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randallscott35 12-23-2013 12:04 PM

Dallas: 3rd Time A Charm?
 
I wouldn't touch the game, but I am surprised that Philly is favored by 3 right now and it is in Dallas. Amazing this is the 3rd year in a row in the last game it is win and your in for them. Both the Giants and Skins I think were better teams than this Philly team....not that either of these two can beat the biggies in the NFC b/c they can't.

Mike A 12-23-2013 12:50 PM

Agree strange line to see the Iggles favored on the road.
I wouldn't touch that game either. To me it kind of like playing certain
p-4 or p-3s, some races you just take a stand.
No "all" button for the NFL
Eagles lose to the Vikes, then humiliate the Bears, well I guess the Bears did help
Cowboys tried to lose from ahead again

declansharbor 12-23-2013 01:13 PM

If both teams play like they did yesterday, I think it's a forgone conclusion who wins.

The loss to the Vikings could end up being the Birds' saving grace. Humiliated, they bounced back like a racquetball to CRUSH a team who needed the win for a division title.

The defense, Minnesota game notwithstanding, has been improving markedly from week to week. Nobody in their right mind wants to oppose this team in the playoffs.

Just have to get thereby stomping Dylbert and his posse of clowns. I'm ALL FOR THAT!

ateamstupid 12-23-2013 01:28 PM

Cowboys are gonna need to score 40 to win IMO. No way that Dallas defense stops Foles and McCoy. They've failed over and over again in the same kind of spot with better teams than this one, so I don't know why anyone would expect them to win Sunday.

randallscott35 12-23-2013 03:13 PM

Yeah the Dallas D is quite bad. I dunno, I just think sometimes teams rise up to the occasion. My point is more than this Eagles team isn't as good as the giants or Redskins last year IMO...maybe the Dallas team isn't either....but yes, if the Eagles play like last night, they win.

MaTH716 12-23-2013 03:28 PM

@mortreport: Tony Romo's MRI not good. Ruled out rest of season, per source telling @AdamSchefter

ateamstupid 12-23-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 958274)
If both teams play like they did yesterday, I think it's a forgone conclusion who wins.

The loss to the Vikings could end up being the Birds' saving grace. Humiliated, they bounced back like a racquetball to CRUSH a team who needed the win for a division title.

The defense, Minnesota game notwithstanding, has been improving markedly from week to week. Nobody in their right mind wants to oppose this team in the playoffs.

Just have to get thereby stomping Dylbert and his posse of clowns. I'm ALL FOR THAT!

Mike, more or less confident now that you're facing Orton instead of Romo? My guess is less.

Danzig 12-23-2013 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 958275)
Cowboys are gonna need to score 40 to win IMO. No way that Dallas defense stops Foles and McCoy. They've failed over and over again in the same kind of spot with better teams than this one, so I don't know why anyone would expect them to win Sunday.

they barely eked out a win over the skins. i don't see them beating the eagles. orton or not, romo or not.

MaTH716 12-23-2013 04:47 PM

Garrett playing it close to the vest, not confirming that Romo's out. Interesting.

declansharbor 12-23-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 958281)
Mike, more or less confident now that you're facing Orton instead of Romo? My guess is less.

Less, and it seems like i'm all by myself. The texts i've been getting since the story broke are making me downright nauseous.

I understand why people are brimming with excitement after last night's win, but they still have to handle business come sunday night. It's like the fans already forget about a Matt Cassell led offense just hanging 47 (!!!) on the defense.

The defense has been getting better each and every week, but when a guy named Matt Asiata scores 3 td's (and perhaps his only career td's) on you less than two weeks ago, it's at least a plausible thought that the Cowboys can hang something similar.

Nothing would make me happier heading into 2014 than a 3rd straight failed attempt to shore up the division for the Cowboys at home. (Other than selling this lovely home we have for sale in Medford, NJ soon :$:)

declansharbor 12-23-2013 06:31 PM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7bSSL16a8R8

randallscott35 12-23-2013 07:07 PM

The defense is the problem, not the offense. Therefore, I don't think Orton will be horrible at all. They will score some points. Can they stop Philly? That's what matters

Duvalier 12-23-2013 08:05 PM

Now Eagles -7.5

MaTH716 12-24-2013 10:18 AM

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn Source says Tony Romo got epidural injection for herniated disk. Takes 2-3 days to determine effect of shot. Source very skeptical QB plays

cmorioles 12-24-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 958337)
Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn Source says Tony Romo got epidural injection for herniated disk. Takes 2-3 days to determine effect of shot. Source very skeptical QB plays

I've been through this, big time, like could barely get out of bed for a month. It first happened when I was playing tennis. It happened in warm up, but I played a good two hours. It hurt like hell, but still, I could finish. By the next morning I couldn't move. The pain was like nothing I could ever describe. I'm not trying to compare football to tennis. The fact he finished a football game with that is incredible and that guy is super tough. I'm just saying it has probably gotten worse.

They say he needs surgery. It would shock me if the first epidural shot did enough to allow him to play. It generally takes a series, each helping a little more. Even with the first two shots, I still had to take some serious painkillers just to get around the house, and it was shooting down my leg just like his.

randallscott35 12-24-2013 01:23 PM

Maybe Allday can pay him a visit?

casp0555 12-24-2013 01:29 PM

Well, he is taking a big chance if they let him play, if that baby ruptures, he is f@#ked. good luck romo

jms62 12-24-2013 01:31 PM

Orton had a few very nice days with the Broncos. That 7.5 looks tempting.

randallscott35 12-24-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 958361)
Orton had a few very nice days with the Broncos. That 7.5 looks tempting.

Too late. +7 -120 if you want Dallas. Will be 6 or less at gametime.

ateamstupid 12-24-2013 01:36 PM

Over 52.5 looks like a lock.

randallscott35 12-24-2013 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 958364)
Over 52.5 looks like a lock.

Funny enough, I'd go the other way...but I'm not playing the game period.

jms62 12-24-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 958364)
Over 52.5 looks like a lock.

Good point.

randallscott35 12-24-2013 01:58 PM

That's a lot of points. I would think without Romo, they will run it more if they can.

ateamstupid 12-24-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 958367)
That's a lot of points. I would think without Romo, they will run it more if they can.

Stop it. It's two of the worst defenses and best offenses in the NFL playing in a dome. Don't overthink it.

randallscott35 12-24-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 958369)
Stop it. It's two of the worst defenses and best offenses in the NFL playing in a dome. Don't overthink it.

All prime time games are inflated, remember that Denver game on Thurs a few weeks ago. My brother talked me out of the under in that game and it was 56.5...same deal, 2 good offenses and 2 bad defenses. They didn't come close to the number...I don't play with the public. I'd rather pass the game then bet an inflated line.

ateamstupid 12-24-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 958370)
All prime time games are inflated, remember that Denver game on Thurs a few weeks ago. My brother talked me out of the under in that game and it was 56.5...same deal, 2 good offenses and 2 bad defenses. They didn't come close to the number...I don't play with the public. I'd rather pass the game then bet an inflated line.

Really don't think 52.5 is inflated. That was outdoors, this is indoors, neither one of those defenses was as bad as Dallas's, nor did either offense play the tempo Philly does. Plus that was 4 points higher. Wouldn't be surprised if this total goes over 70.

randallscott35 12-24-2013 02:14 PM

that's what makes a market Joe Joe. Could be 54 by gametime...I won't touch it. I will root for Dallas as Austin's wife to be is the godmother of my daughter. Other than that I don't care.

randallscott35 12-25-2013 11:40 AM

Now down to 6...Romo doubtful.

cmorioles 12-27-2013 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 958424)
Now down to 6...Romo doubtful.

He was never going to play.

NTamm1215 12-27-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 958536)
He was never going to play.

It was kind of an embarrassing attempt at a ruse by Garrett and the organization. But, they had to preserve the attention as long as possible.

cmorioles 12-27-2013 10:55 AM

Ruse is one of my favorite words, especially when used without "clever."

randallscott35 12-27-2013 11:07 AM

I think Orton will play fine. He won't decide the game.

Ocala Mike 12-27-2013 05:14 PM

Would love to see the school teacher, Kitna, get in and make an impact in the game. Guy donated his gameday salary to the school at which he teaches.

randallscott35 12-27-2013 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 958573)
Would love to see the school teacher, Kitna, get in and make an impact in the game. Guy donated his gameday salary to the school at which he teaches.

Would be a nice story. Yes teachers tend to be big-hearted folk. ;)

herkhorse 12-30-2013 06:51 AM

3rd time was a charm all right. Watching the jj train wreck never gets old, loved the premature celebration.

Danzig 12-30-2013 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 958802)
3rd time was a charm all right. Watching the jj train wreck never gets old, loved the premature celebration.

:D

i root for the eagles twice a year. loved the orton pick to seal the deal.

herkhorse 12-30-2013 07:23 AM

Orton played pretty well, there is only one problem in Dallas and it never disappoints. :D

Danzig 12-30-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 958805)
Orton played pretty well, there is only one problem in Dallas and it never disappoints. :D

:D

jerry jones would do the team a huge favor if he'd just fire his gm. too bad he can't recognize the guy is the worst gm in all of football. :p

Kasept 12-30-2013 09:11 AM


randallscott35 12-30-2013 09:46 AM

Very bad pass late. The other one was not his fault. Under was the play as the public gets it wrong again.


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