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magic_idol 10-07-2014 01:35 PM

Melbourne,Caulfield,Cox plate Cups
 
Fawkner for me @ the minute anyone like anything else ?

_ed_ 10-07-2014 02:48 PM

I love Who Shot Thebarman as a 3200-metre horse. His Auckland Cup win was something else and he's looking very good so far this prep. If he makes the field he'll be a nice chance.

my miss storm cat 10-07-2014 09:12 PM

Check this out (and, for the record, it was written by ed :tro: )...

Japanese star attacked by stablemate

http://www.theinformant.co.nz/racing...-by-stablemate :eek:

_ed_ 10-07-2014 09:54 PM

There are some scary photos of the incident around on the web too! We didn't have the rights to publish them, but have a look at this...


magic_idol 10-12-2014 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magic_idol (Post 1001150)
Fawkner for me @ the minute anyone like anything else ?

On Target !!!:tro:

my miss storm cat 10-13-2014 03:23 PM

I guess Brambles is opting for the David Jones Cup on Saturday? (Don't judge me, I like him!).

Not sure who I like for the Caulfield Cup yet but for the Cox Plate am thinking The Cleaner... :)

Kitan 10-13-2014 08:11 PM

1 ADMIRE RAKTI (JPN) Tomoyuki Umeda Zac Purton 58kg
2 DANDINO (GB) Marco Botti Craig Williams 57kg
3 GREEN MOON (IRE) Robert Hickmott Chad Schofield 57kg
4 SEA MOON (GB) Robert Hickmott Steven Arnold 57kg
5 BANDE (IRE) Yoshito Yahagi Christophe Lemaire 56.5kg
6 THE OFFER (IRE) Gai Waterhouse Tommy Berry 56.5kg
7 SEISMOS (IRE) Marco Botti Craig Newitt 56kg
8 HAWKSPUR Chris Waller Damien Oliver 55.5kg
9 JUNOOB (GB) Chris Waller Douglas Whyte 55.5kg 1.5kg
10 MORIARTY (IRE) Chris Waller Michael Rodd 55kg
11 WHO SHOT THEBARMAN (NZ) Chris Waller Glen Boss 55kg 1.5kg
12 DEAR DEMI Clarry Conners Jim Cassidy 54.5kg
13 STIPULATE (GB) David Hayes & Tom Dabernig Dwayne Dunn 54kg
14 LIDARI (FR) Peter G Moody 53.5kg
15 LUCIA VALENTINA (NZ) Kris Lees Kerrin McEvoy 53kg
16 RISING ROMANCE (NZ) Donna Logan James McDonald 53kg
17 BIG MEMORY (FR) Tony McEvoy Corey Brown 52kg
18 GRIS CARO (GB) Jake Stephens Joao Moreira 52kg
19e BRAMBLES (NZ) Peter G Moody 53.5kg
20e ARALDO (GB) Michael Moroney 53kg
21e UNCHAIN MY HEART David Hayes & Tom Dabernig 52kg
22e RENEW (IRE) Marco Botti 52kg

my miss storm cat 10-14-2014 03:41 PM

Form:

http://www.racingandsports.com.au/en...&meeting=48882

Arletta 10-14-2014 06:01 PM

I will be yet one of many cheering on "The Cleaner" :)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-1...?section=sport

Arletta 10-14-2014 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1001205)
Check this out (and, for the record, it was written by ed :tro: )...

Japanese star attacked by stablemate

http://www.theinformant.co.nz/racing...-by-stablemate :eek:

Looks like they Japanese really don't know what their doing over there. They almost cause a collision today with Red Cadeaux by galloping slow on the inside of the track :zz:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/su...-1227090190679

magic_idol 10-15-2014 03:05 AM

I Have 3 ................;)
LUCIA VALENTINA (NZ) ...Watch this horse last ride absolutely Perfect Top pick deserves to be !!!
BANDE (IRE) ...Know Sweet FA about this horse but if you study form has gotta be a Good Chance !!
JUNOOB (GB) ....Down Right Honest Underdog...Amazing how many times a underdog will Bite you on the Bum !!!! Good Chance for your multiples :tro:

my miss storm cat 10-15-2014 12:12 PM

Good luck, Magic man! I tossed Bande so he's got a good shot now. :p

God help me I cannot toss Brambles so will do a win bet on him regardless of everything else. Rooting for Rising Romance and Who Shot Thebarman BUT in terms of trying to cap this? I don't think either hits the board this time.

Am thinking either Big Memory or Dear Demi wins and will be using Junoob (Doug Whyte up!) and Lucia Valentina underneath.

Of course there's still time...

magic_idol 10-15-2014 03:08 PM

Yes I Love Dear Demi.........But on Last run have my doubts she can see the Distance:confused:

my miss storm cat 10-15-2014 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magic_idol (Post 1002252)
Yes I Love Dear Demi.........But on Last run have my doubts she can see the Distance:confused:

I looked at Bande again and it's just that I can see him going right to the front and staying there till he's swallowed up.

Even with Zac up, I'm having a hard time seeing the other Japanese runner, Admire Rakti, win this having been off since May.

Confused about the status of Brambles... is he now in?

Very excited to see Bel Sprinter back (obviously in the sprint). I think I'll sit that one out but I do hope he's recovered (and yes I know he won his barrier trial but it wasn't too competitive a field, was it?).

I'm ignoring two horses I like very much... Moriarty (have been disappointed by him so many times now) and Gris Caro (sooo pretty). :D Thoughts on either? I'm not seeing them or the Moon horses having much of a say here but would be interested to hear if you think either might jump up and grab a piece of it.

my miss storm cat 10-15-2014 06:48 PM

adrian dunn @adriandunn2 · 45m 45 minutes ago
With Gris Caro out of Caul Cup, Brambles gain runs but there is jockey change - Luke Nolen rides Brambles Ben Melham Lidari @TVNTVN #rnnews

adrian dunn @adriandunn2 · 54m 54 minutes ago
Breaking news: Gris Caro will be scratched from the Caulfield Cup. Lameness issues. Brambles will now gain a start. TVNTVN #rnnews

Benny 10-15-2014 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1002275)
adrian dunn @adriandunn2 · 45m 45 minutes ago
With Gris Caro out of Caul Cup, Brambles gain runs but there is jockey change - Luke Nolen rides Brambles Ben Melham Lidari @TVNTVN #rnnews

adrian dunn @adriandunn2 · 54m 54 minutes ago
Breaking news: Gris Caro will be scratched from the Caulfield Cup. Lameness issues. Brambles will now gain a start. TVNTVN #rnnews

DANDINO out, lame.

http://www.racingandsports.com.au/caulfieldcup/

my miss storm cat 10-16-2014 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1002292)

That's a shame.

Kitan 10-16-2014 12:39 AM

On first look:

#11 Who Shot Thebarman: Rapidly rose through the grades in NZ and has been the Boss (pun...) since switching to Victoria. G1 and G2 winner across the Tasman so the recent grade rise isn't a worry.
#4 Sea Moon: Royal Ascot winner over Dunaden and Red Cadeaux...his two best runs Down Under were at this distance and while he was one-paced in last he was first up for 7 months. Will be ridiculously huge odds.
#19 Brambles: Used the winter to get back into race shape. G1 winner at 12f prior to the two years off so the class has been there.
#9 Junoob is IMO better than The Offer (odds agree) and check out the jockey. Dangerous if he can find his form outside of Sydney.

Seismos is a G1 winner and should sit a great trip. May not be this quality but can run a place....Lucia Valentina will be coming with her one run but will it be enough?...Rising Romance is rounding back into form and gets better with more distance...Araldo ran a good one without ever really threatening to win but can spice up the exotics again.

Admire Rakti will need the run...Green Moon is way out of form...I'm not sure Bande has really beaten much...The Offer beat some weak fields back in April...Hawkspur won the G1 Queensland Derby at 12f but he got a perfect run that day and didn't beat much...Moriarty won last out but is inconsistent...Dear Demi was third last year but tough to have based on her last...distance is a concern for Stipulate...Lidari has a good record at 12f but that was against inferior (in fact, one of those runs shows on the form line of Gris Caro)...Big Memory won a G2 last time but doesn't have this type of class...Unchain My Heart and Renew don't have the quality...

my miss storm cat 10-16-2014 07:29 PM

Bande out, Unchain My Heart in:

http://www.thoroughbrednews.com.au/a....aspx?id=76307

my miss storm cat 10-16-2014 10:09 PM

:wf

Andrew Hawkins ‏@AndrewNJHawkins · 2m2 minutes ago
Dear Demi gone too! Madness... #CaulfieldCup #horseracing

magic_idol 10-17-2014 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1002370)
:wf

Andrew Hawkins ‏@AndrewNJHawkins · 2m2 minutes ago
Dear Demi gone too! Madness... #CaulfieldCup #horseracing

Not surprised considering could only pace with dissident & he bleed;)

my miss storm cat 10-17-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magic_idol (Post 1002376)
Not surprised considering could only pace with dissident & he bleed;)

:p

Okay well I am all Caulfield Cup'd out at this point... I've had to start over cause the race has completely changed and I am still iffy on who will go forward with Bande out. Not feeling too confident on anything so am only playing a couple of tiny things and will leave it at that.

Was going to play Randwick as well (why is La Amistad of 4/1?) but instead of being all over the place will ONLY play my one sentimental horse, Hera (race 8, m/l is 10/1 and should go higher).

I'm thinking with so many out now I do think she has a better chance so will do a tri with Rising Romance and Big Miracle on top, Lucia Valentina in the 2nd spot and then use Brambles, Junoob, Moriarty, Who Shot Thebarman, Big Memory and Rising Romance underneath.

Have to do a tiny w/p with Brambles.

I don't feel too good about any of this so cut my bets in half and now they're microscopic. :D

Good luck tonight Magic, Coachie, Dagolfer, Kitan et al.

Oct. 17, 2014 03:06 PM 344ED4C37389 Online Gaming Aus A Caulfield 9 $6.00 WP 19 $12.00

Oct. 17, 2014 03:05 PM 704EA2BD7389 Online Gaming Aus A Caulfield 9 $1.00 TR 16,17 / 15 / 9,10,11,16,17,19 $10.00

Oct. 17, 2014 02:37 PM FC49F3937389 Online Gaming Aus B Randwick 8 $6.00 WP 1 $12.00

Kitan 10-17-2014 08:37 PM

1A: #3 Berimbau & #11 Kansas Sunflower
2A: #4 Thief of Hearts & #6 Careless
3A: #3 Maastricht
4A: #4 Magicool & #13 Crafty
5A: #9 Under The Louvre w/ #6 Leebaz & #8 Generalife
6A: #8 Girl In Flight
7A: #13 Pinstripe Lane & #11 Midsummer Sun w/ #9 Signoff & #6 Jacquinot Bay
8A: #6 Pago Rock
9A: See above...#11 Who Shot Thebarman & #4 Sea Moon w/ #19 Brambles, #9 Junoob, #17 Seismos...et al...
10A: #11 The Messina Nymph w/ #3 Anatina & #4 Cradle Me

Good luck!

Benny 10-17-2014 11:27 PM

Havenot played aussies in many moons. Where can you see changes in equipment ? it's not listed with scratches. commentators said the 5 had blinkers back on in he 5th race at Caulfield, but i see nothing. feel like a newbie :confused:

Kitan 10-17-2014 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1002499)
Havenot played aussies in many moons. Where can you see changes in equipment ? it's not listed with scratches. commentators said the 5 had blinkers back on in he 5th race at Caulfield, but i see nothing. feel like a newbie :confused:

http://www.racenet.com.au/racing-gear-changes/

Find the race meeting and click on "Gears"

magic_idol 10-18-2014 12:13 AM

Green Moon Scares Me !!!..... lol Sweet Idea..... SWEET AS !!!!

Benny 10-18-2014 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1002500)
http://www.racenet.com.au/racing-gear-changes/

Find the race meeting and click on "Gears"

Thanks , eh ;)

up$10 for the nite - going 9 11 15 / 4 9 11 15 17 19 good luck

my miss storm cat 10-18-2014 10:28 AM

Congrats to anyone if they had it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 1002483)
I'll try Rising Romance in the Caulfield Cup.

Enjoy the racing.

Hope you were smarter than I was and played her across the board.

Replay...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvzAM...TeAHoIqbTIwYJA

Kitan 10-18-2014 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1002484)
1A: #3 Berimbau & #11 Kansas Sunflower
2A: #4 Thief of Hearts & #6 Careless
3A: #3 Maastricht
4A: #4 Magicool & #13 Crafty
5A: #9 Under The Louvre w/ #6 Leebaz & #8 Generalife
6A: #8 Girl In Flight
7A: #13 Pinstripe Lane & #11 Midsummer Sun w/ #9 Signoff & #6 Jacquinot Bay
8A: #6 Pago Rock
9A: See above...#11 Who Shot Thebarman & #4 Sea Moon w/ #19 Brambles, #9 Junoob, #17 Seismos...et al...
10A: #11 The Messina Nymph w/ #3 Anatina & #4 Cradle Me

Good luck!

Thank goodness for that last race...!

What a run by Admire Rakti though!!

my miss storm cat 10-18-2014 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1002592)
Thank goodness for that last race...!

What a run by Admire Rakti though!!

Congrats on that last race!

my miss storm cat 10-19-2014 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1002010)
Not sure who I like for the Caulfield Cup yet but for the Cox Plate am thinking The Cleaner... :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 1002148)
I will be yet one of many cheering on "The Cleaner" :)

On our boy: :D

How a $10,000 nag and the only man he loves became cult heroes

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/features...-1227094961287

Arletta 10-19-2014 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1002857)
On our boy: :D

How a $10,000 nag and the only man he loves became cult heroes

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/features...-1227094961287

Love it! What a great underdog story he is! :{>:

magic_idol 10-20-2014 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 1002887)
Watching how wide the horses were spanned at the top of the Caulfield Cup straight reminded me of the 2005 Cox Plate.

I would love to see Trakus numbers for the first two finishers.

Replayed the race in slow mo this morning poor old Lucia did everything wrong !!! :-( but was still easily outpace by the winner ;)

Arletta 10-20-2014 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1002857)
On our boy: :D

How a $10,000 nag and the only man he loves became cult heroes

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/features...-1227094961287

Draws post #14.. No horse has ever won it form #14 :wf

my miss storm cat 10-21-2014 07:16 PM

Hope he does well!

No idea if I'll be betting him... I've only just seen the field but I shall root for him nonetheless. :)

Field:

http://www.racingandsports.com.au/en...&meeting=49215

... and the outstanding field for the Manikato...

http://www.sportsnews.com.au/horse-r...ld-2014/127806

Arletta 10-22-2014 05:40 AM

The Cleaner Cox Plate drinking game :D


"The rules of the game:
1. You may only drink Tasmanian beers.

2. When required to drink, you must finish your beer with the same speed and courage with which The Cleaner finishes his races (penalise shirkers as you see fit)
. "


http://www.punters.com.au/news/The-C...g-game_132080/

my miss storm cat 10-22-2014 11:55 AM

Looking at Criterion or Sacred Falls for the Cox Plate and Buffering or Bounding for the Manikato (will be using Platelet somewhere underneath)...


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