Lane's End Breeders' Futurity
 

i like great hunter in this spot.
as a son of aptitude he should appreciate the stretch out in distance. his numbers are solid and improving and i think the switch to espinoza will be a perfect fit.
he should be a good price too since all the $$ will probably go to pletcher's thunder gulch.

Gotta root for Passport as he won our big race and did it in a very nice fashion. Gooooooo Passport!!

Great Hunter might be a cut below the best 2 yo's, but it more about who will get a hold of the track in this race.

I like Passport here too!
May all come back safe and sound.

I like Street Sense.

Are you guys stoned or what?
CQ by at least 3.

Dont see it happening this Saturday. Maybe 2nd or 3rd but not 1st by 3.

Based on what?

Since everyone is saying the longshots have it on poly, I'm going for French Transition. :p

CQ does look like the one to BEAT in this spot even if the pace is slow I don't think it is gonna matter. His final times are faster than these even if the walk the dog for 7F he is still gonna run them down. I think if Scat Daddy was in this race and CQ was not he would be 3-2 so right around 1-1 would be a gift on this one

Based on several factors 1) It is a two turn race which is something new for Quay. 2) The added distance is another factor. 3) Not positive he will like the PolyTrack surface.

Can't this be said about every horse in the race?

Must addmit that is a factor for most of the horses in the race

But not every horse in the race will be even money.

Besides, there are a couple of horses in here that have been two turns...like passport.

Maybe Circular Quay does demolish this field but at that price? Too many questions for me and the two turn question is bigger than the surface.

CQ is the goods. Wonder what the knock on him will be if he wins again..

No knock here. He is a fine two year old and it will be fun if he sticks around for awhile.

and if you feel like even money is a "gift" as someone else said, then have at it. Personally, there are too many questions here. Two turns, new surface and a bigger field than what he has faced the last couple out. All that and you only get even money? No thanks.

Going with Birdbirdistheword to upset Circular Quay. Also expect Street Sense to hold on for third. Bird is two for two on the grass and has won at 8.5f The favorite has not been two-turns, probably won't get as fast a pace to run at, and will have several more horses to negotiate through. He's good but that's a lot to overcome. Street Sense ran big in his debut then huge in breaking his maiden. Couldn't hold on in the slop in last but could get brave running up front here.

Well Passport has a win at a two turn race. I have seen Passport work over the PolyTrack and he seems to love it. Quay has never been over the surface. I havent seen or heard of him going over the surface at Keeneland but I am sure he has been out for a gallop. I have also seen Street Sense over and over and I really feel that he is going to run big this weekend.

I'll second that, he jumped out at me as solid value a few days ago when I looked at the entries. Street Sense and Carl Nafzger in the Lane's End on top of Great Hunter and CircularQuay.

I'm a little scared of taking CQ on the poly, but two turns is the last thing that worries me about him.
He just destroyed arguably some of the top 2 year olds in the country at Saratoga in a Grade 1, and now people think he's going to lay an egg against a field that includes 2 maidens and a horse that won a stakes at River Downs??
Gomez stays on CQ, which is even more reason to like him.
I'm not going to bet him to win at a short price, but will single him in
my pick 4.

Street Sense is the real deal, and ran well against two horses I love (unbridled express and Officer Rocket). Great hunter should also run well here.

Circular Quay got an inflated Beyer last out and is a total play against. I like Great Hunter to win but if he continues his seconditis I like Passport or Street Sense long before CQ.

French Transition

So now Quay isn't even in the exacta? I have to tell you....I just don't understand this thinking at all.
I am usually not one for bold predictions.....but based on his first three races, this colt is for real.
As for the 1st post on the thread, I don't understand why you would refer to a G1 winner as "Pletcher's Thunder Gulch" as if he were a first time starter. Why does this horse get no respect. Did you people SEE his last race?

can't speak for everyone, but i certainly respect him and think he's done very well.
but these are two year olds who change with the wind. maybe he moves on, maybe he doesn't. anyone who looks for races to beat the fave and try to find value would be insane not to try here.

Well I guess I must be insane then because I try to beat faves all the time, but I wouldn't bet against Circular Quay with your great-grandma's Monopoly money. If the Poly and the 8.5 scare you off the horse (which I don't think they should) then I would just sit the race out altogether.
To me betting against CQ after what he showed in his last race (not to mention his first two) is like flushing money down a toilet. He is - in my opinoin - clearly the best colt in this race. To me that doesn't make him a good bet-against.
For some reason I just can't stay away from this board when there is a good Circular Quay debate going on.

His beyer has nothing to do with why he's the best horse. If you've seen any of his 3 races, you know what kind of special animal he is. It's not just a 2-year old peaking early or having a lucky day.
I'm singling CQ in the pick 4 (my only bet of the day at Keenland).

lol
that's the thing...if you don't feel you can beat the fave, you try to find someone playable underneath, or just sit back and watch cq waltz. not all faves are beatable...BUT if any horse would be a 'take a stand againt' as the fave today, i feel it's CQ. just never know with the babies...

Bam!! I nailed this one. I hit a huge win bet and the exacta! I love this game!!

Nice Pick Avance, he did relish the extra ground. Congrats

Nice hit Avance, love the result here because it just helped odds on CQ on Breeder's Day.......

Sniper, nice spot as well

I stand corrected.
Hard to know exactly why he didn't fire today. Maybe it was the Poly, maybe it was the 2 turns. I guess we just don't know yet. I rarely get super excited about a 2yo but I made an exception for this guy. He didn't totally bomb today....but he didn't blow by them like I thought he would.
Like Scav, I still plan on playing him BC day.

With the stupid fractions they ran in the Hopeful anyone could have picked up the pieces. I was honestly more impressed with him getting up for second here than in winning the Hopeful.

Anybody bother to read the chart?

"Circular Quay settled inside early, lost position concluding the backstretch, was asked for more entering the far turn when angled five wide, was bumped twice by the winner nearing the stretch and forced out on Passport, then continued off the inside and gamely earned the place."

In other words, CQ had himself an eventful trip. Great Hunter got first run and was gone before CQ was able to regroup. Would he have won with a better trip? Don't know. Great Hunter is from a different circuit and that circuit may just have a slightly better bunch of 2yos this year. Not enough evidence to blame poly for his second.

Nice job. :)