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ontheoutside 07-17-2014 04:01 PM

Here's my plays for Saratoga
 
3rd race going to use fashion alert with all with all 1 dollar pick 3
4th race #6 m b and tee 10 win place
5th race #2 my afleet 10 win place
6th race #8 grame crackers 20 win 40 place
7th race #2 monument hill 15 win 30 place
8th race #4 kiss me lola 10 win 20 place
i think if everything runs my pick 3 will cos 80

RockHardTen1985 07-17-2014 04:14 PM

I think you're pick in the 6th has a chance, though the 1 and chalk will both be very tough. I think Lukas filly can beat Fashion Alert. Fashion ALert was super impressive, but she has to be 1-5 or lower. Any of these can move forward and be competitive.

pointman 07-17-2014 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 987291)
I think you're pick in the 6th has a chance, though the 1 and chalk will both be very tough. I think Lukas filly can beat Fashion Alert. Fashion ALert was super impressive, but she has to be 1-5 or lower. Any of these can move forward and be competitive.

I suppose the Lukas is possible if the NYRA stewards grant him permission to put jet packs on the filly.

ateamstupid 07-17-2014 04:46 PM

I like My Afleet too. I think if Can'thelpbelieving doesn't win that race, it's ripe for a big price.

RockHardTen1985 07-18-2014 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 987296)
I suppose the Lukas is possible if the NYRA stewards grant him permission to put jet packs on the filly.

Its 5 babies. Anything can happen Joseph.
And like I said the chalk was super impressive first out.

ontheoutside 07-18-2014 06:50 PM

winning day on picks i posted
 
bet a total of 255 for day got back 395
my picks were 3rd 1 dollar pick 3 wheel 4 all all got 35
4th 6 10 w/p got 0
5th 2 10 w/p got 37
6th 8 20w 40p got 226
7th 2 15w 30p got 54
8th 4 10w 20p got 43
plus 140 for day
for saturday
2nd 9 40w
3rd 3 10w 20p
5th 8 10 w p
6th 10 20w 40p
7th 7 20w 40p
8th 2 20w 40p also ex key 29//24891011 3 dollar ex cost 30
9th 3 10w p also 3 5 7 3 dollar ex bx
10th 1 10 w p also 1 7 8 3 dollar ex bx
11th 10 10w p
all total for day 396
good luck with all your picks

RockHardTen1985 07-18-2014 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 987296)
I suppose the Lukas is possible if the NYRA stewards grant him permission to put jet packs on the filly.

I thought they both ran fine. 2nd career starts and all.

RockHardTen1985 07-18-2014 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 987626)
bet a total of 255 for day got back 395
my picks were 3rd 1 dollar pick 3 wheel 4 all all got 35
4th 6 10 w/p got 0
5th 2 10 w/p got 37
6th 8 20w 40p got 226
7th 2 15w 30p got 54
8th 4 10w 20p got 43
plus 140 for day
for saturday
2nd 9 40w
3rd 3 10w 20p
5th 8 10 w p
6th 10 20w 40p
7th 7 20w 40p
8th 2 20w 40p also ex key 29//24891011 3 dollar ex cost 30
9th 3 10w p also 3 5 7 3 dollar ex bx
10th 1 10 w p also 1 7 8 3 dollar ex bx
11th 10 10w p
all total for day 396
good luck with all your picks

You did well. I liked the horse in the 6th and did OK. Rick V babies up here are an angle of mine, 4-1 is just a bonus. If a price had won the 7th I would have cleaned it up. If the Lukas filly wins the Stakes its an epic day.
Post you're plays for tomorrow, ill give feedback.

RockHardTen1985 07-18-2014 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 987626)
bet a total of 255 for day got back 395
my picks were 3rd 1 dollar pick 3 wheel 4 all all got 35
4th 6 10 w/p got 0
5th 2 10 w/p got 37
6th 8 20w 40p got 226
7th 2 15w 30p got 54
8th 4 10w 20p got 43
plus 140 for day
for saturday
2nd 9 40w
3rd 3 10w 20p
5th 8 10 w p
6th 10 20w 40p
7th 7 20w 40p
8th 2 20w 40p also ex key 29//24891011 3 dollar ex cost 30
9th 3 10w p also 3 5 7 3 dollar ex bx
10th 1 10 w p also 1 7 8 3 dollar ex bx
11th 10 10w p
all total for day 396
good luck with all your picks


Ill just comment on the races you posted picks in.
Race 2- I would not bet the 9 if you gave me the money to bet him with. Huge money burner, none of his first 3 races win this. His last does. Tough decision, right? Well off the layoff and at a short price its an easy one for me. I think the 2 and 5 are very logical alternatives and even the 3 if you're playing multi race wagers. I actually might play the 1-3 pick 3 with the main focus being beating the 9 in the 2nd, especially if he is like 4-5 or something crazy.
Race 3- Im with you on the 3. I guess the 5 or 6 could win, especially the 6 getting back to a fast track... But Im going to guess a well connected firster is better then both of them. Im going to try to cash the pick 3 using 2,3,4
Race 5- No real opinion here. I guess I would use 1,6,8. I can see why you like the 8 though. Brad Cox is always dangerous.
Race 6- I like the 3,10,12. Im probably going to start a pick 3 in this race, I believe one of them wins it.
Race 7- Im pressing 7,8 and using a little 3,4 as a backup.
Race 8- I dont like you're pick in here either. Im using 4 or 5 horses in the multis and I wont have the 2. Ill be using some combo of 4,6,8,11,12
Race 9- I like the 4. I think he wires the field. Ill use a little 8, he was very good at one point. The 3 has back races that win this, Im just not sure there is enough pace.
Race 10- Im using 3,4,5,6,10 and hoping the best price wins.
Good luck tomorrow.

ontheoutside 07-19-2014 06:55 PM

went o fer today good fri terrible today
 
yesterday +145
today --396
total --251

sunday plays for me
1st 5 10-20
2nd 5 10-20
3rd 2 10-20
4th 2 10-10
5th 3 30-60
6th 4 10-20
6th 24//28//368 2 dollar pk 3
7th 8 10-30
8th 6 10-30
8th 368//236#12//23 2 dollar pk 3
9th 3 20-50
9th 236#12//23//156#12 1 dollar pk 3
10th 3 40-100
10th 23 20ex bx
11th 5 10-20
total if everything runs i beleive is 684
good luck with all your picks
rock jms point knick lions and whoever else i forgot
you guys really are right on with all opinions

keep this horse in mind for tues at mountaineer lotta heat 3rd race

ontheoutside 07-20-2014 06:21 PM

bad sunday for me
 
going into sunday --251
today lost a whopping 528
total going into monday779---
monday plays
1st 10 double 258//268
1st 5 ex bx 258
2nd 5 ex bx 268
3rd 10-20 1
4th 10-20 8
5th 10-20 3
6th 10-20 1
7th 10-10 2
8th 10-10 3
9th 10-20 1 total if everyone runs 340
good luck

RockHardTen1985 07-20-2014 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 988190)
going into sunday --251
today lost a whopping 528
total going into monday779---
monday plays
1st 10 double 258//268
1st 5 ex bx 258
2nd 5 ex bx 268
3rd 10-20 1
4th 10-20 8
5th 10-20 3
6th 10-20 1
7th 10-10 2
8th 10-10 3
9th 10-20 1 total if everyone runs 340
good luck

I like the 8 a lot in race 1. Turnback should help.....
In race 2 I think the 2 is probably the horse to beat. No real opinion though.

jms62 07-21-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 988190)
going into sunday --251
today lost a whopping 528
total going into monday779---
monday plays
1st 10 double 258//268
1st 5 ex bx 258
2nd 5 ex bx 268
3rd 10-20 1
4th 10-20 8
5th 10-20 3
6th 10-20 1
7th 10-10 2
8th 10-10 3
9th 10-20 1 total if everyone runs 340
good luck

Squarely back in the black for the meet. Nice :tro:

ontheoutside 07-21-2014 05:53 PM

monday results for me
 
had a scratch in the 4th so my total bet for day went from 340 to 310
only 2 winning bets but i hit them good
hit the early double forr 166.50 had it 5 times
also collected in the 5th 70 dollars on a winner
so 832 on the double
70 on the five race

902 total ---310 bet
plus 592 for the day


going in to the day i was minus 779
592 plus today
for week ---187 now

jms62 07-21-2014 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 988383)
had a scratch in the 4th so my total bet for day went from 340 to 310
only 2 winning bets but i hit them good
hit the early double forr 166.50 had it 5 times
also collected in the 5th 70 dollars on a winner
so 832 on the double
70 on the five race

902 total ---310 bet
plus 592 for the day


going in to the day i was minus 779
592 plus today
for week ---187 now

Check your account, you also hit the Exacta in the 2nd. Bonus.

ontheoutside 07-22-2014 05:20 AM

opps your right jms
 
thanks for catching it
i forgot about that i think because i was so excited about hitting the double
so i got to knock off [lets see the exacta payed 46.40
so 116 on exacta

so new figure going into the new week is ---71

not going to put this toward the saratoga meet plus or minus
but i do like aa horse tonight at mountaineer i beleive its the 3rd race #9 lotta heat im betting 20-60

ontheoutside 07-22-2014 06:58 PM

wensday picks for me --71 for meet sara
 
wow almost got even for meet with a 167 double 5 times on monday
so i got all loses back
this card does not excite me
but ill stab small money byt they are stabs
the 1st 4 races i got to beleive chalk rules
1st #2 5w/10p
1st 27//7 10 dd
1st 4//7 20dd
3rd 5/1 10ex
3rd 5/6 20ex
4th 7 10w/20p
5th 23 10ex bx
6th 3 10w/10p
7th 4 10w/10p
8th 7 10w/20p
9th 7 30w
10th 6 10w/10p
10th 3-5-10-11 3 dollar ex bx
all toll 291 bet
good luck

ontheoutside 07-22-2014 07:17 PM

hope you crushed lotta heat
 
told everyone to watch this horse tonight at mountain
didnt pay much 7 and change
won by 9 going away
hope you had him

ontheoutside 07-23-2014 06:32 PM

wens bet 251 won back 222
 
after 40 dollars in scratches i lost 29 for day

had 30 win on 7 in 9th just got nosed
oh well

minus a even 100 for meet
picks for thursday
1st 2 5w/5p
2nd 3 10w/10p
3rd 2 20w/40p
4th 3 10w/10p
5th 2 10w/10p
6th 2 20w/40p
7th 3 10w/20p
7th 2/3/5/11 3 dollar ex bx
8th 5 10w/20p
9th 4 20w/40p
10th 11 10w/20p
if everything runs 358 good luck to all even you helocopter

ScottJ 07-23-2014 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 988682)
had 30 win on 7 in 9th just got nosed
oh well

That photo crushed me today - Alan Garcia runs down Luis Saez. It has been that kind of week. Better programs ahead!

Port Conway Lane 07-23-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 988682)
after 40 dollars in scratches i lost 29 for day

had 30 win on 7 in 9th just got nosed
oh well

minus a even 100 for meet
picks for thursday
1st 2 5w/5p
2nd 3 10w/10p
3rd 2 20w/40p
4th 3 10w/10p
5th 2 10w/10p
6th 2 20w/40p
7th 3 10w/20p
7th 2/3/5/11 3 dollar ex bx
8th 5 10w/20p
9th 4 20w/40p
10th 11 10w/20p
if everything runs 358 good luck to all even you helocopter

:tro:Classic...GL

ontheoutside 07-24-2014 06:47 PM

no good thursday
 
got 20 off because of scratch in 5th
so my total was 338 instead of 358
and i only collected 189
so i lose thurs 169
was losing 100 going in
so going inot friday my number for meet is ---269

ontheoutside 07-24-2014 07:05 PM

mine for friday 7-25-
 
1st 2 10/10
2nd 8 10/10
3rd 7 10/20
4th 3 10/20
5th 3 10/10
6th 3 60w
7th 4 20/40
8th 3 10/20
9th 9 10/20
10th 8 10/10
if all run total of 320 bet --269 for meet so far
good luck everyone

ontheoutside 07-25-2014 05:31 PM

another bad one for me
 
--269 going in
today on these plays above bet 320 total and only hit one race
got back 209 so minus 118
then i went in the playaround today and dropped 192
with some doubling up on wagers
so total for today was minus310 minus 269 going in

total for season so far 579
plays for saturday later

ontheoutside 07-25-2014 09:04 PM

picks for saturday
 
1st nothing
2nd 10 10w 10p
3rd 3 10w 20p
4th 4 10w 20p
5th 4 10w 20p
6th 12 10w 10p
7th 3 10w 10p
8th 5 10w 10p
9th 4 10w 10p
10th 4 // 5-8 10 dd 4//7 20 dd 4//1 5 dd
thats it for me total 235

ontheoutside 07-27-2014 11:36 AM

minus again for sat
 
bet 235 got back 98 so minus 137 for day was minus 579 going in
so minus 716 for meet
today sunday
1st 2 20w
2nd 2 10w 10p
3rd 6 10w 20p
4th 1 10w 10p
5th 4 10w 20p
6th 6 20w 50p
7th 12 10w 10p
8th 1 20w 50p
9th 2 20w 50p
10th 9 15w 30p
total 395 good luck

ontheoutside 07-27-2014 05:07 PM

another bad one on sunday for me monday plays
 
minus 139 for day total for meet 855
monday plays

1st 2 10-20
2nd 5 10-10
3rd 1 40 w
4th 7 20-40
5th 1 20-60
6th 5 10-20
7th 9 10-20
8th 256 5 ex bx
8th 1// 256 10 key bx
8th 2 20-40
8th 2//156 5ex straight
8th 256//45 10dd
9th 4 10-20
hospital for me tommorrow hope all are doing better then myself
good luck to everyone

jms62 07-27-2014 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 989704)
minus 139 for day total for meet 855
monday plays

1st 2 10-20
2nd 5 10-10
3rd 1 40 w
4th 7 20-40
5th 1 20-60
6th 5 10-20
7th 9 10-20
8th 256 5 ex bx
8th 1// 256 10 key bx
8th 2 20-40
8th 2//156 5ex straight
8th 256//45 10dd
9th 4 10-20
hospital for me tommorrow hope all are doing better then myself
good luck to everyone

Dug a hole for myself also... Keep firing we will turn it around.

ontheoutside 07-27-2014 05:24 PM

thanks jms
 
i know you will jms your solid this keeps me going win or lose
i was able to stretch a nice career where im ok moneywise
so i always take at beginning of saratoga 15000 and put it in my account
and beleive ive lost it all more then once
but one year i was able to get it to 52000 so i wont 37 that year
i was betting pk 3 and 4 back then ive shyed away from theose bets in recent years
just basicly a straight player now
thanks for the encouragement
and have a wonderfull day tommorrow

on a side note
i cant go to track anymore because walking for me is extreamly tough
i used to get in the backstretch everymorning until 911 came
i used to go up with a real good handicapper by the name of joe winney
hes passed since
but boy those mornings wed get there at 530 and just hang around clair court
talking with h a jerkins rick schosberg billy mott would cross his horses over to the track
it just seemed like heaven to me that air and experience
could park car in parking lot and put chair in front of car and bet and watch on tv
and when they were over you were on the highway in 2 mins but most of all no walking
do you know if you can still get in? or is it different now
i would love some day to be ableto experience it one more time
thanks jms and have a positive day monday

ontheoutside 07-28-2014 05:28 PM

monday down tubes
 
bet 545 got 60 back in scratch 7 hose in 4th
brings it to 485 bet got back150
so i lose 335 on monday

was 855 minus now for meet im 1190 to the bad

not great news at hospital today but hey im livin

good luck everyone and jms get on a streak kis

ontheoutside 07-30-2014 07:34 AM

new week my plays for wensday
 
2nd 6 10 40
4th 7 10 40
5th 4 10 30
6th 3 60 150 bigeest bet of year so far
7th 3 10 30
8th 8 30 80
9th 9 30 80
10th 8 10 30

side note del mar 7th 3 20 60 15-1odds
good luck everyone

Rudeboyelvis 07-30-2014 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 990053)
2nd 6 10 40
4th 7 10 40
5th 4 10 30
6th 3 60 150 bigeest bet of year so far
7th 3 10 30
8th 8 30 80
9th 9 30 80
10th 8 10 30

side note del mar 7th 3 20 60 15-1odds
good luck everyone

Sharp pick, thought I was seeing things when the m/l was printed - hope we get close to that price..Good Luck there

ontheoutside 07-30-2014 03:12 PM

which one rube?
 
the delmar one? its got to be because i am poison at the spa
o fer again so far today
good luck with your picks throughout the season

Rudeboyelvis 07-30-2014 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 990157)
the delmar one? its got to be because i am poison at the spa
o fer again so far today
good luck with your picks throughout the season

Yup, Del Mar - had circled him this morning - he gave the 8 all he wanted in the mdn breaker until practically bolting the turn, 3-4 wide trip the whole way last. If they have him figured out, he fits at what ought to be a nice price.

And it's not the first time i've been called a Rube ;)

Good Luck

ontheoutside 07-30-2014 07:39 PM

another 0 fer
 
bet 650 got back 110 in scratch
lose 540 for day
minus 1730 for meet

i think im the worst in the forum

dagolfer33 07-30-2014 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 990229)
.............

i think im the worst in the forum


I doubt you will ever be able to achieve that distinction. :)

geeker2 07-30-2014 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 990237)
I doubt you will ever be able to achieve that distinction. :)

I laughed :tro:

ontheoutside 07-30-2014 09:24 PM

here goes nothing
 
2nd 6 20 60
3rd 1 20-60
4th 3 20-60
5th 1 20-60
6th 1 20-60
7th 8 40-80
7th 8 #12 10 ex bx
8th 8 50-100
9th 1 20-60
9th 1-7-8 10 ex bx
10th 8 20-60
10th 5 10-10
10th 5-8-9 5 ex bx
total 1060
good luck

geeker2 07-30-2014 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside (Post 990241)
2nd 6 20 60
3rd 1 20-60
4th 3 20-60
5th 1 20-60
6th 1 20-60
7th 8 40-80
7th 8 #12 10 ex bx
8th 8 50-100
9th 1 20-60
9th 1-7-8 10 ex bx
10th 8 20-60
10th 5 10-10
10th 5-8-9 5 ex bx
total 1060
good luck

ok after that post you might be the worst :D:p;)

dagolfer33 07-30-2014 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 990238)
I laughed :tro:

:D


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