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Bogey 02-20-2018 06:00 AM

Top 10 Derby Prospects
 
Top 10 Kentucky Derby Prospects as of 2/20/18

Horse - Sire - Trainer - Projected next race

1.) Free Drop Billy (Union Rags) Romans Fountain of Youth
2.) Solomimi (Curlin) Baffert San Felipe Stakes
3.) Bolt d’Oro (Medaglia d’Oro) Ruis San Felipe Stakes
4.) Good Magic (Curlin) Brown Fountain of Youth
5.) Audible (Into Mischief) Pletcher Florida Derby
6.) Combatant (Scat Daddy) Asmussen Rebel Stakes ?
7.) McKinzie (Street Sense) Baffert San Felipe Stakes
8.) Strike Power (Speightstown) Hennig Fountain of Youth
9.) Marconi (Tapit) Pletcher Fountain of Youth
10. Magnum Moon (Malibu Moon) Pletcher Rebel Stakes

Honorable Mentions: Catholic Boy, Sporting Chance, Tiz Mischief, Avery Island, Vino Rosso, Title Ready, Enticed, Mississippi, Mendelssohn, New York Central

knickslions2 02-20-2018 09:59 AM

Good stuff Gus. Looks like San Felipe and Fountain of Youth are going to tell us a lot. Are you going to Fountain of Youth? A few of us will be in Tampa that weekend if your interested.

Bogey 02-20-2018 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1106146)
Good stuff Gus. Looks like San Felipe and Fountain of Youth are going to tell us a lot. Are you going to Fountain of Youth? A few of us will be in Tampa that weekend if your interested.

Thanks, Tom - I Definitely plan on being at Gulfstream for FOY.

Hickory Hill Hoff 02-20-2018 03:42 PM

Being a big HO train enthusiast as a kid, I kinda like NEW YORK CENTRAL along the Derby Trail :p

RHT2004 02-21-2018 11:12 AM

I have Justify, McKinzie and Solomimi. Any order.

herkhorse 02-21-2018 07:05 PM

https://goo.gl/images/e8Yv3e

knickslions2 02-21-2018 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 1106161)

Lmao

casp0555 02-22-2018 03:22 PM

I truly love this forum.....:{>::D

Dunbar 02-24-2018 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1106159)
I have Justify, McKinzie and Solomimi. Any order.

Justify is definitely in my top 10, but that may be wishful thinking resulting from a rather large "All Others" bet I made into Pool 2 of the Future Wager.

Bogey 02-27-2018 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1106143)
Top 10 Kentucky Derby Prospects as of 2/27/18

Horse - Sire - Trainer - Projected next race

1.) Free Drop Billy (Union Rags) Romans Fountain of Youth
2.) Solomimi (Curlin) Baffert San Felipe Stakes
3.) Bolt d’Oro (Medaglia d’Oro) Ruis San Felipe Stakes
4.) Good Magic (Curlin) Brown Fountain of Youth
5.) Audible (Into Mischief) Pletcher Florida Derby
6.) Combatant (Scat Daddy) Asmussen Rebel Stakes ?
7.) McKinzie (Street Sense) Baffert San Felipe Stakes
8.) Strike Power (Speightstown) Hennig Fountain of Youth
9.) Marconi (Tapit) Pletcher Fountain of Youth
10. Magnum Moon (Malibu Moon) Pletcher Rebel Stakes

Honorable Mentions: Catholic Boy, Sporting Chance, Tiz Mischief, Avery Island, Vino Rosso, Title Ready, Enticed, Mississippi, Mendelssohn, New York Central

Top 10 prospects remains the same with 50 pts (winner) races starting with the Fountain of Youth this weekend. Reride (Candy Ride) for Asmussen impressed with a 91 BSF in Mine That Bird Derby on Sunday at Sunland Parks. There will definitely be a shake up next week as 4 on my top 10 are scheduled to battle in the Fountain of Youth.

goodcopy 02-27-2018 11:38 PM

Bolt @ 8-1
 
Easy money after that work, San Felipe, Santa Anita Derby, Kentucky Derby.
Can it be this good?:confused::zz:

tywizard 02-28-2018 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by goodcopy (Post 1106316)
Easy money after that work, San Felipe, Santa Anita Derby, Kentucky Derby.
Can it be this good?:confused::zz:

You’re willing to take 8-1 right now on a horse that had missed enough time to alter the original plan? And you’re basing it off a gate work in which he essentially blew the break?

freddymo 02-28-2018 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tywizard (Post 1106318)
You’re willing to take 8-1 right now on a horse that had missed enough time to alter the original plan? And you’re basing it off a gate work in which he essentially blew the break?

If 20 loaded in the gate tomorrow and Bolt was among them he would be close to 8/1 maybe more. Now you have to wait ten weeks, hope that the trainer that has not been on the Trail gets him conditioned for 10f's and 20 horses. Not for me.

Love the horse he is obviously VERY talented, but a lot of them are at this point

Bogey 03-06-2018 10:11 AM

Top 10 Kentucky Derby Prospects as of 3/6/18

Horse - Sire - Trainer - Projected next race

1.) Free Drop Billy (Union Rags) Romans Gotham
2.) Solomimi (Curlin) Baffert Rebel Stakes
3.) Bolt d’Oro (Medaglia d’Oro) Ruis San Felipe Stakes
4.) Audible (Into Mischief) Pletcher Florida Derby
5.) Combatant (Scat Daddy) Asmussen Rebel Stakes
6.) McKinzie (Street Sense) Baffert San Felipe Stakes
7.) Strike Power (Speightstown) Hennig Florida Derby
8.) Good Magic (Curlin) Brown Blue Grass Stakes
9.) Marconi (Tapit) Pletcher Wood Memorial?
10.) Magnum Moon (Malibu Moon) Pletcher Rebel Stakes

Honorable Mentions: Catholic Boy, Sporting Chance, Tiz Mischief, Avery Island, Vino Rosso, Title Ready, Enticed, Mississippi, Promises Fullfiled, New York Central

Good Racing Luck

freddymo 03-06-2018 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1106493)
Top 10 Kentucky Derby Prospects as of 3/6/18

Horse - Sire - Trainer - Projected next race

1.) Free Drop Billy (Union Rags) Romans Gotham
2.) Solomimi (Curlin) Baffert Rebel Stakes
3.) Bolt d’Oro (Medaglia d’Oro) Ruis San Felipe Stakes
4.) Audible (Into Mischief) Pletcher Florida Derby
5.) Combatant (Scat Daddy) Asmussen Rebel Stakes
6.) McKinzie (Street Sense) Baffert San Felipe Stakes
7.) Strike Power (Speightstown) Hennig Florida Derby
8.) Good Magic (Curlin) Brown Blue Grass Stakes
9.) Marconi (Tapit) Pletcher Wood Memorial?
10.) Magnum Moon (Malibu Moon) Pletcher Rebel Stakes

Honorable Mentions: Catholic Boy, Sporting Chance, Tiz Mischief, Avery Island, Vino Rosso, Title Ready, Enticed, Mississippi, Promises Fullfiled, New York Central

Good Racing Luck

Marconi had significant trouble in the FoY, that said having him in the top ten is a tremendous vote of confidence.

RolloTomasi 03-06-2018 06:54 PM

Top 10 Belmont Derby Prospects as of 3/6/18

1.) Analyze It
2.) Mendelssohn
3.) Catholic Boy
4.) Pubilius Syrus
5.) River Boyne
6.) Inscom
7.) Free Drop Billy
8.) Strike Power
9.) Flameaway
10.) Speed Franco

Honorable Mentions: Heck Yeah, Maraud, Hawkish, Justify, Combatant, Therapist, My Boy Jack, Instilled Regard, Mississippi, Reride

Bogey 03-13-2018 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1106493)
Top 10 Kentucky Derby Prospects as of 3/13/18

Horse - Sire - Trainer - Projected next race

1.) Solomimi (Curlin) Baffert Rebel Stakes - Flattered by San Felipe result. On the upswing.
2.) Bolt d’Oro (Medaglia d’Oro) Ruis San Santa Anita Derby - Gutsy effort off the bench, should only improve.
3.) Audible (Into Mischief) Pletcher Florida Derby - Impressive Holy Bull winner will have to validate.
4.) McKinzie (Street Sense) Baffert Santa Anita Derby - Seasoned and has the grit to go with it.
5.) Free Drop Billy (Union Rags) Romans Blue Grass Stakes?- Puzzled by Gotham entry, but could wake up going longer.
6.) Combatant (Scat Daddy) Asmussen Rebel Stakes - Model of consistency and will run all day.
7.) Strike Power (Speightstown) Hennig Florida Derby - Strong FOY performance and will need to step it up.
8.) Good Magic (Curlin) Brown Blue Grass Stakes - No shame in FOY defeat, next very important.
9.) Justify (Scat Daddy) Baffert Santa Anita Derby - Tremendous upside, Apollo curse?
10.) Magnum Moon (Malibu Moon) Pletcher Rebel Stakes - Makes stakes debut in loaded Rebel this weekend.

Honorable Mentions: Enticed, Catholic Boy, Sporting Chance, Tiz Mischief, Vino Rosso, Title Ready, Mississippi, Promises Fullfilled, New York Central, Marconi

Good Racing Luck

KD

RHT2004 03-13-2018 11:34 AM

My new top 4.
Any order.
Enticed, Justify, McKinzie and Solomimi..

goodcopy 03-13-2018 11:47 AM

Post San Felipe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1106319)
If 20 loaded in the gate tomorrow and Bolt was among them he would be close to 8/1 maybe more. Now you have to wait ten weeks, hope that the trainer that has not been on the Trail gets him conditioned for 10f's and 20 horses. Not for me.

Love the horse he is obviously VERY talented, but a lot of them are at this point

This colt improves going 9 to 10 furlongs, Derby(Santa Anita Derby) 2nd off the layoff and then 3rd off in Kentucky
I say this colt is being handled or managed just perfect.
I don't think Mick Ruis is getting the credit he deserves!
He his wife Wendy his daughter Shelby and their whole stable is what American thourobred racing is supposed to be about.
Taking care of the horse's ist then keep him active and training to a triple crown run:zz:

Bogey 03-27-2018 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1106143)
Top 10 Kentucky Derby Prospects as of 3/27/18

Horse - Sire - Trainer - Projected next race

1.) Bolt d’Oro (Medaglia d’Oro) Ruis Santa Anita Derby
2.) McKinzie (Street Sense) Baffert Santa Anita Derby
3.) Magnum Moon (Malibu Moon) Pletcher Arkansas Derby
4.) Good Magic (Curlin) Brown Blue Grass Stakes
5.) Strike Power (Speightstown) Hennig Florida Derby
6.) Audible (Into Mischief) Pletcher Florida Derby
7.) Solomimi (Curlin) Baffert Wood Memorial
8.) Justify (Scat Daddy) Baffert Arkansas Derby
9.) My Boy Jack (Creative Cause) Desormeaux Kentucky Derby
10.) Noble Indy (Take Charge Indy) Pletcher Kentucky Derby



Honorable Mentions: Enticed, Catholic Boy, Combatant, Promises Fulfilled, Free Drop Billy, Tiz Mischief, Vino Rosso, Mississippi, Mendelssohn, Marconi

March 27th

knickslions2 03-27-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1107282)
March 27th

Your top three look like horse that winner will come from. Much the best

Bogey 03-27-2018 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1107283)
Your top three look like horse that winner will come from. Much the best

They definitely look like they stick out at this point. The picture should get clearer with these 9 furlong preps. The Florida Derby could shake things up and 3 of the last 4 winners have gone on the drape the roses.

knickslions2 03-27-2018 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1107285)
They definitely look like they stick out at this point. The picture should get clearer with these 9 furlong preps. The Florida Derby could shake things up and 3 of the last 4 winners have gone on the drape the roses.

Agree that Florida Derby is interesting. Want to see if Audible can duplicate the last effort. If so will be a major player but wouldn't be surprised with a dropback. I liked catholic Boy before that last race but after that not sure anymore. Will need to see a much better effort this time. Not a believer in Promises Fulfilled but the FOY wasn't bad. I assume you will be there?

Bogey 03-27-2018 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1107286)
Agree that Florida Derby is interesting. Want to see if Audible can duplicate the last effort. If so will be a major player but wouldn't be surprised with a dropback. I liked catholic Boy before that last race but after that not sure anymore. Will need to see a much better effort this time. Not a believer in Promises Fulfilled but the FOY wasn't bad. I assume you will be there?

It seems the pace will be contested in the Florida Derby, unlike the FOY. I'm expecting Catholic Boy to take back and make a strong late run. Most of these runners are light on points (Audilble) and will have to fire their best shot to qualify or consider the Lexington two weeks prior to the Derby.

I'm still on the fence about attending with it being on Easter weekend.

Dunbar 03-28-2018 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1107283)
Your top three look like horse that winner will come from. Much the best

I like those 3, but I'd still gladly take the rest of the field in an even money bet.

Bogey 04-03-2018 07:35 AM

Top 10 Kentucky Derby Prospects as of 4/3/18

Horse - Sire - Trainer - Projected next race

1.) Bolt d’Oro (Medaglia d’Oro) Ruis Santa Anita Derby
2.) Magnum Moon (Malibu Moon) Pletcher Arkansas Derby
3.) Good Magic (Curlin) Brown Blue Grass Stakes
4.) Audible (Into Mischief) Pletcher Kentucky Derby
5.) Solomimi (Curlin) Baffert Arkansas Derby
6.) Justify (Scat Daddy) Baffert Santa Anita Derby
7.) Free Drop Billy (Union Rags) Romans Blue Grass Stakes
8.) Mendelssohn (Scat Daddy) O'Brien Kentucky Derby
9.) My Boy Jack (Creative Cause) Desormeaux Kentucky Derby
10.) Noble Indy (Take Charge Indy) Pletcher Kentucky Derby



Honorable Mentions: Enticed, Combatant, Promises Fulfilled, Hofburg, Tiz Mischief, Vino Rosso, Lone Salior, Marconi, Runaway Ghost

saratogadew 04-03-2018 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1107579)
Top 10 Kentucky Derby Prospects as of 4/3/18

Horse - Sire - Trainer - Projected next race

1.) Bolt d’Oro (Medaglia d’Oro) Ruis Santa Anita Derby
2.) Magnum Moon (Malibu Moon) Pletcher Arkansas Derby
3.) Good Magic (Curlin) Brown Blue Grass Stakes
4.) Audible (Into Mischief) Pletcher Kentucky Derby
5.) Solomimi (Curlin) Baffert Arkansas Derby
6.) Justify (Scat Daddy) Baffert Santa Anita Derby
7.) Free Drop Billy (Union Rags) Romans Blue Grass Stakes
8.) Mendelssohn (Scat Daddy) O'Brien Kentucky Derby
9.) My Boy Jack (Creative Cause) Desormeaux Kentucky Derby
10.) Noble Indy (Take Charge Indy) Pletcher Kentucky Derby



Honorable Mentions: Enticed, Combatant, Promises Fulfilled, Hofburg, Tiz Mischief, Vino Rosso, Lone Salior, Marconi, Runaway Ghost

No "Quip" love?

Bogey 04-04-2018 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by saratogadew (Post 1107591)
No "Quip" love?

Not sold after one good effort in Tampa Bay Derby, but will definitely be interested to see how he runs in the Blue Grass Stakes this weekend. Deep crop of talented horses this year.

Bogey 04-10-2018 09:42 AM

Top 10 Kentucky Derby Prospects as of 4/10/18

Horse - Sire - Trainer - Projected next race

1.) Bolt d’Oro (Medaglia d’Oro) Ruis Kentucky Derby
2.) Magnum Moon (Malibu Moon) Pletcher Arkansas Derby
3.) Good Magic (Curlin) Brown Kentucky Derby
4.) Justify (Scat Daddy) Baffert Kentucky Derby
5.) Audible (Into Mischief) Pletcher Kentucky Derby
6.) Solomimi (Curlin) Baffert Arkansas Derby
7.) Free Drop Billy (Union Rags) Romans Kentucky Derby
8.) Mendelssohn (Scat Daddy) O'Brien Kentucky Derby
9.) My Boy Jack (Creative Cause) Desormeaux Lexington Stakes
10.) Noble Indy (Take Charge Indy) Pletcher Kentucky Derby



Honorable Mentions: Enticed, Combatant, Vino Rosso, Promises Fulfilled, Hofburg, Lone Salior, Runaway Ghost, Quip, Bravazo, Flameaway

Secretriat34 04-10-2018 10:06 AM

[quote=Bogey;1107906]Top 10 Kentucky Derby Prospects as of 4/10/18

Horse - Sire - Trainer - Projected next race

1.) Bolt d’Oro (Medaglia d’Oro) Ruis Kentucky Derby
2.) Magnum Moon (Malibu Moon) Pletcher Arkansas Derby
3.) Good Magic (Curlin) Brown Kentucky Derby
4.) Justify (Scat Daddy) Baffert Kentucky Derby
5.) Audible (Into Mischief) Pletcher Kentucky Derby
6.) Solomimi (Curlin) Baffert Arkansas Derby
7.) Free Drop Billy (Union Rags) Romans Kentucky Derby
8.) Mendelssohn (Scat Daddy) O'Brien Kentucky Derby
9.) My Boy Jack (Creative Cause) Desormeaux Lexington Stakes
10.) Noble Indy (Take Charge Indy) Pletcher Kentucky Derby



Bolt D'Oro, might have had a chance had his trainer Ruiz, realized the San Felipe doesn't award roses. He had his work cut out for him to start with Daddy running fourth in 2002...he may place in 144. Good Magic may hit the board , he has the foundation, but doesn't seem to have the closing down the lane speed. Justify may hit the board, but does he have the foundation to run back against the best in 4 weeks without it (IMO)..like proven champions who have traveled the world winning in 4 countries such as Mendelsohn. Audible may hit the board, I like him over Justify. If Quip runs well next weekend , he
may step up to be considered ITM 144.

after the winners as Juvys are considered , who surprisingly , except for McKenzie, are still running..only a couple more who have stepped up thier game from 2017 and perhaps one who has no 2 year old credence seem to be probable for winning 144

Secretriat34 04-10-2018 02:22 PM

it sure would be nice to see a rabbit burn out Justify and his greenness in kentucky. Bolt couldn't catch him..he left his derby 144 in the San felipe.

Bogey 04-10-2018 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Secretriat34 (Post 1107912)
it sure would be nice to see a rabbit burn out Justify and his greenness in kentucky. Bolt couldn't catch him..he left his derby 144 in the San felipe.

Promises Fulfilled and Flameaway should be forwardly placed.

Bogey 04-10-2018 03:17 PM

I would like to see Irad stick with Free Drop Billy, as he seems the type that can add some value in the race.

freddymo 04-10-2018 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Secretriat34 (Post 1107912)
it sure would be nice to see a rabbit burn out Justify and his greenness in kentucky. Bolt couldn't catch him..he left his derby 144 in the San felipe.

Good luck beating Justify because of his foundation being built on straw supports. It's 2018, not 1988. this guy is the greatest dirt trainer ever, you really think a bruised hock is keeping Mac out of KD? He knows Mac has 0 chance v Justify and he knows Justify will be toast by June and Mac will be coming back for Haskell Travers when these other colts are toast. He is the best and knows horses better than anyone, he plays the game like Mozart played music.

Alabama Stakes 04-10-2018 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1107914)
I would like to see Irad stick with Free Drop Billy, as he seems the type that can add some value in the race.

He is going nowhere. Watch the replays of his last 2 and tell me why you think he has any shot.

cakes44 04-10-2018 08:34 PM

I don't think BDO wants any part of 1 1/4, despite his pedigree.

richard burch 04-10-2018 09:07 PM

The B.C. Juvenile Turf winner. I don't know who he beat in the UAE but Holy Shlt! What a performance. He doesn't have those long legs that you see on a turf horse. He is built low to the ground.

If he is the real deal this horse might come close to or beat the track derby record.

Mendelssohn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLT9PjeuTmQ

Secretriat34 04-11-2018 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1107920)
Good luck beating Justify because of his foundation being built on straw supports. It's 2018, not 1988. this guy is the greatest dirt trainer ever, you really think a bruised hock is keeping Mac out of KD? He knows Mac has 0 chance v Justify and he knows Justify will be toast by June and Mac will be coming back for Haskell Travers when these other colts are toast. He is the best and knows horses better than anyone, he plays the game like Mozart played music.

I originally thought after the San felipe, that Bob would skip the SA derby, and go right into 144 with Mac. However for him to skip the derby is not a ploy, but an injury. he my have skipped SA ...but the entire sport revolves around winning in Kentucky in May. for that reason , I have to disagree with your logic. He would not skip shipping to Louisville for 144 unless he was hurt

Secretriat34 04-11-2018 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by taxicab (Post 1107929)
Really good pic of this guy.
You're right about his build.
He looks like a quick miler.

HE LOOKS LIKE A CHAMPION..:tro:

THE 3 MILLION DOLLAR SALE TOPPER OF A CHAMPION...:D

RHT2004 04-11-2018 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1107924)
I don't think BDO wants any part of 1 1/4, despite his pedigree.

I'm with you.


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