Dortmund: Can He Be Stopped?
 

Dortmund has shown to be a serious threat to win this year's Kentucky Derby. What can derail this ultra-impressive colt?

http://regalbloodlines.com/2015/03/0...in-his-armour/

Injury.

A faster horse.

A bad post position.

A bad trip.

A bad ride.

A bad day.

Just to name a few things.

Plus RHT will be betting him

While I agree with that sentiment, you should consider....

Carpe Diem is by Giant's Causeway.

:D
:tro: now THAT made me laugh Buddy

No He Can't!!
 

Look at these pictures!! He's like Forego!! He can do it all, and is peaking and learning at the right time! He is sound and has the foundation and toughness to get through the Triple Crown!!

Mr Z will will stop him.

I look at him and immediately think of Point Given, so yeah, he can be stopped.

I look at him and see Saarland.

i look at him and hear a chihuahua yipping

If the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree, then I sure hope Dortmund draws post #20 in the Kentucky Derby. This is a great horse and for me personally, it's like 2008 all over again :)

Who doesn't love Derby season? ;)

Dortmund ain't Big Brown, and this also ain't 2008.

What? It's not 2008? Your response is as grumpy as it was in 2008. LOL!!!

As your reasoning is vacuous.

2008 was a dreadful crop.

Not true for this year.

What's more vacuous than dismissing 2008 as a dreadful crop. Just because Big Brown beat every competitor he raced (throwing out the Belmont due to injury) doesn't make it a dreadful crop. His talent proved to be a man among boys. When you can win by 4 1/2 lengths from 5 wide at post 20, that speaks volumes. Only done once before in the early 20th century by the way.

I agree with you that this year's contenders look to be a strong group.

Dortmund's results this year, coupled with his pedigree and athleticism has me living in the past. To be precise, 2008 :)

Big Brown was a nice horse, but that was an empirically bad crop.

OK Indian Charlie, I'm guilty as charged = Vacuous!

I knew I liked you!

Ap ran ran a 100 beyer as a workout last week. He will be tough

Agreed.

I think, from what I've read on boards and racing sites, that people are confusing A.P. with Bayern.

A.P. doesn't need the lead, you can tell by watching him run.

We are still nearly 2 months away from the Derby, right now I just want the mystery of the short tail and name misspelling solved!

he looks awesome. i have to put him at the top of the list for now.

From Jennie Rees Courier Journal article:
Tale of the tail: The only flaw with American Pharoah might be that he has an inordinately short tail. But that's because on the McKathan Brothers Farm near Ocala, a fellow 2-year-old chewed off much of his tail. The culprit is believed to have been Mr. Z, another Zayat horse on the Derby trail, along with El Kabeir.

tail "mystery" solved:

on the McKathan Brothers Farm near Ocala, a fellow 2-year-old chewed off much of his tail. The culprit is believed to have been Mr. Z, another Zayat horse on the Derby trail.

"I saw him early in the year and he had a full tail," said Justin Zayat, who serves as racing manager for his dad. "I came back six months later and he had this tiny tail."

spelling "mystery" solved:

simply misspelled --- now you can start capping the derby :p

Thanks! :D

I love your absolutes about things far from proven. The only time he didn't control the pace, he got drowned.

I am not absolute on my assessment, but I am very confident.

Much like with how Bayern and Shared Belief turned out.

That's part of the fun of horse racing, no? Trying to foresee how a horse will perform under different conditions?

You make absolute statements, you made plenty about CA Chrome that proved incorrect, and that is what I find amusing.

I think he will rate successfully is hardly what you said.

I think he may prove an enormous disappointment. I hope he races enough for that to be proven one way or another. I'm skeptical of that too.

Chrome busted up his foot in the Belmont. Injury and bad racing luck are not that easy to predict in a race scenario.

You knew that though.

I'm not sure what other predictions I had about Chrome besides him being a can't lose in the Belmont, but it goes without saying that any horse can lose any race if they get hurt.

As for AP, it's pretty likely he will rate, as I can already see that he does rate on the lead. Again, you know that and are just being difficult about semantics.

I agree about being skeptical on his chances of having a long career. I don't know how good he is yet either, but he just might be even better than his hype.

I saw his Rebel a bit differently than apparently how most others saw it.

You had a bad opinion about CA Chrome. I have lots of specifically bad opinions. Admitting them, trying to figure out why you were wrong, and not dreaming up bs excuses, is a good path to take.

I am perfectly fine in admitting my mistakes.

My mistake with the Belmont was in not foreseeing him ripping up his hoof coming out of the gate.

IMO, a very bad opinion is one that sees Tonalist as a better racehorse than California Chrome.

You don't bet, right?

Not anymore, correct.

Which, of course, invalidates everything I say.

Because, without betting, I have no brain.

One could go the other way though and say I'm less likely to be biased because I don't have money riding on my opinions.

Whether or not you have a functioning brain is debatable given your posts here, but forgetting that, you make comments to suit a poor argument. Whether or not Tonalist is a better horse than CA Chrome is also open to debate, what is not open to debate is that he ran a much better race in the Belmont Stakes. Good opinions for those of us that bet are about having them at the right time, whether or not one horse is ultimately "better" than another.

I wish you bet...but you don't.

I'm glad we at least agree that Chrome ran the better race in the Belmont (relative to Tonalist).

Hate to lose this precious gem of stupidity.

Hard to defend that CC ran better than Tonalist in the Belmont, by about 1.5 lengths. However, anyone saying Tonalist is a better horse than CC must be completely ignoring CC waxing Tonalist in the BCC and at a distance that is actually run in North America. You might as well say VE Day is a better horse than Tonalist if you're gonna say Tonalist is better than CC.

He had a torn up hoof.