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jms62 07-19-2016 07:45 AM

Melania Trump plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech
 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...e-obama-225794

Well if that is the case Michelle Obama plagiarized my mother, father, aunts Uncles, Coaches and nearly all of my teachers because basically isn't that the tenant of the values every single one of us was raised with? Study hard, play fair, treat others as you wish to be treated...... Unfortunately these values no longer hold any meaning. "Just Win Baby" has become the marching orders. Nothing like the Medias #RushToHate

Rudeboyelvis 07-19-2016 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1069953)
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...e-obama-225794

Well if that is the case Michelle Obama plagiarized my mother, father, aunts Uncles, Coaches and nearly all of my teachers because basically isn't that the tenant of the values every single one of us was raised with? Study hard, play fair, treat others as you wish to be treated...... Unfortunately these values no longer hold any meaning. "Just Win Baby" has become the marching orders. Nothing like the Medias #RushToHate

There is no bigger supporter than I (well, maybe Richard if his pants aren't still around his ankles) but this looks bad.

It pains me to say it, but something is going on.

They need to expose the speechwriter who blatantly stole this as a way to embarrass Trump & Melania.

There is simply no other rational explanation.

The side by side comparison is damning in my mind's eye:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuy5OEGFDAI

jms62 07-19-2016 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1069955)
There is no bigger supporter than I (well, maybe Richard if his pants aren't still around his ankles) but this looks bad.

It pains me to say it, but something is going on.

They need to expose the speechwriter who blatantly stole this as a way to embarrass Trump & Melania.

There is simply no other rational explanation.

The side by side comparison is damning in my mind's eye:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuy5OEGFDAI

You are serious?

Rudeboyelvis 07-19-2016 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1069956)
You are serious?

did you see the side by side video?

jms62 07-19-2016 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1069957)
did you see the side by side video?

I did but how many ways are there to give the same message that we have all heard hundreds of times without in some cases using the same wording..

geeker2 07-19-2016 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1069959)
I did but how many ways are there to give the same message that we have all heard hundreds of times without in some cases using the same wording..

I agree with jms on this ....but Dan you have it right also "it looks bad"...the media just loves sh*t like this....while Rome burns they will dwell on this for months.

I thought Rudy did a great job.

Rudeboyelvis 07-19-2016 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1069959)
I did but how many ways are there to give the same message that we have all heard hundreds of times without in some cases using the same wording..

I get what you are saying - it is the specific wording, with the specific phrasing that is baffling to me.

Further to your point, we are talking about maybe 30 seconds of a 5 minute speech - not like they lifted entire talking points word for word.

MaTH716 07-19-2016 08:39 AM

I honestly didnt watch or dont even care at this point. I think this country is f.ucked with a capital F regardless.

That being said, its amazing that in this country Plagiarism by a potential first lady, is a bigger deal than an e-mail scandal with national security implications by a presidential candidate. The entire world is coming off its hinges and this is what the media focuses on.

Benny 07-19-2016 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1069955)
There is no bigger supporter than I (well, maybe Richard if his pants aren't still around his ankles) but this looks bad.

It pains me to say it, but something is going on.

They need to expose the speechwriter who blatantly stole this as a way to embarrass Trump & Melania.

There is simply no other rational explanation.

The side by side comparison is damning in my mind's eye:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuy5OEGFDAI

2ND DEGREE BURN - the college degree ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0c53d5cfac0dc

jms62 07-19-2016 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1069965)
2ND DEGREE BURN - the college degree ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0c53d5cfac0dc

Maybe the Trade Mark I applied for on #RushToHate may eventually pay dividends.

Danzig 07-19-2016 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 1069964)
I honestly didnt watch or dont even care at this point. I think this country is f.ucked with a capital F regardless.

That being said, its amazing that in this country Plagiarism by a potential first lady, is a bigger deal than an e-mail scandal with national security implications by a presidential candidate. The entire world is coming off its hinges and this is what the media focuses on.

didn't watch either, and don't get why her speech is the big headline on sites.
there are plenty of bigger issues than her stupid speech. and others who spoke blatantly lied from what I'm seeing so far...but yeah, let's worry about what someone's spouse had to say, someone who would have nothing whatsoever to do with policies. as for her education...again, who cares?
of course, this is a country where people care about kim kardashian's life.

GBBob 07-19-2016 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1069968)
didn't watch either, and don't get why her speech is the big headline on sites.
there are plenty of bigger issues than her stupid speech. and others who spoke blatantly lied from what I'm seeing so far...but yeah, let's worry about what someone's spouse had to say, someone who would have nothing whatsoever to do with policies.



You mean..kinda' like Nancy Reagan;)

Danzig 07-19-2016 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 1069969)
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You mean..kinda' like Nancy Reagan;)

yeah.
I didn't get that then, and don't get this now.

my big beef--trump playing a queen song for his entrance!! the irony is just amazing. :D

OldDog 07-19-2016 09:09 AM

Oh, no . . . This is so bad for Trump!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0a0ae97c33675

It could ruin him!

https://youtu.be/PoE0KLGUs_I

Gasp!

https://youtu.be/QIaALKHVrAA

GBBob 07-19-2016 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1069970)
yeah.
I didn't get that then, and don't get this now.

my big beef--trump playing a queen song for his entrance!! the irony is just amazing. :D

Does Queen know he used their song? That's the bigger question..especially if Freddie wrote it

Danzig 07-19-2016 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 1069976)
Does Queen know he used their song? That's the bigger question..especially if Freddie wrote it

poor Freddie. but he was probably rolling over in his grave.

Benny 07-19-2016 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1069966)
Maybe the Trade Mark I applied for on #RushToHate may eventually pay dividends.

Right after these ##FamousMeleniaTrumpQuotes



https://twitter.com/hashtag/FamousMe...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Rudeboyelvis 07-19-2016 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 1069976)
Does Queen know he used their song? That's the bigger question..especially if Freddie wrote it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1069979)
poor Freddie. but he was probably rolling over in his grave.

According to the official Queen twitter account and the twitter accounts of Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon (the surviving members) it would seem that you two are the only ones ghastly appalled thus far.

Poor Freddie, rolling around in his grave and whatnot.

knickslions2 07-19-2016 12:08 PM


Big named celebrities last night. Not too good when Chachi is your headliner lol

GBBob 07-19-2016 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1069988)
According to the official Queen twitter account and the twitter accounts of Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon (the surviving members) it would seem that you two are the only ones ghastly appalled thus far.

Poor Freddie, rolling around in his grave and whatnot.

First World problem, I agree, but Republicans have made a habit of copyright infringement and then pulling song after artist threatens to sue.

Rudeboyelvis 07-19-2016 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 1069993)
First World problem, I agree, but Republicans have made a habit of copyright infringement and then pulling song after artist threatens to sue.

Almost as if on cue:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/19/medi...the-champions/

He should just come out to American Bad Ass - Kid Rock is a fan


Danzig 07-19-2016 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 1069993)
First World problem, I agree, but Republicans have made a habit of copyright infringement and then pulling song after artist threatens to sue.

hell, I was being facetious anyway. thought it was an odd choice that a homophobe would use a song sung by a bisexual. it was a 'whaaaat?' moment.

knickslions....trump sure won't reach anyone under the age of 50 with that 'star'!!

GBBob 07-19-2016 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1069997)
Almost as if on cue:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/19/medi...the-champions/

He should just come out to American Bad Ass - Kid Rock is a fan


Cat Scratch Fever

Danzig 07-19-2016 03:05 PM

Queen’s guitarist Brian May said in June, after Trump used the anthem to mark his victory in the final round of Republican primaries, that Queen was “taking advice on what steps we can take to ensure this use does not continue.”

“Regardless of our views on Mr. Trump’s platform, it has always been against out policy to allow Queen music to be used as a political campaigning tool,” he added.



that's from an article talking about this:





Gavin Newsom (lt governor of California)
15 hours ago.

It's important to note that tonight's RNC convention ended with a song, We Are the Champions, sung by a gay man, Freddie Mercury. Freddie Mercury died of AIDS in 1991. His music was played at a convention where the most anti-LGBT policy platform was adopted, just today. His music, which he famously labored over, which was intricate and complex, was played at a convention where Mike Pence, a man who has spent his political career actively looking for opportunities to pass laws that would give others the legal framework to discriminate against LGBT people, sat comfortably in a VIP box. I'm not sure what Freddie Mercury would think of his music being played at the RNC convention, but I do know that if he weren't a famous rockstar, he would have probably been greeted by a wall, a really high wall, because he represented everything that Mike Pence and Donald Trump are scared of.

jms62 07-19-2016 04:12 PM

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...s-was-in-2004/

bigrun 07-19-2016 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1070028)


Quote:

John Kerry went into his convention with a lead of about 3 percentage points in 2004, but lost to George W. Bush. And in 2000, Bush had about a 4-point lead on the eve of the conventions, but lost the popular vote to Al Gore. (Bush won the Electoral College, of course.)
Bush won in 2000, virtue of his brother's state (no recount and hanging chad ballots and of course SCOTUS:mad:)

jms62 07-19-2016 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 1070029)
Bush won in 2000, virtue of his brother's state (no recount and hanging chad ballots and of course SCOTUS:mad:)

Thanks. I must have missed that.

geeker2 07-19-2016 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1070032)
Thanks. I must have missed that.

I laughed !

bigrun 07-19-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1070032)
Thanks. I must have missed that.


In case you missed this too:):):)


richard burch 07-19-2016 10:28 PM

Douche Limbaugh suggests sabotage. It could be possible! I mean how f'n stupid can you be to steal HER exact language.


but she is still damn good to look at.:)

richard burch 07-19-2016 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 1070008)
Cat Scratch Fever

If you want Ted Nugent just show him something you killed with a bow and arrow and he will be on board.

bigrun 07-20-2016 11:31 AM

:D:D





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