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DaTruth 06-07-2014 06:07 PM

California Chrome's owner just blew any goodwill.
 
He should have congratulated the connections of Tonalist and then shut up.

keithting 06-07-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 981989)
He should have congratulated the connections of Tonalist and then shut up.

I agree !!

robfla 06-07-2014 06:10 PM

His wife tried to shut him up, but he would have none of it.

Indian Charlie 06-07-2014 06:11 PM

Medal Count finished ahead of Chrome.

I seem to recall him running in the Derby.

IrishofNDMan 06-07-2014 06:11 PM

America is soft....

tiggerv 06-07-2014 06:12 PM

Amazingly foolish. The good news is I don't feel so bad he lost

pointman 06-07-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan (Post 982000)
America is soft....

:tro:

skippy3481 06-07-2014 06:14 PM

Take your horse and go home. It's not fair.....wtf.

Seattleallstar 06-07-2014 06:16 PM

He blew it all in two minutes, the Jackass suits him just fine

DaTruth 06-07-2014 06:19 PM

Coburn will probably challenge Evans to a fight before he leaves the track.

Left Bank 06-07-2014 06:32 PM

Sore loser, big time!

miraja2 06-07-2014 06:58 PM

A lot of the non-horse racing people on social media seem to think he made a good argument. All of the horse racing people strenuously disagree.

I don't condemn the guy toooo much. Obviously it's a tough moment to do an interview. But if a person is going to relish all the positive media attention as much as that guy has the past few weeks, he should probably be prepared to be at least a little gracious when the media comes calling in a tough moment.

Many Others 06-07-2014 07:06 PM

He should have been more prepared, there's no situation where a No Comment won't suffice in expressing your feelings good or bad sigh...

Merlinsky 06-07-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 982030)
A lot of the non-horse racing people on social media seem to think he made a good argument. All of the horse racing people strenuously disagree.

I don't condemn the guy toooo much. Obviously it's a tough moment to do an interview. But if a person is going to relish all the positive media attention as much as that guy has the past few weeks, he should probably be prepared to be at least a little gracious when the media comes calling in a tough moment.

He probably would've been gracious if he'd lost the Preakness since the Derby was his big dream and it came true. Then you don't win the Preakness but you're the little guy who had a great moment. He starts feeling his media oats, all of them telling him what a great story he is, and he starts to believe the hype. Despite the story and the press, though, this just didn't have the heat behind it that Smarty Jones, Funny Cide, or even Big Brown had. I don't think it was the California-ness of it all. Didn't stop Zenyatta hype. Not sure what to blame it on, but I did notice that.

My parents were all 'yeah he's right' and have always tried to grumble that not enough horses run in all 3 races, that they ought to require participation or something. I try to tell them that's not a thing and wouldn't work, but they never get it. I told them Tonalist and Commissioner's owners would've gone in the Derby if they could've, it wasn't like they ditched it with healthy points-eligible horses.

declansharbor 06-07-2014 07:12 PM

The ol' built-in, manufactured excuse as a defense mechanism.

Salt, if you ask me.

Frost King 06-07-2014 07:15 PM

Do you really believe that the "Triple Crown Racing Gods" we're going to let him in the room?

3kings 06-07-2014 07:15 PM

I loved the horse and the story. In the end cheaply bred horse and owners.

10 pnt move up 06-07-2014 07:28 PM

The happiest people of all today are the blue blood breeders....last thing they wanted was some hick to spoil their party. I dont even know who the owners of that horse are but my guess is they are not some new shooter to the game and probably have some of that blue blood.

Coburn was awesome, sounded like lots of people I have been around at the track when their horse loses.

Left Bank 06-07-2014 07:43 PM

SO, it will be interesting to see if, after making such comments, if this crew will campaign Chrome in the other upcoming 3 year old races. Will they take on all comers at Monmouth, or Saratoga, or will they take their ball and go home to softer competition in southern California state bred races?

Danzig 06-07-2014 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 982051)
SO, it will be interesting to see if, after making such comments, if this crew will campaign Chrome in the other upcoming 3 year old races. Will they take on all comers at Monmouth, or Saratoga, or will they take their ball and go home to softer competition in southern California state bred races?

Why would they do that? The horse has proven he belongs in top tier racing. Of course you race him as such.

I doubt the comments lose him much goodwill. Of course he was devastated, a lot of people say things in the heat of the moment they later regret. In his view, it used to be horses ran in all three. So, most tc winners beat the same competition three times. Would affirmed have won the Belmont over alydar had the latter skipped the Preakness? An intriguing rhetorical question..

10 pnt move up 06-07-2014 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 982051)
SO, it will be interesting to see if, after making such comments, if this crew will campaign Chrome in the other upcoming 3 year old races. Will they take on all comers at Monmouth, or Saratoga, or will they take their ball and go home to softer competition in southern California state bred races?

Yea this horse has not taken on all comers to date. 3 races in 5 weeks in Ky, Md, and NY.......and now if he races back where he is from he would be ducking something?

Danzig 06-07-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 982057)
Yea this horse has not taken on all comers to date. 3 races in 5 weeks in Ky, Md, and NY.......and now if he races back where he is from he would be ducking something?

And they ran him in the Santa Anita derby even tho they didn't need to. They're not afraid to race.

fpsoxfan 06-07-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by arizonadave (Post 982059)
How many of us,as horseplayers, have said dumb things about other horses,jockeys and owners when we lose.Its part of the game.Look at some of the posts in this forum when a person loses. We are lucky that there isn't a mic stuck in our face.

Agree....I'm willing to give him a pass, it's just his argument was ridiculous.

JimmyEllis 06-07-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan (Post 982074)
Agree....I'm willing to give him a pass, it's just his argument was ridiculous.

Exactly. And it's unofficial but word has it Adam Silver is thinking about changing the NBA playoff format with TC model in mind.

King Glorious 06-07-2014 08:42 PM

Earlier in the week, Sherman was saying he didn't see another Eastern trip in the cards for the horse. He said he needed to get him back to where he's comfortable and was looking at the Pacific Classic and BC to close the year.

alysheba4 06-07-2014 08:44 PM

horse isnt worthy........period. this is a dreadful group.

Aly-Sheba 06-07-2014 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 982011)
Coburn will probably challenge Evans to a fight before he leaves the track.

I hope not Evans couldn't even lift the trophy

Seattleallstar 06-07-2014 09:17 PM

this still upsets me

Seattleallstar 06-07-2014 09:24 PM

Native Dancer, Nashua, Damascus, Riva Ridge, Bold Forbes, Swale, Risen Star, Tabasco Cat, Thunder Gulch, Point Given, Afleet Alex. They managed to run in all the races and put in nice performances in the Belmont

Danzig 06-07-2014 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 982096)
Native Dancer, Nashua, Damascus, Riva Ridge, Bold Forbes, Swale, Risen Star, Tabasco Cat, Thunder Gulch, Point Given, Afleet Alex. They managed to run in all the races and put in nice performances in the Belmont

And your point is?

DaTruth 06-07-2014 10:06 PM

If you are going to call other connections cowards for skipping or missing the Derby and Preakness, then you should at least show up for one of the next two major dances.

Danzig 06-07-2014 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 982104)
If you are going to call other connections cowards for skipping or missing the Derby and Preakness, then you should at least show up for one of the next two major dances.

There's only one triple crown.
As for major dances, he's danced in them. There are more, some of which are on the west coast. They live out there. It makes sense they'd run out there.
Or...I guess they can send him from barn to barn like ria Antonia.

Seriously, no matter what they do, there will be people complaining.

geeker2 06-07-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by arizonadave (Post 982059)
How many of us,as horseplayers, have said dumb things about other horses,jockeys and owners when we lose.Its part of the game.Look at some of the posts in this forum when a person loses. We are lucky that there isn't a mic stuck in our face.

When you get old you say sh$t..I agree he should get a pass. ..

Danzig 06-07-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 982108)
When you get old you say sh$t..I agree he should get a pass. ..

And stay off his lawn

geeker2 06-07-2014 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 982110)
And stay off his lawn

I laughed

GenuineRisk 06-07-2014 11:14 PM

Now, if he'd just saved his ire for the complete cluster*ck that was the trains back from the track.

Seattleallstar 06-08-2014 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 982097)
And your point is?

They won the Belmont just fine and ran in all the races, along with winning one of the other TC races

richard burch 06-08-2014 12:17 AM

seemed like it was just an emotional reaction. his horse ran hard and tried right to the finish line. be proud of your horse and jockey. 3 races in 5 weeks, mile and a half... just was to much for him.

richard burch 06-08-2014 12:28 AM

just because i'm insane too
 
i think what needs to change is that we tie all three races together as the name "triple crown" implies. it does seem strange that we only care about how many points a horse has for the derby and then totally disregard the other 2 races. by have designated horses for the triple crown it becomes more of a playoff type scenario.

what about nominating 23-25 horses that are eligible to run in any or all of the 3 races. start with 20 for he derby. there are always defections for the preakness and the next 5 can get in if they want or wait for the belmont. this would give the reserve horses rest but they also may have not run for 6 weeks so they dont get a clear fitness edge. you can still keep the weeks between them and the distances the same.

and if it ends up being a 6 horse field in the belmont so be it. secretariat and affirmed didn't have big fields to beat either.

ateamstupid 06-08-2014 12:31 AM

Just saw the rant for the first time. I was a fan of Coburn's up until now but he needs to get all the way the fck out of here with those sour grapes. Your horse very plainly wasn't good enough pops, suck it up and move on with your millions of dollars.


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