San Bernardino
 

14 dead. Just doesn't end..

Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/hashtag/SanBernadino?src=tren

Just awful, and im so tired of these things happening, and nothing changes.

There have been 355 mass shootings in the USA this year so far. That's more than 1 a day.

But apparently, Syrian refugees are what we should all be scared of.

If this happens anywhere else in the world it is called a terrorist attack by a home grown jihadist but since it happpens here it is the guns that are at fault.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politi...rch/index.html

i had no idea that they had passed such a thing. i find it shocking.

i have a concealed carry permit, and i now carry all the time.

At least in mass they don't give those carry a concealed out to every tom dick or Mary. Especially Mary , who shouldn't be playing with guns anyway

Welcome to the militia.

According to this Daily Mail article, Tashfeen Malik, 27, came from Saudi Arabia earlier this year.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...by-mother.html

No word on whether she was thoroughly vetted.

well, i am a vet so....

'the handguns by Farook himself and the assault rifles by a third party.'
wonder who the third party is....

Fiancé visas are actually some of the most thoroughly vetted, far more than tourist visas.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san...e-visa-n473791

I'm sorry, I've just finished throwing up from your nauseating, repugnant attempt to make political hay out of yet another Islamic Terrorist attack on our country which you posted at 6:15 pacific yesterday - the victims' bodies barely yet cold. I retched.

The female, a Qatari with a Pakistani passport returning from Saudi Arabia with a recently radicalized American of Islamic decent. No red flags here. Too bad they didn't just go through Chechnya on their return. We're are watching that place now.

I guess we'll just keep burying Americans as we check off all of places that bad people come from. Cuz it's "Un-American" and it "looks bad" to be vigilant.

Good news is that this is all completely contained...JV team and what not.

Any regrets posting this now? Being that this was a terrorist attack and you want to allow refugees that have been infiltrated into the country?

The female, "well-vetted" to the degree that she was issued a K-1 Visa by the US state department, pledges allegiance to ISIS during the attack:


http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/04/us...l?eref=edition

14 dedicated Americans and their families will not be celebrating the holidays with each other as a result of this criminal's administration who passes out visas like candy to virtually any muslim that wants in.



So..yeah. Undocumented Syrian refugees, with no passports or any verifiable documentation are no threat at all. Plus they will be thoroughly "vetted" by Obama's clown college, so anyone that's alarmed by this inane stance is a racist. Got it.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gop-block...ts-buying-guns

'The measure would have denied people on the terrorist watch list the ability to buy guns.'

'the Washington Post reported that suspected terrorists had successfully purchased more than 2,000 guns from American dealers between 2004 and 2014'

thoughts?

I am all for our right to own guns but it is preposterous that someone can be deemed too dangerous to fly but could legally acquire an arsenal.

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exactly what i was thinking!! sorry sir, you cannot fly. oh.
can i buy a gun? sure. ten? absolutely!
it's crazy.

Why?



I tuned in to msnbc whilst driving around a while ago. They're still peddling the workplace violence/disgruntled employee meme. Dolts.

AG Loretta Lynch tells us that "we're at the point where these issues have come together really like never before in law enforcement thought and in our nation's history and it gives us a wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment to really make significant change." She further vowed to go after those who use anti-Muslim speech that "edges toward violence," because her "greatest fear" is the "incredibly disturbing rise of anti-Muslim rhetoric" in America. Not to mention global warming, er, climate change.

This list
https://grabien.com/story.php?id=42763
grows longer by the hour.

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Muslim leader from CAIR (the same winner that got out in front of the cameras before the FBI even got involved to extol the virtues of these two upstanding muslims) now saying it's our fault:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/04...error-attacks/

How CAIR is not regarded as a hate group (or at least regarded as terrorist sympathizers) defies comprehension

"Cuomo did not challenge him on the assertion that American foreign policy triggered terrorism."

No surprise there.

It's worth noting that the UAE has designated CAIR as a terrorist organization. The UAE isn't constrained by PC handcuffs.

Journalism!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ms...rticle/2577662

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi89...ature=youtu.be

Im surprised they let anyone in there already.

If it wasn't clear to the vast majority of people of how big of an idiot you really are, you left no doubt here.

Come on Nic. I think I know you well enough to know you are better than this. I have had the pleasure of meeting and spending time with Nicole at Pimlico a few years back. I can assure you, she is far from an idiot. You can disagree with her politics. That's fine. How about some civil, healthy debate. If I shared a similar opinion, hypothetical or not, would you call me an idiot? I would hope not.

:$:
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He is right on this, it is insane.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-ren...ls-gun-control


The fact this failed is absolutely indefensible and is truly mind boggling.

If your too busy to tune into our leader's speech tonight, I'll give you the talking points.
5 minutes will be spent on the fairytale 60 nation coalition to defeat ISIL.
25 minutes will be extolling american values as an all inclusive nation.
5 minutes on the bad guns that caused this incident to happen, and the new gun laws that are needed.

No, it's deflection. 64% of Americans disapprove of Obama's handling of ISIS, and his (and Hillary's) foreign policy regarding Libya, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are abject failures, so he's falling back on his favorite boogieman.

Keeping those on the no-fly list from buying guns sounds right, doesn't it?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/op...terrorism.html

But wait -- just a year ago
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/19/op...?_r=1&referer=

But hey, these might be dangerous folks, right? Including the 72 Department of Homeland Security employees who are on the list? Why haven't they been fired? Why haven't the hundreds of thousands on the list been arrested? Detained? Snap! Due process.

Who wasn't on the no-fly list? The San Bernardino shooters. The Fort Hood shooter. The Chattanooga shooter. The Boston bombers.

So once again our President proposes something which sounds like it might be effective, but wouldn't have prevented that with which he justifies it. No thanks, I am not in favor of the government denying second amendment rights based on a secret list that only they control.

so you think that an event like this shouldn't be used to go after others not tied to the event? not used to make a blanket policy?

See if this opinion piece helps to convey my thinking. I have a helluvalotta respect for the author.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...re-terrorists/

I don't agree if it can save 1 life but I do see your point.. Complicated.

of course it's complicated.
that's the issue with many things, there are no easy answers. and we all want them, don't we?
seems on the face of it, that if someone is deemed to dangerous to fly in or out of country, they should be too dangerous to buy a gun. but who decides who is on the list, and how do they decide?
same as if someone is mentally ill, who decides?

and as we know from past experience, any and every program under the sun has people who abuse it, and people who use it for their own personal vendettas.

Secret US Policy Blocks Agents From Looking at Social Media of Visa Applicants, Former Official Says

http://abcnews.go.com/US/secret-us-p...refer_homepage

“It was primarily a question of optics,” said Cohen. “There were concerns from a privacy and civil liberties perspective that while this was not illegal, that it would be viewed negatively if it was disclosed publicly.”

Another former counter-terrorism official cosigned Cohen’s frustration.

“Why the State Department and Homeland Security Department have not leveraged the power of social media is beyond me.” . . .

That's so stupid...public postings aren't a privacy issue at all. Unbelievable.

Stupidity is central to political correctness in general, and to the policies of this administration in particular.

Wait until Hillary is running the show if you think it is bad now.

"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein