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joeydb 09-21-2015 12:15 PM

A funny thing happened on the way to the coronation...
 
Democrats Interrupt Party Chair to Demand More Presidential Debates

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...ential-debates

Say what you will about the Republican debates thus far... at least they have debates.

Of course, Hillary might be too busy circling the wagons in response to the five separate investigations being conducted of her email scandal. Oh, and she is planning to be more spontaneous and open. Nothing like planning spontaneity for authenticity.

joeydb 09-22-2015 12:53 PM


OldDog 09-22-2015 12:58 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKjqVwBotJg

Hillary insists, "I am a real person..."

Danzig 09-22-2015 12:58 PM

please, please don't let her win.

joeydb 09-22-2015 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1043628)
please, please don't let her win.

Guess what? We agree on that sentiment. Have a good day...

Danzig 09-22-2015 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1043629)
Guess what? We agree on that sentiment. Have a good day...

oh, i sure will now that i saw what you quoted and said was the best ever post.
that's rich, coming from someone also posting in this room. had him on ignore, so never saw what he wrote til just now.
appreciate it.
and...well, his description is wrong.
steve can tell you, or chuck, or gbbob, or brian spencer etc, etc.

i hope you have a great day.
and remember that jesus loves you.

joeydb 09-22-2015 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1043630)
oh, i sure will now that i saw what you quoted and said was the best ever post.
that's rich, coming from someone also posting in this room. had him on ignore, so never saw what he wrote til just now.
appreciate it.
and...well, his description is wrong.
steve can tell you, or chuck, or gbbob, or brian spencer etc, etc.

i hope you have a great day.
and remember that jesus loves you.

I did not get the impression that he knew you or put any belief in his description. It was his second paragraph that made me laugh.

I do not know why it is 90% liberal around here. An almost monolithic dedication to all things liberal/progressive/socialist. Apparently he made a similar observation.

Jesus loves you too.

bigrun 09-22-2015 01:37 PM

How bout this possibility:D...9 of 10 emails i get on politics are anti-Obama...
Not this nightmare scenario huh:eek:


HOW SWEET IT IS NOW KNOWING THAT REPUBLICAN PRICKS ARE LYING AWAKE AT NIGHT, SWEATING & WORRYING ABOUT A "THIRD TERM" FOR THE "MUSLIM" !!!

----


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I "Googled" this fact, and apparently it is a fact. He can serve if he hasn't been elected.

Heartburn, gas, and parnoia to boot. Who dreams up these potential nightmares?




I'm not sure about the premiss but it is a scary thought






Here's something to give us all a sleepless night or two . . . . . .
The Facts:
· Obama can run as Vice President on the Biden-Obama ticket in 2016, but Obama cannot be “elected” for a 3 rd term as President.

· Obama can assume the Presidency if Biden dies or resigns at any time after the inauguration. Obama would become President
because he would not be “elected” to the office

· Joe Biden was born November 20, 1942 and he will be 74 prior to the inauguration in January 2017.

· Obama can retain control over the Dem party and its funds until 2020.

· A Biden-Obama ticket can win in 2016 if the Dem loyalties are unified and the GOP loyalties are split .

Why does this matter:

1. The Dems would retain control of the government bureaucracy until 2020

2. The Dems would retain Veto power over the Congress

3. The Dems would retain control of the Attorney General’s office and define what is prosecuted and what is not

4. The Dems would retain control over the appointments of Federal judges

5. The Dems would be in a position to replace up to 2 or 3 of the Supreme Court Justices

6. The Dems would use Executive Orders to make temporary laws and protect progressive principles

7. The Dems would protect Obamacare, EPA overreach, progressive moves to socialism, disintegration of the military, illegal imigration, deficit spending, etc.

8. The President would pardon all of the Dems who could be prosecuted if a Repub is elected later

9. The Federal bureaucracy would be used to further Dem ideals, ability to stay in power, and stifle opposing movements

10. Other?

Danzig 09-22-2015 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1043632)
I did not get the impression that he knew you or put any belief in his description. It was his second paragraph that made me laugh.

I do not know why it is 90% liberal around here. An almost monolithic dedication to all things liberal/progressive/socialist. Apparently he made a similar observation.

Jesus loves you too
.

it's an inside joke...

GenuineRisk 09-22-2015 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1043632)
I did not get the impression that he knew you or put any belief in his description. It was his second paragraph that made me laugh.


Danzig 09-22-2015 10:11 PM

Lol, gr.

I have never understood why some are so concerned about how often someone posts, or what room.
This is one of two sites I post on. It has rooms, some I visit, some i don't. Same as everyone else I'd wager.
Strange.....

GenuineRisk 09-23-2015 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1043656)
Lol, gr.

I have never understood why some are so concerned about how often someone posts, or what room.
This is one of two sites I post on. It has rooms, some I visit, some i don't. Same as everyone else I'd wager.
Strange.....

One of the things I like about the Politics Board on this site is that it has a mix of political spectrums posting. Most sites eventually end up with commenters who all lean the same way, and that gets boring to follow.

But yeah, I also can't find the energy to care who posts where and how often. That said, if some folk get something out of getting outraged about it, that's cool. If they have always aspired to being a MSMG (Middle School Mean Girl), far be it from me to stomp on their dreams. ;)

Danzig 09-23-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1043663)
One of the things I like about the Politics Board on this site is that it has a mix of political spectrums posting. Most sites eventually end up with commenters who all lean the same way, and that gets boring to follow.

But yeah, I also can't find the energy to care who posts where and how often. That said, if some folk get something out of getting outraged about it, that's cool. If they have always aspired to being a MSMG (Middle School Mean Girl), far be it from me to stomp on their dreams. ;)

:D
i like that 'msmg' acronym.

OldDog 11-16-2015 04:01 PM

Huma (referring to Hill in an email): "She's often confused."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-r...ften-confused/

Hillary explains, "I come from the 60s."
:D

Danzig 11-16-2015 04:15 PM

her comments at the debate, invoking 9-11 as defense for taking wall street money, was beyond the pale.
her husband signed the repeal of glass/steagall, and they love giving her funds..
a huge weak point for her.

joeydb 11-16-2015 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1047993)
her comments at the debate, invoking 9-11 as defense for taking wall street money, was beyond the pale.
her husband signed the repeal of glass/steagall, and they love giving her funds..
a huge weak point for her.

Um, how about the omission of anything similar to the term "Islamic Terrorism" when the Paris was the day before?

And guess what - they (the Democratic leadership, especially Debbie Wasserman Shultz) are taking great pains to hide these debates by putting them on a weekend when many will not see them.

They are all in on protecting Hillary. And she needs the protection.

She has not had a real question in forever. A glass house in fear of pebbles, let alone the boulders that are out there.

Danzig 11-16-2015 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1047996)
Um, how about the omission of anything similar to the term "Islamic Terrorism" when the Paris was the day before?

And guess what - they (the Democratic leadership, especially Debbie Wasserman Shultz) are taking great pains to hide these debates by putting them on a weekend when many will not see them.

They are all in on protecting Hillary. And she needs the protection.

She has not had a real question in forever. A glass house in fear of pebbles, let alone the boulders that are out there.

there's been some criticisms of DWS, with good reason. but not nearly as much as one would expect, given the stakes.

joeydb 11-16-2015 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1047998)
there's been some criticisms of DWS, with good reason. but not nearly as much as one would expect, given the stakes.

You're right. But once they co-opted the press, they were able to mute a lot of that.

Danzig 11-16-2015 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1048000)
You're right. But once they co-opted the press, they were able to mute a lot of that.

co-opt the press?
the criticism i saw was from the press, else i wouldn't have known of any criticisms. now, the dem party might be closemouthed about it, thus hindering any further reporting. stand united and all that rot.

jms62 11-16-2015 04:46 PM

He's baaaaack and given his track record of being woefully wrong in backing the presidential candidates I guess Hillary is the lock of the century. And that really sucks:(

OldDog 12-10-2015 09:00 AM

Why are the relatives of the Benghazi victims all lying about me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAUDS-aLGjI

GenuineRisk 12-10-2015 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1047993)
her comments at the debate, invoking 9-11 as defense for taking wall street money, was beyond the pale.
her husband signed the repeal of glass/steagall, and they love giving her funds..
a huge weak point for her.

Speaking as someone living in NYC during that time, there was a lot of fear in the aftermath that the big financial firms were all going to pick up and move someplace far away from NYC. I get what Clinton was trying to say, which was that it was her job as a Senator representing NY State to do what was best for the state, which was keeping those firms based in the city. Of course, in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, getting campaign donations from Wall Street is incredibly bad PR, but in 2001 the city was really afraid that it's place as the financial capital of the world was over.

I'm not the biggest fan of PolitiFact, but this is a pretty good brief look at Glass-Steagall and the claim that its repeal was the cause of the recession. (It wasn't: the state of affairs that led to the collapse had been building since the 1970s):

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ng-do-financi/

Ultimately, the President has really no control over the economy. Now, things like lying the nation into a trillion dollar war in the Middle East, that he does.

OldDog 12-10-2015 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1049943)
Ultimately, the President has really no control over the economy. Now, things like lying the nation into a trillion dollar war in the Middle East, that he does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8

GenuineRisk 12-10-2015 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1049950)

Talking to sound tough and actually sending men and women off to war (without paying for it) are two different things. The war was started in 2003.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_773038.html

OldDog 12-10-2015 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1049960)
Talking to sound tough and actually sending men and women off to war (without paying for it) are two different things. The war was started in 2003.

The Resolution was passed in October, 2002. All the Dem legislators in the video, except Nancy Pelosi, voted yea.

GenuineRisk 12-14-2015 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1049968)
The Resolution was passed in October, 2002. All the Dem legislators in the video, except Nancy Pelosi, voted yea.

How many GOP legislators voted for the resolution? Or do they not count?

OldDog 12-14-2015 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1050414)
How many GOP legislators voted for the resolution? Or do they not count?

They all count. The point is that it wasn't a strictly partisan vote, unlike, say, the "affordable" care act.

OldDog 01-08-2016 12:43 PM

Could use lesson in self-awareness


joeydb 01-11-2016 12:24 PM


OldDog 01-26-2016 03:49 PM

Time to shore up Hillary.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...ned-dem-debate

GenuineRisk 01-26-2016 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1053331)

This is why I google anything Joeydb quotes:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clint...cietyquote.asp


Which is not to say the sentiment is necessarily bad. At least, not according to this guy:


Rudeboyelvis 01-26-2016 04:39 PM

Breaking
 
Tom DeLay: The Feds are ready to indict Clinton:

>>>"They're ready to recommend an indictment, and they also say that if the attorney general does not indict, they're going public. So one way or another, either she's going to be indicted and that process begins, or we try her in the public eye with her campaign,” he told the conservative news outlet. “One way or another, she's going to have to face these charges."<<<

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...indict-clinton

Ruh Roh

geeker2 01-26-2016 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1054742)
Tom DeLay: The Feds are ready to indict Clinton:

>>>"They're ready to recommend an indictment, and they also say that if the attorney general does not indict, they're going public. So one way or another, either she's going to be indicted and that process begins, or we try her in the public eye with her campaign,” he told the conservative news outlet. “One way or another, she's going to have to face these charges."<<<

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...indict-clinton

Ruh Roh




Danzig 01-27-2016 09:16 AM

if anyone would know about investigations and charges, i guess it would be tom delay.
and a grand jury would have to recommend charges.

OldDog 02-02-2016 03:01 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd_QWSsYxo8

OldDog 02-04-2016 11:28 AM

Hillary Clinton on Wall Street, Paid Speeches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHcwObLQem4

Oh, really?

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politic...ons-in/2264074

:$:

Danzig 02-04-2016 03:43 PM

'As Sanders has put her on the defensive about her Wall Street contributions, Clinton has responded that the campaign money does not influence her approach to regulating the financial industry.'

bullshit


ok, this topic made me wonder about other candidates, so I did a search of 'wall street donations candidates'

here's the first item on the list, with a chart of who got what....

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/these-...45726933.html#

amazing.

OldDog 02-05-2016 07:09 AM

That's interesting. The TBT article reports that Clinton took in $21.4M of her total $157.8M from "donors at hedge funds, banks, insurance companies and other financial-services firms," while the Yahoo piece reports $6.3M of $97.8M. That's a strong December push.

Danzig 02-05-2016 09:15 AM

I wonder how they feel about giving a fortune to jeb*? not a very good roi.

joeydb 02-05-2016 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1054742)
Tom DeLay: The Feds are ready to indict Clinton:

>>>"They're ready to recommend an indictment, and they also say that if the attorney general does not indict, they're going public. So one way or another, either she's going to be indicted and that process begins, or we try her in the public eye with her campaign,” he told the conservative news outlet. “One way or another, she's going to have to face these charges."<<<

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...indict-clinton

Ruh Roh

Could we really see a perp walk, live on TV, handcuffs and all? :eek:



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