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Kasept 01-29-2015 10:09 AM

Fumble stat shocker adds glare to Pats' duplicity
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/deflate...07565-nfl.html

Pretty damning sub-stat.. Pats don't fumble anymore since rule change allowed for teams to use their own balls.

jms62 01-29-2015 11:08 AM

Thing I don't understand is that an Official touched the ball to reset on EVERY single New England play and didn't recognize the balls were underinflated?

casp0555 01-29-2015 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1014062)
Thing I don't understand is that an Official touched the ball to reset on EVERY single New England play and didn't recognize the balls were underinflated?

or that there was difference between Indy's balls and the Pats......

Danzig 01-29-2015 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1014062)
Thing I don't understand is that an Official touched the ball to reset on EVERY single New England play and didn't recognize the balls were underinflated?

:tro:

what i want to know...(and i'm so tired of hearing about the damn footballs. and for christs sake, can they stop with the -gate on everything?!)
is are they sure that the refs actually checked the psi on the balls???
also, the balls were properly inflated in the second half, when the pats really kicked butt.

Danzig 01-29-2015 12:20 PM

just saw this:

http://larrybrownsports.com/football...atriots/253599

i've thought since the story first broke that the refs didn't check them...just signed off on them.
but, we all know the nfl doesn't want to ever fess up. i'd imagine they're hoping this all just goes away.
it is after all the same nfl who fined lynch for a lewd gesture, and then was selling a photo of the lewd gesture on its' website!!!

aaron rodgers likes his balls overinflated. brady likes them lower...why can't the qb's have it how they wish?

somerfrost 01-29-2015 12:47 PM

Have not heard this much talk about balls since Deep Throat first came out, this is the price we pay for 24/7 sports TV and radio. Anyway, should be a great game.

Crown@club 01-29-2015 02:06 PM

I guess Stevan Ridley really can't hang on to the football.

Rudeboyelvis 01-29-2015 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 1014081)
I guess Stevan Ridley really can't hang on to the football.

New England had better hope they don't turn the ball over on offense. Every bad throw, every interception, every dropped ball, every fumble is going to be met with the same type of speculation.

It's an impossible situation and an impossible amount of pressure (sorry :o ) to have to deal with, no matter how they try and spin it.

Danzig 01-29-2015 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1014086)
New England had better hope they don't turn the ball over on offense. Every bad throw, every interception, every dropped ball, every fumble is going to be met with the same type of speculation.

It's an impossible situation and an impossible amount of pressure (sorry :o ) to have to deal with, no matter how they try and spin it.

:D

Pants II 01-29-2015 08:13 PM

I just want the Pats to lose by more than 35.

Alabama Stakes 02-06-2015 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1014111)
I just want the Pats to lose by more than 35.

doubtful

3kings 05-06-2015 01:31 PM

If Kraft is really disappointed that Brady and the equipment people conspired to cheat, he should suspend Brady himself. The NFL won't have the balls to do it.

ateamstupid 05-06-2015 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 1026057)
If Kraft is really disappointed that Brady and the equipment people conspired to cheat, he should suspend Brady himself. The NFL won't have the balls to do it.

Nah IMO he'll get one or two games. Has to.

MaTH716 05-06-2015 01:36 PM

It's irrelevant. They won the freakin Super Bow for Christ sakesl. Its like all those insider traders getting fined 5 million after making 500 million.

dellinger63 05-06-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 1026059)
It's irrelevant. They won the freakin Super Bow for Christ sakesl. Its like all those insider traders getting fined 5 million after making 500 million.

Maybe they can send Martha Stewart to prison, I mean suspend her. :wf

3kings 05-06-2015 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 1026058)
Nah IMO he'll get one or two games. Has to.

I hope you are right but the league opener? Not so sure.

Danzig 05-06-2015 01:53 PM

'probable'.

whatever, moving on.

3kings 05-07-2015 07:03 AM

https://www.youtube.com/embed/WIpHZ9RuY0g

Alabama Stakes 05-07-2015 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1026063)
Maybe they can send Martha Stewart to prison, I mean suspend her. :wf

she did her time and didn't complain. She made Thanksgiving dinner for everyone in the joint and it was awesome. She's smart enough to be a man.

ateamstupid 05-11-2015 05:13 PM

4 games for Brady. Pats lose 2016 1st and 2017 4th.

Can't wait for Garappolo to show he's secretly a superstar because that franchise never stops shitting horseshoes.

knickslions2 05-11-2015 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 1026640)
4 games for Brady. Pats lose 2016 1st and 2017 4th.

Can't wait for Garappolo to show he's secretly a superstar because that franchise never stops shitting horseshoes.

Slap on wrist for brady

Alabama Stakes 05-12-2015 12:04 AM

Brady will tell the commish to go and fu ckhimself. they have some half senile senior citizen doing the investigation take 108 days to say he probably knew.

this guy must think Brady and Kraft just got off a boat.

3kings 05-12-2015 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 1026640)
4 games for Brady. Pats lose 2016 1st and 2017 4th.

Can't wait for Garappolo to show he's secretly a superstar because that franchise never stops shitting horseshoes.

If I'm Sean Payton I'm pissed. He was suspended a year because he should have known, nothing for Belichick.

knickslions2 05-12-2015 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 1026677)
If I'm Sean Payton I'm pissed. He was suspended a year because he should have known, nothing for Belichick.

Couldn't agree more. That was the first thing I thought of.

Danzig 05-12-2015 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 1026677)
If I'm Sean Payton I'm pissed. He was suspended a year because he should have known, nothing for Belichick.

:tro:

yeah, still chuckle when i remember the reporter asking goodell why he didn't suspend himself a year, because he should have known!
the whole thing is ridiculous. didn't know a team could be so penalized for something that 'probably' happened.

jms62 05-12-2015 08:31 AM

Shouldn't the officials be fired? If there is a rule on psi shouldn't they be in charge of enforcing it by checking the balls given to them before the game starts and shouldn't they be responsible for chain of custody once balls are given to them.

Benny 05-12-2015 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1026686)
Shouldn't the officials be fired? If there is a rule on psi shouldn't they be in charge of enforcing it by checking the balls given to them before the game starts and shouldn't they be responsible for chain of custody once balls are given to them.

:tro:

Danzig 05-12-2015 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1026686)
Shouldn't the officials be fired? If there is a rule on psi shouldn't they be in charge of enforcing it by checking the balls given to them before the game starts and shouldn't they be responsible for chain of custody once balls are given to them.

:tro:

exactly!! the whole thing is absurd. and i don't buy for a second that they tested the balls to begin with...and then there's the official who gave them the wrong ball, because he sold the other.

casp0555 05-12-2015 10:00 AM

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nice catch....just sayin' ;)

Attachment 2510

Crown@club 05-12-2015 10:00 AM

Somewhere, Gaylord Perry is having a good laugh.

If you think the punishment is unfair, you can stupidly contribute here:

http://www.gofundme.com/NewEnglandPatriots


But this is even more disgusting:

http://www.wthr.com/story/29033443/r...ldier-tributes

jms62 05-12-2015 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 1026707)
Somewhere, Gaylord Perry is having a good laugh.

If you think the punishment is unfair, you can stupidly contribute here:

http://www.gofundme.com/NewEnglandPatriots


But this is even more disgusting:

http://www.wthr.com/story/29033443/r...ldier-tributes

I thought this exact same thing when this news broke yesterday.

knickslions2 05-12-2015 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 1026677)
If I'm Sean Payton I'm pissed. He was suspended a year because he should have known, nothing for Belichick.

http://www.canalstreetchronicles.com...es-sean-payton

Crown@club 05-13-2015 10:09 AM

Welcome to Mousegate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddD_...ature=youtu.be

Alabama Stakes 05-15-2015 11:13 PM

Goodall is cop/D.A./ and Judge in the same case, and wants to be in charge of the appeal too. No wonder they booed him so loudly at the draft

Danzig 05-18-2015 01:14 PM

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12...ke-deflategate


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