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RockHardTen1985 10-28-2014 07:13 PM

Breeders Cup weekend locks and horses to bet against!!!!!!!
 
The bet against horses will only be horses who should be relatively short prices at post time.
Ring Weekend feels like a lock in race 4 on Friday. He is versatile and that field is just not very good. He has turned into a turf stud over his last 3 races. He should be very tough.
Race 6 on Friday. I want no part of Hootenanny. If he wires this field congratulations to the horse and the connections. There is a potential American turf superstar in here w/ Imperia. Between him and the 4 Euro’s someone is supposed to beat Hootenanny. Of the Euro’s I prefer the 4 and 9, but Ill cover the 1 and 7.
Race 8 on Friday. I want no part of Sunset Glow and Lady Eli. Again Ill roll w/ the 4 Euro’s. I prefer the 2 and 14, but Ill cover the 6 and 13.

RockHardTen1985 10-28-2014 07:14 PM

Saturday thoughts coming once the Giants take control of Game 6.

dellinger63 10-28-2014 07:26 PM

Shared Belief not believing he's equal at dirt and poly and California Chrome with his idiot supporters are my two bet against horses and fortunately they're in the same race.

Not a single lock all w/e but if a gun were put to my head it would be Untapable of course.

RockHardTen1985 10-28-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1003731)
Shared Belief not believing he's equal at dirt and poly and California Chrome with his idiot supporters are my two bet against horses and fortunately they're in the same race.

Not a single lock all w/e but if a gun were put to my head it would be Untapable of course.



I'm totally against the two horses you mentioned also. I'm undecided on the Distaff. Actually looking at the race right now.

asudevil 10-28-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 1003728)
The bet against horses will only be horses who should be relatively short prices at post time.
Ring Weekend feels like a lock in race 4 on Friday. He is versatile and that field is just not very good. He has turned into a turf stud over his last 3 races. He should be very tough.
Race 6 on Friday. I want no part of Hootenanny. If he wires this field congratulations to the horse and the connections. There is a potential American turf superstar in here w/ Imperia. Between him and the 4 Euro’s someone is supposed to beat Hootenanny. Of the Euro’s I prefer the 4 and 9, but Ill cover the 1 and 7.
Race 8 on Friday. I want no part of Sunset Glow and Lady Eli. Again Ill roll w/ the 4 Euro’s. I prefer the 2 and 14, but Ill cover the 6 and 13.

Phuck!!!!!!!!! Why do you have to love one of my BCBC tourney plays?
5 Day forecast....Mush clouds moving toward Arcadia.

RockHardTen1985 10-28-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 1003735)
Phuck!!!!!!!!! Why do you have to love one of my BCBC tourney plays?
5 Day forecast....Mush clouds moving toward Arcadia.

Who do I love? I dont love Ring Weekend, he just seems much better then that field. He will also be like 8-5

letswastemoney 10-28-2014 08:09 PM

In the Turf Sprint, the experienced downhill horses tend to fare well.

I'm thinking Ambitious Brew or Home Run Kitten have an advantage, especially with Reneesgotzip, Bobby's Kitten and others all set to kill each other on the lead.

RockHardTen1985 10-28-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 1003740)
In the Turf Sprint, the experienced downhill horses tend to fare well.

I'm thinking Ambitious Brew or Home Run Kitten have an advantage, especially with Reneesgotzip, Bobby's Kitten and others all set to kill each other on the lead.

I don't think Bobby's Kitten will be anywhere near the lead.

knickslions2 10-28-2014 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 1003729)
Saturday thoughts coming once the Giants take control of Game 6.

We may be waiting a long time :D

RockHardTen1985 10-28-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1003742)
We may be waiting a long time :D

This is sickening.

casp0555 10-28-2014 08:34 PM

Easy...its only the 3rd inning :rolleyes:

helicopter11 10-28-2014 08:58 PM

Any horse who hast run in a downhill sprint at Santa Anita is an auto toss

RockHardTen1985 10-28-2014 10:01 PM

Puca is 6-1ML. Its Mott and Joel. If she ever gets bet she is the biggest toss out of the entire weekend.

senator L 10-28-2014 10:25 PM

I think Chrome is a toss.
He has got breeding on his mind:D

Aly-Sheba 10-28-2014 10:54 PM

I will try beating Untapable because I didn't like her lugging, in her last race. I know she could win, but if you remember last year she ran horrible over the track. I know its new dirt, but I think she would be a good stand against.

RockHardTen1985 10-28-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Aly-Sheba (Post 1003769)
I will try beating Untapable because I didn't like her lugging, in her last race. I know she could win, but if you remember last year she ran horrible over the track. I know its new dirt, but I think she would be a good stand against.

Im leaning towards 2,3,11 in that race. Untapable might be a pretty big favorite, because of Close Hatches debacle in her last.

letswastemoney 10-29-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Aly-Sheba (Post 1003769)
I will try beating Untapable because I didn't like her lugging, in her last race. I know she could win, but if you remember last year she ran horrible over the track. I know its new dirt, but I think she would be a good stand against.

The no lasix rule may have affected her last year.

Thunder Gulch 10-29-2014 08:57 PM

I'm thinking Goldencents is as solid as anyone on the card, same as last year.

I think you toss Chrome. Lots of respect for what he did this year, but even his impressive wins on this track weren't on par with his odds in this race.

Kitan 10-30-2014 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 1003880)
I think you toss Chrome. Lots of respect for what he did this year, but even his impressive wins on this track weren't on par with his odds in this race.

Agreed, based on the ML anyways.

Hootenanny and Sunset Glow, the former especially, are the two biggest plays against for me. I'll never bet a BC Juvy Turf race again if either win. They might turn out to be the best horses in their respective races, but not on this day under these circumstances.

RockHardTen1985 10-30-2014 12:30 AM

[quote=Kitan;1003901]Agreed, based on the ML anyways.

Hootenanny and Sunset Glow, the former especially, are the two biggest plays against for me. I'll never bet a BC Juvy Turf race again if either win. They might turn out to be the best horses in their respective races, but not on this day under these circumstances.[/QUOT


I mentioned both of them in my initial post. I'm not sure either can even be competitive.

knickslions2 10-30-2014 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1003901)
Agreed, based on the ML anyways.

Hootenanny and Sunset Glow, the former especially, are the two biggest plays against for me. I'll never bet a BC Juvy Turf race again if either win. They might turn out to be the best horses in their respective races, but not on this day under these circumstances.

Imperia looks tough in this race. Also looking at Commemorative

declansharbor 10-30-2014 09:05 AM

I'm singling Leigh Court and Untapable.

Longshots that I'm working into the number are Calculator in the Juvy, Bakken in the Sprint, Tourist in the Mile, and Prayer for Relief in the Classic.


Best of luck ladies and gents!

FATPIANO 10-30-2014 10:32 AM

Friday's Locks Or My Best Bets

Juv Turf...Danny Boy...20-1
Dirt Mile...Golden Ticket...15-1
Juv Filly Turf...Raina Da Batera...12-1
Distaff....Don't Tell Sophia...5-1

ADJMK 10-30-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1003915)
Imperia looks tough in this race. Also looking at Commemorative

Liked her too but concerned that only 1 work since last race and no works in past 2 weeks.

booner 10-30-2014 11:47 AM

Friday

Las Vegas Marathon: #9 Cary Street
Dirt Mile: #8 Fed Biz
Juvenile Fillies Turf: #8 Osaila

jms62 10-30-2014 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 1003933)
Friday's Locks Or My Best Bets

Juv Turf...Danny Boy...20-1
Dirt Mile...Golden Ticket...15-1
Juv Filly Turf...Raina Da Batera...12-1
Distaff....Don't Tell Sophia...5-1

I planned on using Danny Boy but the post turned me off.

Kitan 10-31-2014 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1003901)
Agreed, based on the ML anyways.

Hootenanny and Sunset Glow, the former especially, are the two biggest plays against for me. I'll never bet a BC Juvy Turf race again if either win. They might turn out to be the best horses in their respective races, but not on this day under these circumstances.

hhhrhrrrrrmmmmmnnnnnnnnaaaahhnanmmm

Sorry, couldn't speak with my foot in my mouth.

Arletta 10-31-2014 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1004357)
hhhrhrrrrrmmmmmnnnnnnnnaaaahhnanmmm

Sorry, couldn't speak with my foot in my mouth.

Looks like many in this thread can relate after today.

booner 11-01-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by booner (Post 1003945)
Friday

Las Vegas Marathon: #9 Cary Street 1st (5/2 off the 10/1 ML :mad:)
Dirt Mile: #8 Fed Biz Ugh...:zz:
Juvenile Fillies Turf: #8 Osaila 3rd

Not too impressive. Hope to hit a couple of these today, though.....

Saturday

Juvenile Fillies: #4 Conquest Eclipse
Juvenile: #7 Texas Red
Sprint: #14 Bourbon Courage (been waiting for cutback to sprint and 30/1 is sweet)
Mile: #2 Obviously and #5 Toronado (big exacta play)
Classic: #2 Cigar Street

Good luck today!!! :D

helicopter11 11-01-2014 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booner (Post 1004466)
Not too impressive. Hope to hit a couple of these today, though.....

Saturday

Juvenile Fillies: #4 Conquest Eclipse
Juvenile: #7 Texas Red
Sprint: #14 Bourbon Courage (been waiting for cutback to sprint and 30/1 is sweet)
Mile: #2 Obviously and #5 Toronado (big exacta play)
Classic: #2 Cigar Street

Good luck today!!! :D

Nice Pick with Texas Red!
I hope you are right about Cigar Street too! ;)

booner 11-01-2014 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booner (Post 1004466)
Not too impressive. Hope to hit a couple of these today, though.....

Saturday

Juvenile Fillies: #4 Conquest Eclipse out
Juvenile: #7 Texas Red $29.20 winner...YEAH!!! :$:
Sprint: #14 Bourbon Courage (been waiting for cutback to sprint and 30/1 is sweet) closed for 4th...6 panels too short
Mile: #2 Obviously and #5 Toronado (big exacta play) Still trying to figure out what happened lol :zz:
Classic: #2 Cigar Street faded but not affected by the...oh screw it

Good luck today!!! :D

Thanks Texas Red. Paid for my food and drink this weekend!! :D

booner 11-01-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 1004720)
Nice Pick with Texas Red!
I hope you are right about Cigar Street too! ;)

Thanks helicopter. That was sweet.

Guess our "wise guy" pick didn't pan out....


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