Jockey's pay, interesting info
 

I asked someone who I knew would not BS me (wife of a jockey) how much he gets paid. It works this way - If he wins he gets 10% of 60% of the purse. This is what blew me away, at Beulah second on back - $45. For every Jockey. What kind of expenses do Jockeys have besides the obvious, meaning rent etc.. What kind of expenses in relation to their job?

There Biggest Expense Would Be Paying Their Agents I Believe

I wonder what Jockey's get paid in other markets?

You think it's cheap to get someone to interpret the comics for you?

Or to apologize to trainers for the mistakes and promise not to do it again the next time?
Good agents also take donuts to barns of the winning mounts the next morning. I'm not kidding.

Ok I Guess I'll Take A Dozen Krispy Kremes, Unless Any Of You Know A Tastier Donut, Ha Ha

dough daddy's on versailles rd couple miles up from Keeneland...

Krispy Kremes are the worst donuts ever made. Not fit to be called a donut.

Tell you a funny story, I will never forget it. I worked for an owner who had the same tradition. If he had a horse win the next morning he went to the winning barn and brought two dozen doughnuts for the help. One morning we had gone to watch works and he and I and his wife went and got the doughnuts afterwards to bring to the barn of this high profile trainer.
Upon pulling in front of the barn, the grooms and help came running. They were eagerly awaiting the doughnuts. His wife and I sat in the car. His wife is a wonderful person through and through but doesn't say much very often. She made an astute comment and observation while watching the help come running that I never forgot and I never would have thought of. She said "You'd think with all the money this guy makes(meaning the trainer), that he could buy these poor guys some doughnuts every day."

Thats so true too. During a record meet I consistantly took the help out to lunches, dinners, out to watch football. Just really treated them well. You would think the trainer would do something nice for them but it never crossed his mind. Infact I sent a special letter over the weekend because the one guy had a kid, gave him a couple hundred, and thanked him. These guys work very hard, its grueling to wake up every morning and work, its brutal. Im sure there are some trainers who recognize the help, but usually trainers just use them.

Noted philanthropist Jerry Bailey supposedly tipped the entire barn $1000 after winning the Derby on Sea Hero.

I would have preferred donuts.

Pat Day talked the talk and walked the walk. Not gonna name names, but I know Bid will know this story being a KY guy(Bid its Steves site so please don't even give a clue as to who this is). Pat's agent told me this story, so I know its legit.
Pat Day is as good a human being as anyone I ever met. If I ever could bring myself to live life one-tenth as good as Pat has I'd be proud.
After a breeders cup win for certain barn, Pat sent his agent over to the barn with a HUGE check to be given to the help. HUGE. gave it to the trainer and his wife. Word got back to pat that the help never got the check. Nice huh? So pat sent Doc over with another one to give directly. Now thats class. And anyone who has ever met Pat won't doubt this for a second.

I first really got into horse racing during the Easy Goer and Sunday Silence battles... I always liked Pat Day and even more when he rode Unbridled to his BCC win. :cool:

I talked to Pat Day for five minutes when he was here, smart guy

His rides were questionable at best on easy Goer and even worse on the Seeking the Gold(pull up his travers sometime, I still get angry and red faced watching it).
But as a human being hes one of the most incredible people you will ever meet. That story with the man in the wheelchair is pretty much what you would expect from Pat. Not surprising at all. In a world where so many people don't practice what they preach, Pat is a man who preaches so much, and practices every bit of that and more.
That being said his rides on Goer and Seeking The Gold probably took years off Shug's life.

Can't say I blame Pat on that one... better that than to argue it til he's blue in the face like Clinton tends to do. LMAO...

I didn't understand enough about racing when Pat was riding Easy Goer to know that he rode him poorly... I was only 9.

Sunday SIlence was better than Easy Goer

Yeah he sure looked it in the belmont didn't he? Only got beat a football field.

ky derby, preakness, BC..hmmmmmmmmm

small margins with qustionable rides.
They both got clear trips on no medication one time, and Easy Goer drilled him and humiliated him.
And of course we all know about the famous attending vet Harthill(now passed away) and his famous methods Seattle, but you are too young and dumb to understand what journalists tried to say between the lines about him and SS when Goer couldnt even run on lasix.
Tell you what I do KNOW!!! When SS shipped to belmont they told ole Charlie that there was gonna be round the clock surveillance on his horse, "to make sure he was safe and noone got to him". LOL!!! Ole charlie sure was full of bravado after the Derby and before the Preakness, but was awfully bitter and on edge the weekend of the Belmont.
The real deal was that Easy Goers connections knew and felt that ole Doc Harthill was the problem. And no way, no how was he getting near him before the Belmont.
We know the rest, Easy Goer disposed of SS like tissue paper under a snug hold and just cruised home. Funny what happens when horses are put under surveillance huh.

I personally thought that while Easy Goer was the more talented of the two, Sunday Silence was much the fighter... I don't believe we ever saw a 100% Easy Goer, although that's just my opinion...

Well let me edit that...

I think that Easy Goer fooled around... could have beaten SS, but the maturity wasn't there.

I imagine lots of things were sore with Harthill not being able to go near him at Belmont.
Don't you find it a bit odd that the margins were a nose, neck and length when SS won, and when Goer won it was by the length of a football field?
Its just coiincidence that Harthill couldn't get near him at belmont right?:rolleyes:

Harthill won more derbys than any jockey ever has. He would have told you that himself. I will admit I was and still am a huge Sunday Silence fan. What a great sire hes been.

Be careful here Oracle...Pat wasnt always such a great man. His life is pretty interesting pre-religion. But he has turned out to be a wonder human being and I am fortunate enough to have him as part of my life.

25 % to the agent and 10 % to the valet, 35 % right off the top . Then dont forget about uncle sams cut at the end of the quarter.
So lets see you 45 for the ride ,so the agent gets 18 and the valet gets 4.50 and that leaves you with 22.50 hmm dont sound like to much to me.

Hey thanks Honu

My Lord...these people are paid Nothing!! I'm truly aghast. Maybe on the major tracks they're paid better,huh??

Timm,
For the few that make it to the big tracks there are many that go out each day and risk their lives, injuries...for "peanuts".
It's a tough game.
"Ring of dreams".

No wonder some of those Jockeys at Beulah share a "stall / apartment" with hired help.

The agent would get $11.25, not $18. $11.25 is 25% of $45.

Wow-they could hit Jack in the Box..instead of McDonald's now!

I guess thats why Im not an accountant. Thanks Rupert sure makes me feel alot better about those 33 dollar jock mounts I rode for , damn I was cheatin myself the whole time and didnt know it ;)

Time for some Back Pay,Honu??:)

Beulah park jocks are starving. The only way they make a living is by betting.;)

No horse could run on Lasix in NY in those years. I seem to remember that Easy Goer didn't run on it during the TC races but Sunday did (except the Belmont). Hmmmm.....
Do you know what Easy Goer died from? Autopsy showed tumors on every organ in his body. Mr. Shug is a DMSO jugging guy. The tumors were blamed on that. Do you know what DMSO jugging is for?? Mr. Shug is no saint.

I think everyone is well aware of what he was in the 70's and very early 80's. I see no need to even comment on it. What hes done since then has surely made up for every sin he ever committed, and then some.

Would fighting to keep the weight scale down so that jockies are forced to starve themselves and purge be considered one of the great Pat Day's wonderful contributions to racing?