Albertrani
 

Interview after the Classic lasted about two minutes. Whatever the question, his answer always congratulated the winner saying his colt got beat by a horse who ran a better race. Class act.

agreed, very classy. No sour grapes or excuses.

I actually think he was really surprised he finished 2nd, Bern looked like crap on the backstretch.......

What was he gonna say? I got outrun and outtrained? Because that is EXACTLY what happened on Saturday folks, exactly.
He had the benefit of Invasor "having a fever, LOL" and being forced to miss his last prep, while getting Bern his, and Invasor lost tons of ground on a track that was favoring rail running speed and Invasor blew by him with ease.
Kiarin fed him and the most sickeningly overglorified horse in history his nuts for dinner. It was truly a beautiful thing to behold.

More overglorified, relative to accomplishment, than circular quay?????

As was I. As soon as I saw Javy shake the irons I tore up my Pick 3 ticket. I nearly **** myself when he actually moved on the outside...

Maybe next year.

But as for Albertrani, in the past year I've grown to just admire and respect a lot of guys in the industry but maybe none more than Tom Albertrani and Edgar Prado.

we can debate whether or not Bern was overrated, but Oracle,
i think FuPeg will always own the title you just described.

hell,
that horse went off as the fav in a BCC also, and got beat by tons more.


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Oracle is the same guy who was gushing over Bernardini at Saratoga.......the best three year old he's seen in a long time. LOL Love those hypocrites.

Albertrani has more class in his pinky than ............fill in the blank. What does it say about someone when they get their jollies heckling a classy guy like Tom?

Mike can defend himself,
but anyone who thinks Albertrani did not get out trained needs to have their head examined.

Invasor overcame a clear bias and was much the best on Sat despite the layoff due to missed training time.
the trainer deserves credit for that.

and I say this as someone totally impressed with the year that Bern and Albertrani put together.

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you are typing and assuming a bunch of things about my comments that are incorrect.

are you Albertrani's shoe shiner or something?

stop reading things into my words that are not there.

Bernardini clearly did not run his best race of the year on Saturday.
invasor clearly did.
McLaughlin and his team had their horse ready.
that is what i typed.
stop getting so damn emotional about it.
you must be a chic.



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I am sort of consused here. Invasor is the one that got over to the rail before the first turn. Invasor raced inside of Dini the entire time until the final turn. Then he swung wider than Dini was running. The middle of the track where Dini was the worse. The inside rail was the best and then about 6-8 path was the next best. Not sure how Albertrani got out-trained. If losing a race means you got out-trained then every trainer got out-trained by 8 trainers. That is stupid to think. In addition, losing to a horse that has 9 wins, (now) 4 Grade I wins isnt that bad. Dini still beat 12 other horses rather easily.

I did not back up on anything moron.

I typed what I typed.

Invasor ran the best race of his year on Sat.
Bern did not.
trainer deserves credit for that.

to read anything more into what I typed is incorrect.

you are a moron.
read into that what you want.


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So the trainer is 100% responsible for how a horse is going to perform on any given day??? Come on brother--that is almost laughable to think. Maybe Dini was in a bad mood, maybe he had a headache, maybe he was scared--we have no clue what is going on in the horses head. But if you think it is the trainers fault because a horse doesnt run his/her best on a certain day then you need some help. These horses arent machines.

when you have the best horse in the race and get beat while running below his normal effort,
then yeah,
you probably got out trained.
everyone gets held accountable to their results.


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are you ppl seriously this freaking stupid?

I did not type that.
what the f*ck are you reading?


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Bernardini wasn't the best horse in the race.

Who said he was the best horse in the race? Apparently Invasor was the best horse in the race. If Dini was the best horse in the race then why even run the race!!!!! Again, he came in 2nd so how didnt he run his race. What happened to make you think he didnt run his race?

Oracle hasnt liked Albertrani since Songster screwed him over at the Spa when Court Folly won

Apparently you are the one that is stupid. If three people are reading and thinking the same then obviously you didnt choose your words carefully. Maybe you are pulling a John Kerry.

what did Albertraini do wrong?
his horse ran well below his previous efforts in the most important race of the year.
what were the reasons?
I dont know and I dont care.
but he is accountable, just as he was when Bern dominated at Saratoga and at Pimlico.
its his JOB to have the horse ready to run at his best.
everyone has bad days at their job, and Sat was his.


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no,
its 2 ppl.
you and DaHoss .

I typed what i typed.
you want to read more into it, then go ahead.
but you are incorrect.


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Again, how did he run below his previous efforts? What makes you think that? Is it because he came in 2nd??? Maybe Invasor ran above his head yesterday. Who knows---the point in this is that a trainer cannot get out-trained at this level. They only do what they can only do and the rest is up to the horse.

Sniper chimed in so I counted him/her as well.

yeah,
you are right.
Perfect Drift was.

whatever man.
maybe I should have typed that he had the best horse GOING INTO the race.
that would have been more accurate, but not changed the general point.


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on a different subject entirely though.

he is debating the merits of the horses, not trainers.


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you guys are freaking great.

in your world,
the horses just go out and run and whatever happens happens.
nobody is ever held accountable.

thats great.
would be great owners to train for I guess.



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That is fine. But based on merits how was Dini better than Invasor? I think this is opinoned based. But a horse with 8 wins and already crowned a champion, a year older and a 3 time Grade I winner is typically the better animal in a race.

The horse came in 2nd to Invasor. What else could Abertrani have done? Please enlighten us....what could have Albertrani have done to reverse the order of finish?

of course its an opinion.
thats largely what this entire forum is about.

if we all just copied and pasted events known to be fact it would be incredibely boring.


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He wasn't that either. Invasor had been running against tougher competiton and beating it on the same tracks at the same distance as Bernardini and was running faster times. Everyone thought "but Bernardini could have gone so much faster if he wasn't under a hand ride". Well guess what, we saw what happened when Bernardini had to be ridden hard and it was no better than he ran his other races. Considering his Beyer in the race and a bit of a tougher trip than in his other walks in the park the horse totally ran to the level he has been running all year. Invasor had been slighted all year and elevated his game when he needed to. And he beat Bernardini while going wider and carrying four extra pounds.

Bernardini most certainly did not run well below his previous efforts.
He destroyed a collection of the worlds best dirt horses save for one who only beat him by a length.
Invasor did not run any better than he normally does.
Invasor is as good or better than Bernardini,
The loss was just a loss and not a sign of a poor training job by TA.

have his horse ready to run the best race of his life.
thats what he could have done.
maybe he did that and the horse just did not fire.
but the point remains that McLaughlin had his horse ready to run his best race of the year on the biggest day of the year.

ppl are held accountable to their results.


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