needs to be told. But it doesn't need to be shown with a leg that badly damaged breaking the skin.

Danzig 11-05-2006 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Danzig, the Landseer one was so bad, I couldn't imagine they'd do it again. Remember, this picture is showing her leg out of the skin here, in a blowup version in a color photo.

i know...against my better judgement i clicked on the link and saw it. i knew they sugarcoated it yesterday when they said it was 'dislocated'. eight races, over a hundred horses ran...that not counting the undercard, and this is the one story they focus on.

Coach Pants 11-05-2006 11:49 AM

While I find their actions shameful and tasteless, I support their first amendment right to do so.

Danzig 11-05-2006 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
While I find their actions shameful and tasteless, I support their first amendment right to do so.

well that goes without saying, just like writing to them is me exercising my rights!

paisjpq 11-05-2006 11:52 AM

I just sent this...It means nothing in the grand scheme of things, but it made me feel better.

It is always a tragedy when a horse breaks down in a race. It is usually gruesome. It is heartbreaking for the owner trainer breeder groom and rider. That tragedy should NOT be compounded by insensitive and macabre photographs printed and distributed soley for their shock value.
The photograph in sunday's edition of your paper that shows the final struggle of a beautiful and courageous animal is beyond bad taste.
Pine Island gave all that she had on the track and suffered the worst possible fate, why would anyone want to subject her memory to furthur indignity? Her connections are some of the oldest and finest in the sport, they should not be repayed for their efforts by some tabloid news-type headline. Shame on you.
Sincerely,
Bethani White

Danzig 11-05-2006 11:53 AM

excellent letter!!

Cannon Shell 11-05-2006 11:55 AM

The horse is a NY horse owned by Big NY owners trained by a Big time NY trainer who ran her best races in NY and is based in NY. How can they not give it a lot of press. Not to mention the fact that the trainer who won the damn race was the trainer of the most famous broke down horse in recent memory? I hate the picture but it is a big story and they are in business to sell papers.
One of the pitfalls of the exposure that the industry craves is negative images that sometimes occur. We have to understand that the bigger the industry gets in the publics eyes, especially with the backing of ESPN, the more the focus will fall on the negative. It is not a horseracing problem, it is a society problem.

Downthestretch55 11-05-2006 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
That's a pretty cynical acceptance of this. See the difference is, the car crash "is" the story. A breakdown on BC is "a" story which absolutely needs to be told. But it doesn't need to be shown with a leg that badly damaged breaking the skin.

Randall,
I totally agree with you. That rag is shameless. It has been for many years.
They've published pictures of people jumping from buildings, mafia hits with dead human bodies, air crashes...on and on.
Shamless!
I'll never buy their paper. Their only "jounalism" is reliance on "shock".
Hopefully, this rag will go out of business soon. All we need do is stop buying their product.
They are certainly not doing anything to help build fan base for horse racing.
Boycott the Daily "News".
Toilet paper is cheaper and achieves the same results.
DTS

paisjpq 11-05-2006 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The horse is a NY horse owned by Big NY owners trained by a Big time NY trainer who ran her best races in NY and is based in NY. How can they not give it a lot of press. Not to mention the fact that the trainer who won the damn race was the trainer of the most famous broke down horse in recent memory? I hate the picture but it is a big story and they are in business to sell papers.

I take no issue with the written article what so ever...the photo is just another story. A symptom of a very sad and sick society that hungers to see this sort of gruesomness up close and in color. I understand it, but I don't have to like it.

Cannon Shell 11-05-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I take no issue with the written article what so ever...the photo is just another story. A symptom of a very sad and sick society that hungers to see this sort of gruesomness up close and in color. I understand it, but I don't have to like it.

I hate it too.

Byebyemermaid 11-05-2006 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I take no issue with the written article what so ever...the photo is just another story. A symptom of a very sad and sick society that hungers to see this sort of gruesomness up close and in color. I understand it, but I don't have to like it.

100% in agreement.The unfortunate thing is that society is that way now.I remember years ago they came out with this video "Faces of Death' which i'm glad to say i never viewed.It showed the killing of a monkey by bashing it's head which i was told,and other gruesome things i'm sure.Video stores couldn't keep it on there shelves to the point that the company that produced it came out with more of them.When the video on Al-Jazzeera came out with the first beheading i was told that people waited for hours to dowload it and view it.We have become so insensitive as a society

Downthestretch55 11-05-2006 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid
100% in agreement.The unfortunate thing is that society is that way now.I remember years ago they came out with this video "Faces of Death' which i'm glad to say i never viewed.It showed the killing of a monkey by bashing it's head which i was told,and other gruesome things i'm sure.Video stores couldn't keep it on there shelves to the point that the company that produced it came out with more of them.When the video on Al-Jazzeera came out with the first beheading i was told that people waited for hours to dowload it and view it.We have become so insensitive as a society

Mark,
Your last sentence says it all.
Just hold hope that those of us that remain "sensitive" are not viewed as "outside" of that society, but continue to bring awareness of the outrageousness of that "mentality", whether it be a beautiful race horse, or a "collaterally" (innocently killed child in Iraq, or a starving one in Darfur.
Blood thirst and "rubber necking" at car crashes on the side of the highway brings curiosity at the horror that others endure. Thank goodness it wasn't me mentality. It sells.
As a "society", the Romans remain our model. Applaud the gore of the gladiators as they murder each other running around the ring spewing blood.
Sad that we've come to that. Very sad.
DTS

ateamstupid 11-05-2006 01:24 PM

I'm a fan of the Daily News, but have to agree that printing that picture was in bad taste. Very bad taste.

sumitas 11-05-2006 01:52 PM

I believe that the big story yesterday was that breakdown. And it symbolizes all the breakdowns on dirt. I have no problem with that picture. Unfortunately it did happen and will continue to happen on the dirt.

Downthestretch55 11-05-2006 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Seriously, please do not use this as a poly advertisement. The big story yesterday was the fantastic racing. The sad story from yesterday was this. It's a newspaper, and they chose to focus on the bad, like most news organizations. Watch the nightly news, ever see any positive stories? They are few and far between. You are sicker than first thought if you have no problem with that picture. Think about the connections. Do you think they like the last picture of the filly that they bred, and loved to be of her falling with her leg snapped. Come on, have some compassion.

DaHoss,
I'll stand up for Sumitas in that he looks for safer racing for all the horses.
I do as well.
At times, the topic gets twisted to his deep concern.
Not that that's really about the Daily Rag selling newspapers...cause it's not.
In my humble view, Sumitas is very compassionate.
We just need to discuss this in the poly room rather than here.
OK?
DTS

Danzig 11-05-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
... Unfortunately it did happen and will continue to happen on the dirt.

oh come on--it's an issue with the sport itself. it's always going to happen as long as there is racing, whatever surface it's on. remember horatio nelson earlier this year?

Downthestretch55 11-05-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
DTS, this thread had NOTHING to do with poly. Sumitas, and his agenda brought it up. The picture was sick, and the fact he/she has no problem with isn't a good sign. This is the news, being the news. Fine, I get it, but this has nothing to do with poly, and it's just not fair to anyone involved to bring the agenda in here.

OK with me. I already said it belongs in the poly room.
All I was trying to say is that Sumitas hates horses breaking down as much as I do.
The picture was very sick, and I've already commented on it.
Let's get this thread moved to the poly room if that's where it needs to go.
I didn't bring poly to this thread, but in a way, I understand why Sumitas did.
RIP Pine Island.

randallscott35 11-05-2006 03:48 PM

This has nothing to do with the Poly room and shouldn't be moved anywhere.

Downthestretch55 11-05-2006 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Thank you. It really does have NOTHING to do with poly. It was about the Daily News.

I agree that this thread was about the Daily Rag photo.
Maybe Sumitas will comment, or better yet, start a thread in the poly room if that's where his thoughts go.
This thread should stay here and remain on the topic presented.

Downthestretch55 11-05-2006 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Well since you seem so interested in going to the poly room and talking about the breakdown yesterday go for it. I have a problem with the Daily News posting that picture. I understand why they reported it, but the picture isn't necessary. I also have a problem with Sumitas turning the situation into a poly advertisement, and his non chalant attitude toward the picture. Thats why I responded to what he said. Not really sure what your point is, because first you said it should be moved, now you are saying it shouldn't.

DaHoss,
All I was trying to say is that I thought I understood where Sumitas was coming from. I'll let him explain it further.
I've already said all I need to say about the photo (see above).
All I was saying is that if this was going to become a poly thread, that's where it should go.
Peace. And RIP Pine Island.
DTS

BellamyRd. 11-05-2006 04:45 PM

pretty much the same pic, worse imo (showed more)
in the Louisville C~J, so not just NY Daily News

sumitas 11-05-2006 05:14 PM

I am shaken by the breakdown. We just can't keep ignoring them. The picture shows the shocking end to a great animal. How brave they are and we must do what's best to prevent this.

Danzig 11-05-2006 05:41 PM

my husband picked up an arkansas democrat gazette for me today. i can't believe they chose to use this appalling photo as well--and it's their only pic from the day. i'm sorry, i don't understand it. nothing like focusing on the bad, rather than celebrating all the good.

Danzig 11-05-2006 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
I am shaken by the breakdown. We just can't keep ignoring them. The picture shows the shocking end to a great animal. How brave they are and we must do what's best to prevent this.

so because i'd just as soon not have THAT image burned into my brain, rather than say, her gazelle win, i'm ignoring it?? i don't think that's the case. some people try to accentuate the positive, doesnt' mean your head is in the sand when you do that.

Cannon Shell 11-05-2006 07:42 PM

Usa Today picked up the pictue on its web site

philcski 11-05-2006 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
I wrote another letter to the editor about it just now.

Yet another exampleo of why the Daily News is a piece of **** paper. Thanks for writing the editor, I will do the same- an article would have been enough, the picture was just poor journalism.

GenuineRisk 11-05-2006 09:36 PM

Thanks for starting this thread, Randall, and for everyone chiming in on which news sites have used the picture-- I normally buy all the papers the next day to read recaps of the races, but thanks to this thread, I knew which ones to avoid buying!

GPK 11-05-2006 09:43 PM

I read the NY Times at Starbucks every morning...they had a bad picture in there too...:mad:

repent 11-05-2006 09:48 PM

this is the liberal media.

they publish writings and photos that reflect negatively on the sport of horse racing.
they do not like our sport b/c they believe all animals should freely roam the streets eating out of garbage cans just like the human degenerates that make up the political party they support.

plus,
obviously most horse owners are Republicans b/c most successful Americans are Republicans.
its no surprise that the liberal media hates everything about the sport of horse racing.



Repent

Crown@club 11-06-2006 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35
I wrote them the year Landseer broke down and they showed a blowup so graphic I almost got sick. They published my letter to the editor editing out the part about being a tabloid paper. Well here we go again, read the caption and remember this picture is a lot bigger in the regular paper. Why?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/st...p-394240c.html

They did it also in the Evansville Courier. AGAIN! I remember the Landseer photo in the paper. It was quite sickening. I wrote to the paper. No response. I'm not bothering this time either. I'm just wondering why I didn't see a photo of Invasor in the winner's circle or winning at the line.

Side Note:
Repent is back true to form. That gave me a chuckle.

Side Note 2:
I'm a little sick of this crap, and this is all I'm going to say. "oh they're talking about poly, send it to the poly room. Steve send it to the poly room." This absolutely makes me sick. Its general horse racing discussion quit waisting a post about sending it somewhere else. You don't see anyone saying 'send this topic to the so-so place.' do you? Then stop it will this crap also. Steve, pais, ateam will be judge. Thank you!


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