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jnunan4759 08-24-2016 01:41 PM

TVG
 
Since switching over from HRTV, I'm surprised I can build a coin collection, have a hose that folds up and have a pan that you can burn cheese in and it won't stick. Every night I learn more. Plus I think they sell those jellyfish mind pills that will help my handicapping. I really don't need that because I have Paul Lo Duca making my tickets. I have a whole cast to make my tickets. It's like Hollywood Squares in the old days.

jms62 08-24-2016 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1074715)
Since switching over from HRTV, I'm surprised I can build a coin collection, have a hose that folds up and have a pan that you can burn cheese in and it won't stick. Every night I learn more. Plus I think they sell those jellyfish mind pills that will help my handicapping. I really don't need that because I have Paul Lo Duca making my tickets. I have a whole cast to make my tickets. It's like Hollywood Squares in the old days.

Would you rather they had no advertising and went out of business?

jnunan4759 08-24-2016 02:04 PM

At this point I probably wouldn't care less. I can get anything I want on the internet.Plus I don't have to suffer listening to them. I cringe every time I hear Kurt Hoover handicapping quarter horses.

declansharbor 08-24-2016 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1074716)
Would you rather they had no advertising and went out of business?

Wouldn't be the worst case scenario!

jnunan4759 08-24-2016 03:11 PM

I'm on nyra.com all day. The only time I turned on TVG was to see Winx run and I see some guy selling coins. The other night they split-screened coins and trotters and had the audio from the coins. Plus they put poor Hoover at Los Al doing QH. He's getting very good because he's hanging out with Les, but what a waste of a great talent.

Pants II 08-24-2016 03:27 PM

Thanks to Schrupp with his gratingly lame catchphrases I can no longer listen to "Loser".

And his brand of humor is obviously contagious to his co-workers.

I'd rather they hire Alec Cabacungan to replace Schrupp. He'd do a better job and he has a knack for sports statistics.

jnunan4759 08-24-2016 05:04 PM

It's a giant chuckle-fest geared towards driving uneducated bettors toward high risk, low reward horizontal bets. These are not for the casual bettor.

And they have a Pick 4 someplace else the next race. I watched one night and they rolled off about $1000 in Pick 4 tickets and never hit one. It's an ADW shill.

Paul Lo Duca was traded for Hee-seop Choi. And I'm going to play a pick 4 on his advice ? He spent 10 years in the minor leagues for god sake. He was an All-Star, but they have to pick somebody from every team. By his last year even pitchers were stealing on him. He may hold the record still for most stolen bases vs. a team.

He's ĺike this great baseball player. He got traded for Hee-seop Choi for gad sakes.

Apparently he's not playing any of his tickets because by now he'd be flat broke and standing outside the track with a paper cup.

jnunan4759 08-24-2016 06:03 PM

And Betfair, the owner of TVG is no friend of US racing. Both tracks they owned are Home Depots now. Losing Hollywood Park was horrible. They are booking the Monmouth wagering, but a leading UK jockey said it promotes crookedness.

Betfair is a scourge on our business. Think of how nice Hollywood Park was and then go to the Home Depot.

freddymo 08-25-2016 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1074748)
It's a giant chuckle-fest geared towards driving uneducated bettors toward high risk, low reward horizontal bets. These are not for the casual bettor.

And they have a Pick 4 someplace else the next race. I watched one night and they rolled off about $1000 in Pick 4 tickets and never hit one. It's an ADW shill.

Paul Lo Duca was traded for Hee-seop Choi. And I'm going to play a pick 4 on his advice ? He spent 10 years in the minor leagues for god sake. He was an All-Star, but they have to pick somebody from every team. By his last year even pitchers were stealing on him. He may hold the record still for most stolen bases vs. a team.

He's ĺike this great baseball player. He got traded for Hee-seop Choi for gad sakes.

Apparently he's not playing any of his tickets because by now he'd be flat broke and standing outside the track with a paper cup.

If you like LoDuca or not as a baseball player or handicapper, you cant fault him for doing what he obviously loves. "They" hired him, he has gotten better by investing in learning more and he certainly bets and is part of sport.

I would rather listen to someone who loves the game bets and is vested then many others. Look I get he isnt the best and TVG is awful 90% of the time, hopefully "they" are watching NYRA SPA Live and are realizing what players want and need. That said Saratoga live and for that matter the entire NYRA circuit has fairly unique advantages that allow it MUCH better programming.
How do you make a MDN 5 at Penn Nat interesting..You dont you show the race timely offer a good platform to wager on it and move on.

TVG did a MUCH better job with Pac Classic coverage IMO "they" have been watching NYRA and learned a bunch.

Pants II 08-25-2016 08:25 AM

I haven't watched every day this summer but from the days I have watched Lo Duca has been their best handicapper.

If I recall he's had a few top choices at prices and touted exactas.

And overall he's positive about the sport and it seems like he is trying.

Schrupp on the otherhand is bitter, negative, and often jaded and it seems like he just picks a longshot to be contrarian in spite of how ridiculous he looks after the fact.

They don't need that. He's been there far too long. At the very least he should be demoted to B team.

RolloTomasi 08-25-2016 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1074791)
If you like LoDuca or not as a baseball player or handicapper, you cant fault him for doing what he obviously loves. "They" hired him, he has gotten better by investing in learning more and he certainly bets and is part of sport.

I would rather listen to someone who loves the game bets and is vested then many others. Look I get he isnt the best and TVG is awful 90% of the time, hopefully "they" are watching NYRA SPA Live and are realizing what players want and need. That said Saratoga live and for that matter the entire NYRA circuit has fairly unique advantages that allow it MUCH better programming.
How do you make a MDN 5 at Penn Nat interesting..You dont you show the race timely offer a good platform to wager on it and move on.

TVG did a MUCH better job with Pac Classic coverage IMO "they" have been watching NYRA and learned a bunch.

This Thread 2016:

freddymo - 72 BSF
jnunan4759 - 113

Pants II 08-25-2016 08:38 AM

jnunan is obviously a Baffert runner.

:D

10 pnt move up 08-25-2016 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1074748)
It's a giant chuckle-fest geared towards driving uneducated bettors toward high risk, low reward horizontal bets. These are not for the casual bettor.

And they have a Pick 4 someplace else the next race. I watched one night and they rolled off about $1000 in Pick 4 tickets and never hit one. It's an ADW shill.

Paul Lo Duca was traded for Hee-seop Choi. And I'm going to play a pick 4 on his advice ? He spent 10 years in the minor leagues for god sake. He was an All-Star, but they have to pick somebody from every team. By his last year even pitchers were stealing on him. He may hold the record still for most stolen bases vs. a team.

He's ĺike this great baseball player. He got traded for Hee-seop Choi for gad sakes.

Apparently he's not playing any of his tickets because by now he'd be flat broke and standing outside the track with a paper cup.

What was he like taken in the 95th round of the draft? He was supposed to be a nobody instead became a somebody. Conflating his baseball career to his ability on TVG is like using Ronald Reagan's acting career to criticize his presidency.

Alabama Stakes 08-25-2016 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1074806)
What was he like taken in the 95th round of the draft? He was supposed to be a nobody instead became a somebody. Conflating his baseball career to his ability on TVG is like using Ronald Reagan's acting career to criticize his presidency.

Why must we hear 4 time major league all-star every ****ing time this nitwit has his game mentioned ?

I'm surprised they don't have Thick Vic Stauffer on the team too. That would be the dream team of self important ninnies

jms62 08-25-2016 09:36 AM

Everyone gets so worked up... I watch a ballgame until post time of my race and switch over. It is not like I am going to change my opinion based upon theirs. I form my opinion check Byk's opinion, feel better if I see my horse in his list but bet my opinion regardless. No worse feeling then being talked off a winning opinion.

RolloTomasi 08-25-2016 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1074807)
Why must we hear 4 time major league all-star every ****ing time this nitwit has his game mentioned ?

I'm surprised they don't have Thick Vic Stauffer on the team too. That would be the dream team of self important ninnies

I'll take Reagan the Great Communicator as the on-air talent over all of them.

Imagine:

“A few days ago I told the American people that Plum Pretty was faster than Songbird. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that’s true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not."

...plus he could claim that he outran some of the best Thoroughbreds in the world in the 1988 Breeder's Cup Turf while being ridden by Ray Sibille just a couple of days before his Vice President was voted into office as the next President.

robfla 08-25-2016 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1074748)
It's a giant chuckle-fest geared towards driving uneducated bettors toward high risk, low reward horizontal bets. These are not for the casual bettor.

And they have a Pick 4 someplace else the next race. I watched one night and they rolled off about $1000 in Pick 4 tickets and never hit one. It's an ADW shill.

Paul Lo Duca was traded for Hee-seop Choi. And I'm going to play a pick 4 on his advice ? He spent 10 years in the minor leagues for god sake. He was an All-Star, but they have to pick somebody from every team. By his last year even pitchers were stealing on him. He may hold the record still for most stolen bases vs. a team.

He's ĺike this great baseball player. He got traded for Hee-seop Choi for gad sakes.

Apparently he's not playing any of his tickets because by now he'd be flat broke and standing outside the track with a paper cup.



10 pnt move up 08-25-2016 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1074810)
I'll take Reagan the Great Communicator as the on-air talent over all of them.

Imagine:

“A few days ago I told the American people that Plum Pretty was faster than Songbird. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that’s true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not."

...plus he could claim that he outran some of the best Thoroughbreds in the world in the 1988 Breeder's Cup Turf while being ridden by Ray Sibille just a couple of days before his Vice President was voted into office as the next President.

Yea I would be cool with that too!

Crown@club 08-25-2016 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1074806)
What was he like taken in the 95th round of the draft? He was supposed to be a nobody instead became a somebody. Conflating his baseball career to his ability on TVG is like using Ronald Reagan's acting career to criticize his presidency.

He's cherry-picking stats and attacking the man to suit his agenda.

What he fails to mention is that a young World Series winning Pitcher, who was having another fine season (Brad Penny) was involved in same deal. Plus if we were talking about him as a horrible catcher that, he did have the 19th worst (twice) season of any catcher being run on during his time line.

According to this logic (pure baseball), he must of hated Piazza even more.

Every broadcast Sports or news station always mentions their colleagues accomplishments when they introduce them on a daily basis.

Pants II 08-25-2016 10:05 AM

I'll make a thread once a few more replacements for TVG on-air talent are mentioned.

So far we've got...

Alec Cabacungan
Vic Stauffer
CGI Ronald Reagan

Pants II 08-25-2016 10:10 AM

Update: Vic has already worked for TVG so in order for him to qualify for the new thread we will have to include Iggy Puglisi and a booster seat.

Indian Charlie 08-25-2016 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1074814)
I'll make a thread once a few more replacements for TVG on-air talent are mentioned.

So far we've got...

Alec Cabacungan
Vic Stauffer
CGI Ronald Reagan

Ken Rudolph.

jms62 08-25-2016 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1074814)
I'll make a thread once a few more replacements for TVG on-air talent are mentioned.

So far we've got...

Alec Cabacungan
Vic Stauffer
CGI Ronald Reagan

Wasn't Vic already a member of the cast for a few days and then just disappeared.

Pants II 08-25-2016 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1074822)
Wasn't Vic already a member of the cast for a few days and then just disappeared.

Yes. Post 21 clarifies the Stauffer nom.

jms62 08-25-2016 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1074823)
Yes. Post 21 clarifies the Stauffer nom.

Yeah sorry bout that. Opened Reply window and let it sit for a bit

jnunan4759 08-25-2016 08:40 PM

Jeez, I forgot about Ken Rudolph. He looked like a guy they picked off a local TV weathercast and just jammed into horse racing.

I'm glad we all can vent. Venting is therapeutic.

I miss HRTV. I paid extra for it and it was the best horse racing TV I've ever had.

I loved Hoover, Brad Free, Jon White, Aaron and Jeff. Good stuff.I met Millie Ball and Zoe out at SA and what nice people, and smart.

I can't stand TVG. Christina Blacker is like fingernails on a blackboard.

I like that Lo Duca is a nitwit. If he is betting, he's going to end up broke. I certainly am not going there with him. If I'm going to end up broke, I don't want it to be because I followed a 4 time All Star nitwit. I want it to be because I was a nitwit.

richard burch 08-25-2016 11:02 PM

for me LoDuca was the end of volume between races. blinking...always blinking...blinking and same stupid analysis every time.

jms62 08-26-2016 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1074896)
Jeez, I forgot about Ken Rudolph. He looked like a guy they picked off a local TV weathercast and just jammed into horse racing.

I'm glad we all can vent. Venting is therapeutic.

I miss HRTV. I paid extra for it and it was the best horse racing TV I've ever had.

I loved Hoover, Brad Free, Jon White, Aaron and Jeff. Good stuff.I met Millie Ball and Zoe out at SA and what nice people, and smart.

I can't stand TVG. Christina Blacker is like fingernails on a blackboard.

I like that Lo Duca is a nitwit. If he is betting, he's going to end up broke. I certainly am not going there with him. If I'm going to end up broke, I don't want it to be because I followed a 4 time All Star nitwit. I want it to be because I was a nitwit.

We are all nitwits in this game on a regular basis anyone who thinks otherwise is usually hanging out in the safety of the paddock. Stop by the selections thread sometime and show us how much better then than a Nitwit you are. We are always looking to learn.

knickslions2 08-26-2016 07:11 AM

Say what you want about LoDuca. He is willing to put his picks out there and share his opinion and passion. I respect that. It's easy to criticize from the bleachers. Nobody is telling you to play them

Pants II 08-26-2016 07:29 AM

The tout I worry about the most on TVG is Mike Joyce. For years I thought he was one cliche away from going full Patrick Bateman.

Uncle Daddy 08-26-2016 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1074814)
I'll make a thread once a few more replacements for TVG on-air talent are mentioned.

So far we've got...

Alec Cabacungan
Vic Stauffer
CGI Ronald Reagan

Bring back the linebacker Brian Cox. he hit a pick 3 in 2011

jnunan4759 08-26-2016 01:41 PM

That blinking does make me nervous. Somewhat unsettling.

I'm not giving my selections, you have 4 time All Star Paul Lo Duca for that.

I'm into horse racing to win. I have to win. If I lose, my whole family will call me a degenerate gambler. The only way I can keep doing something I love is to win.

South Beach Luv 08-26-2016 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1074913)
The tout I worry about the most on TVG is Mike Joyce. For years I thought he was one cliche away from going full Patrick Bateman.

He had to announce a race recently when the regular track announcer wasn't piping thru the feed. I'm not sure what he was doing, some kind of Scottish accent maybe, but it was hilarious.

jnunan4759 08-26-2016 02:36 PM

I think I bought some coins from him, or maybe it was that non-stick pan or the hose.

Port Conway Lane 08-26-2016 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1074953)
That blinking does make me nervous. Somewhat unsettling.

I'm not giving my selections, you have 4 time All Star Paul Lo Duca for that.

I'm into horse racing to win. I have to win. If I lose, my whole family will call me a degenerate gambler. The only way I can keep doing something I love is to win.

Ripping anyone's public selections isn't constructive even if you post your own.
Paul L. can be factually incorrect at times (past races and/or horses etc.), needs improvement in that area and often is corrected on air.
TVG is so much improved over the last year with the additions they've made.

jnunan4759 08-26-2016 06:58 PM

I look at what Betfair has done and they've sold 2 historic tracks and have introduced wagering that several English jockeys have said encourages race fixing and corruption. Oh well, it's all ok then. Betfair is a plague. Nothing but damage to the industry. TVG wiĺl be gone soon, unless we keep buying coins, pans and hoses.

Good riddance. I'm stuck betting them in PA. Horrifying. I can't say enough of how bad I think TVG is. I'm perfectly happy watching nyra.com all day. Jf I didn't have terrible laws, I'd bet with them.

If you want to like them, go ahead. I think they are a bunch of shady British carpetbaggers. I'd like to kick them as far as I can.

Pants II 08-26-2016 07:00 PM

Meh.

jms62 08-26-2016 07:38 PM

FFS

saratogadew 08-27-2016 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1074814)
I'll make a thread once a few more replacements for TVG on-air talent are mentioned.

So far we've got...

Alec Cabacungan
Vic Stauffer
CGI Ronald Reagan

Stephen Hawking

jnunan4759 08-27-2016 03:52 PM

If you say it's improved, how bad was it before ? I can't even get on nyra.com today, total buffoonery. I end up on TVG and they switch me from the paddock at SAR to a $5000 Claimer at MTH with this guy shilling me a Pick 4 ticket.

I don't think there is an ounce of common sense left in this world.

I feel like a stranger in a strange land.


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