Obama - "I will not apologize for the Bergdahl swap"
 

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/05/po...gdahl-release/

I don't know why he would, he never apologized to the families of the victims of the Bengazi fiasco, or the gulf coast BP oil spill victims for waiting 53 days to involve the Coast Guard and investigate the Mineral and Mine safety division of the Dept. of the Interior, or the taxpayers for pissing away trillions in stimulus money on larks (cash for clunkers, bankrupt solar panel companies, bankrupt electric car battery companies, etc.) rather than rebuilding our infrastructure like the platform he ran on, or the world economy for not holding anyone accountable for the banking collapse.

In fact the only thing he's done successfully and consistently for 6 years is avoid blame.


This whole thing makes absolutely no sense. There has got to be a covert angle where someone's cover was blown or something.

That's the first thing that came to mind. Something amiss here, no doubt.

I had read somewhere that there was information about who was going with Obama when he did his surprise visit to Bagram over Memorial day weekend. Speculation was that a high ranking CIA officer was on the list, but should not have been disclosed.
Now how that all ties back into letting 5 of the most heinous terrorists we've ever captured, just "go home" is one for the ages - but perhaps they had this kid embedded as a spy and his story didn't jive with the report - Al Queda in turn threatens to release the blown cover by publicly killing him unless we give up these 5, which, in turn he gets released.
Obama spins it as a win-win, when actually it was a coverup of a clusterfuc<1.

Pure speculation, but this is one f'ed up situation all around.

Once Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld apologize for Iraq, I'll start fretting about this. But nothing in Obama's Presidency will possibly approach that bone-headed cluster*ck of C-plus Augustus' ego trip that killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, exploded our debt, siphoned billions into the pockets of their friends and was just generally the single worst foreign policy decision since god knows when.

And yet they get a bye for that while Obama gets pilloried for cash for clunkers. Jesus wept.

that's a really interesting theory, rudeboy.
and of course they won't say if that's what happened.

That's the spirit. Congratulations on completely missing the point.

No one defended Bush nor Cheney nor Rumsfeld; in fact all three should be hung for treason. No idea what that has to do with the current administration, or the 16 trillion dollars worth of boondoggles at ever turn, but good for you.

We get it - you are on Team Blue. So you get to ignore the egregious actions of your Team Bluetard leader, Because Team Redtard's guy was way worse in your eyes. Of course, Team Bluetard's guy was supposed to be the antithesis of Team Redtard's guy but, alas, is exactly the same. No matter, he's on Team Blue and not Team Red. That is all that matters.

Well...but Bush...

Oh wait...already used.


Ermm...racist!

Perhaps I've seen too many episodes of Homeland and 24 ;)

no, i really think you might have a plausible reason for it.

obama went over, there was a cover blown, and then this guy comes home.
coincidence? maybe.

the previous administration absolutely sucked.
so does this one.

1. And So will the next one.
2 Go to Step 1

I find it impossible to believe that our gov't didn't drug the released Taliban members and place tracking devices inside of them before we released them. Gov't had the full story before they made the decision, there's just no way they could trade 5 ranking members for a possible deserter. Or so I hope.

You know i am having a frustrating week on a personal situation in my life and and will not waste too much time on threads like this one. BUT since i am already pissed off i have a couple of thoughts! The previous administration, were fuking liars and war mongering war criminals, who should have been behind bars years ago! But, out of respect for the office of the Presidency and not wanting to set a precedent of one administration going after another one this President chose not to pursue charges against his predecessor. I do not like that, i do not agree with that but i damn sure understand and respect that. The previous administration drove this country to the brink of financial ruin! This administration has taken bold steps to pull this country out of that mammoth crater! President Obama has accomplished a ton, in the face of the single largest, racist, anti-American, disgusting, vile and stone walling opposition in the history of the White House, period! Anyone, who doesn't believe that must have been living under a rock, blindfolded, with tape over their ears oh and are entitled to have MORONIC OPINIONS, it's a free country, but that is what they are MORONIC OPINIONS!
In terms of this prisoner swap, if what has been reported in terms of a proof of life video that showed this kid to be in poor health i am sure this is what moved the President to act so quickly to bring this kid home. Let them investigate when the kid is healthy, and if he's a deserter or traitor i am sure appropriate charges will be filed at a later date. In my opinion anyone of these right wing SCUMBAGS calling for this President to be impeached for bringing home an American POW is once again of a moronic opinion! Speaking of TRAITORS AND MORONS, i think the absolute LAST PERSON we need weighing in on this situation is OLLIE FUKING NORTH! BUT he has, this CONVICTED TRAITOR has got some SACK going on FIXED NEWS and opening his pie hole about this prisoner exchange, when he should be rotting himself in prison to this day and beyond!
This concludes my rant, i am going to take a BP pill now try to calm down and go back to capping! Nothing personal Ms. Danzig ya just caught me at a very bad time. Please continue amongst yourselves!

Exactly..... Either tracking devices or Obama put Doug Whaley in charge of prisoner trades...

:tro:

until some changes are made and the two big parties get knocked down a few pegs, i'm afraid you're right.

agree with much of that.
and yes, obama has had opposition...but for the most part, things haven't changed since he took over. nor did i expect it to. as for the wars, drone strikes have stepped up, you have the nsa scandal, the patriot act being continued. obama has pretty much continued what was already started by the previous admin.
and i agree, talk of impeaching obama is ridiculous. it won't go anywhere.

That's obvious to even the Taliban - they will never, ever get near anything resembling an operation again. These 5 will, however, be celebrated as Islamic heroes; a clear cut example of how powerful Allah's grace can be - stand strong in your convictions; for Allah will mesmerize the Western Devil into doing his bidding should you stay strong to Al Queda's message...yada yada yada.

It's a fuc1<ing nightmare to anyone who is still stuck there with this fraud-in-chief in charge

:tro::tro:..Post of the year award...

This is the exact type of view that will keep the American people from taking back the power and demanding more than the status quo.

"Your guy was bad so it doesn't matter that my guy is just as bad".

It's always a race or competition on who is right, instead of what is right. This isn't a football game or horse race, people!

.....NOT!!

I have a disdain for all politicians, but the politics of this president suggests his next move may be to send the troops after........AMERICANS. And not referring to rescuing POWs either.

I'm not sure how kowtowing to Islamic fundamentalist, bootlicking American killers, and bargaining with terrorists benefits Americans----the people who as an elected official he has sworn to serve and protect the interests of.

Bullcrap...let's play whatif...Obama turns down secret deal with Taliban for the release of an American soldier in exchange for 5 taliban captives at Gitmo citing price too high!..word gets out -it always does- do I need to tell you the reaction from the Fox talking out of their asz heads..or the total outrage from the rightwing nuts...OBAMA LEFT AN AMERICAN SOLDIER IN THE BATTLEFIELD...OUTRAGEOUS...IMPEACH HIS ASZ..
Let the full story play out and if he is a deserter throw his asz in the brig for life...if he's whacky and needs treatment give it to him..just don't sent him to the VA...and we'll let the drones take out those taliban guys..

Hey at least the released terrorists will have a safe place to go - Iraq !

http://time.com/2859454/iraq-tikrit-isis-baghdad-mosul/

Now that was a Trillion dollars well spent. Mission accomplished.:zz:

I thought dumya cleaned up Iraq..not so:eek: cleaned it up for the enemy:wf

The only cleaning done in Iraq was cleaning out taxpayers pockets. Both parties are at fault.

It would be awesome to safely vacay in Qatar and Iraq. I would even kinda fit in. (I'm half Lebanese) I would just need to learn arabic and make sure no one knew I was American.

Jim is right, party politics aren't going to solve this. Having any regard for what the spin machines say or do wont either. Someone is going to have do something DECISIVE for a change and fix this. Obama said he was going to fix this, and here we are 6 years later and all this administration is doing is helping the proliferation of the enemy of our peace. The previous administrations money motives fostered what should be an inexcuseable relationship with Saudi Arabia and Dubai. In this great liberal Obama era "TOLERANCE" is what is in style right now. I guess that means tolerance of terrorist as well.

Every war we have ever fought, we have had prisoner exchanges. This is probably no different.
It kills me that some necons have sand in their privates over this.
This playing of politics is so far beyond old its absolutely ridiculous.

I'll trade you Baltic Ave for Boardwalk :D

I would give you post of the year but I did realize you were 1/2 Lebanese so that just can't happen .

RoR...I know you are a good dude ! just bustin ! Hell even Morty likes you.

Josef Goebbels, Adolf Eichmann, Joseph Mengele and Heinrich Himmler for Private Forest Gump. ;)

Horrible trade indeed HOWEVER we ALL know if it wasn't made you would be the first person to post how Obama failed the military by leaving a member behind. Win / Win for you Dell.

You're kidding?

I don't give a rat's azz for this deserter...

But I must wonder how much Mexico is asking for Andrew Tahmooressi, a U.S. Marine?

Or is that why the southern border is wide open?

5 million illegals for a Marine?

This reminds me of the Gasol trade.

Please continue to defend this clown.

Thanks Kev. I get DQed again out of a win!!!!! WTF!!!!

Ba$tards!

Lebanese are the good guys...the Syrian guy is a bad guy:p
...hey golfer..kifik sadeek:)

Hopefully we can get back to the substance of the discussion now that Team Blue has had their chance to tell us how horrible George Bush and his cronies were (and we are all shocked!!!, no one has never seen/read/heard this before!!!) , and how important it is to get it's news from Jon Stewart.

In rebuttal, Team Red will surely sh1t up another 2 pages of this thread defending their team (by swerving the discussion to illegal immigrants/denying healthcare for the poor/ensuring the rich get richer)... but in the interim, maybe the adults can actually discuss recent developments.

Bowe Bergdahl and the pathologizing of dissent - an interesting read:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/180216...gizing-dissent

Dan, the Adults are all in The Charles Hatton Reading Room :p

Respectfully... will he be doing anything about ISIS?

Will he be doing anything about anything?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/15/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

With respect also I offer this short comment.
Well we moved the aircraft carrier USS H. W. BUSH and two battle ships to the Persian Gulf..Iran:zz: has has offered help..Iran has majority of Shiites...same as Iraq...Those photos are sickening but stories like that are part of the list of reasons Bush2 used to invade a sovereign country - Iraq-..If Obama invades Iraq i will be first in line screaming impeach his asz...and don't forget WHO started this shiit...