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Kasept 12-10-2013 05:46 PM

1938-2013: Goodbye to Hollywood Park
 
For those that missed Tom Shapiro on ATR today, the grandson of Louis K. Shapiro assuaged concerns regarding the relocation of Native Diver's remains and Hollywood Park Memorial statue. Though Shapiro preferred to remain mum on where the new site will be, he guaranteed the topic has been addressed with track management and an announcement will be made soon with specifics.

Though Landaluce and Great Communicator not come up as part of the conversation, it would be logical to expect similar arrangements are underway for them as well. I'll try to confirm that.

Shapiro was terrific recounting his growing up at Hollywood and the family's Canoga Park farm. Don't miss it. Includes Harry Henson call of '67 HOL Gold Cup: http://www.thoroughbredracingradione...y=10&Itemid=35

#ATRHollywoodMemories continue Wednesday with Tom Proctor.

outofthebox 12-10-2013 08:12 PM

Thanks Steve. Great piece to listen to. I grew up in Canoga Park, just down the street from the Shapiros' farm. The farm was gone by the time i reached my teens and became a race fan. But i have recollections of visiting the horses at the farm while i was in grade school. At the time i had no idea horses were used to run in races, just thought of them as riding horses. Thanks for bringing back some childhood memories...

OldDog 12-11-2013 06:45 AM

I thoroughly enjoyed that segment, Steve, and look forward to the next.

alysheba4 12-11-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by outofthebox (Post 956732)
Thanks Steve. Great piece to listen to. I grew up in Canoga Park, just down the street from the Shapiros' farm. The farm was gone by the time i reached my teens and became a race fan. But i have recollections of visiting the horses at the farm while i was in grade school. At the time i had no idea horses were used to run in races, just thought of them as riding horses. Thanks for bringing back some childhood memories...

......grew up there as well, never knew about a horse farm.

ne to socal 12-11-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 956761)
......grew up there as well, never knew about a horse farm.

Or about Devonshire Downs? Google for some cool pics.

(I'm in Northridge)

Hopefully this link works, one cool pic of a wiggle runner with the hills in the back.

http://digital-library.csun.edu/cdm/...r/title/ad/asc

Indian Charlie 12-11-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ne to socal (Post 956766)
Or about Devonshire Downs? Google for some cool pics.

(I'm in Northridge)

Hopefully this link works, one cool pic of a wiggle runner with the hills in the back.

http://digital-library.csun.edu/cdm/...r/title/ad/asc

Northridge? Please tell me you didn't move from New England to Northridge!

Though I suppose one could make a case Northridge is better than Canoga Park.

ne to socal 12-11-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 956772)
Northridge? Please tell me you didn't move from New England to Northridge!

Though I suppose one could make a case Northridge is better than Canoga Park.

Sherwood Forest is quite lovely this time of year. :D

Plus when Rockingham closed...what was one to do?!

alysheba4 12-11-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 956772)
Northridge? Please tell me you didn't move from New England to Northridge!

Though I suppose one could make a case Northridge is better than Canoga Park.

.......this was back in the early to late seventies. the valley has taken a few steps back since then.

outofthebox 12-11-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 956783)
.......this was back in the early to late seventies. the valley has taken a few steps back since then.

The west end of the valley was a great place to grow up in the 70's. The farm was just down the street on Cohasset i believe.

Cannon Shell 12-11-2013 08:48 PM

http://www.laweekly.com/2013-12-12/n...e-racing/full/

my miss storm cat 12-15-2013 11:34 AM

A Last Hurrah for Hollywood Park
 
From the New York Times....

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/sp...pagewanted=all

Danzig 12-15-2013 12:28 PM

i reminded my youngest that he needed to try to get by there before they shut down. hopefully he'll make it.

ScottJ 12-15-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 957164)

In my lifetime, I have lost my hometown quarterhorse track ... twice (Parr Meadows, Suffolk Meadows) and I have lost my hometown harness track (Roosevelt Raceway).

Both of these venues have since been cleared to make room for housing and commercial progress. How I wish I could experience just one more day at either of the two; once they are rubble, the only thing that remains is your memory - and maybe some internet pictures.

Perhaps, I no longer understand what real-estate progress means.

Perhaps, I no longer understand the concept of an optimal use of prime real estate.

However, I do know that tearing down Hollywood Park is nothing more than a hollow sense of progress.

tanner12oz 12-15-2013 02:16 PM

its sad when one of the biggest racetracks in the country on one of the biggest circuits in the country can't remain economically viable

helicopter11 12-16-2013 06:16 PM

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...million-595536

The old Great Western Forum gets to stay and Hollywood Park gets the boot?

letswastemoney 12-16-2013 09:42 PM

I got to spend time with the Rosalind camp two weeks ago! I was inside the walking ring with all of them.

I'll be sad that it's gone. That was a good last visit ever though for me.

OldDog 12-19-2013 08:36 AM

Native Diver to Del Mar, Landaluce to Spendthrift. Great Communicator in limbo.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ing-to-del-mar

tanner12oz 12-20-2013 05:06 AM

Field size for this weekend should be large for the sendoff

santana 12-20-2013 05:39 AM

From what i remember Parr Meadows didnt last very long, but Roosevelt Raceway ? That easily had the largest crowds on a friday and Sat night i have ever seen at a Racetrack...Great memories.

alysheba4 12-20-2013 10:12 AM

was thinking of going sunday, only live 35 miles away......last time i was there was last summer and it was kind of sad because it has become so run down.

helicopter11 12-20-2013 11:39 AM

It was a shame that when they opened the casino, they would not allow people to go into the Pavillion. It was just space unoccupied for almost 20 yrs

my miss storm cat 12-21-2013 08:14 PM

Pop Quiz: Vic Stauffer :)

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/pe...-vic-stauffer/

Arletta 12-21-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 958088)

Cute :)

and "Yes", tomorrow many of us will have a heavy heart after the running of the 10th :(

10 pnt move up 12-21-2013 10:45 PM

My first time seeing a live race was this card. I still think it was one of Trevor's better calls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbsU...tu.be&t=56m18s

helicopter11 12-22-2013 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 958093)
My first time seeing a live race was this card. I still think it was one of Trevor's better calls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbsU...tu.be&t=56m18s

This was the time when the big races on the west coast was the 3rd, 4th or 5th race. A time when simulcasting started to expand.

10 pnt move up 12-22-2013 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 958096)
This was the time when the big races on the west coast was the 3rd, 4th or 5th race. A time when simulcasting started to expand.

Yea, I am in Phx and we could only get three socal races per day and basically that was it. That expanded to like 5 in 93'. I dont think it went full card until about 96'.

Other than the triple crown races I am not sure we took bets on any other races from non socal races for about 3-4 years after 92'.

my miss storm cat 12-22-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 958093)
My first time seeing a live race was this card.

Mine was the 2004 Hollywood Derby.

helicopter11 12-22-2013 05:11 PM

In honor of Hollywood Park closing all the locals in Inglewood have placed their pants half staff.

helicopter11 12-22-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 958107)
Yea, I am in Phx and we could only get three socal races per day and basically that was it. That expanded to like 5 in 93'. I dont think it went full card until about 96'.

Other than the triple crown races I am not sure we took bets on any other races from non socal races for about 3-4 years after 92'.

In some thoughts simulcasting watered down the interest in the sport to just a cheap way to gamble. Before simulcasting, people would take time to go to the paddock, read the form and you can actually hear people cheering. I will miss Friday night racing at Hollywood Park. That was part of my childhood and I always looked forward going to it.

my miss storm cat 12-22-2013 08:34 PM

Thank you, Mr. Stauffer. :tro:

casp0555 12-22-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 958216)
Thank you, Mr. Stauffer. :tro:

:tro: so very much

helicopter11 12-23-2013 12:21 AM

Kudos to TVG for the great coverage and having Jack Van Berg on set.

Duvalier 12-23-2013 01:13 AM

Nice job Vic

jms62 12-23-2013 06:45 AM

Great call of that race by Vic. He gets his share of grief around here but none of it is due to his race calling. He is one of the best out there in my opinion. Anyone know what is next for him?

joeydb 12-23-2013 07:00 AM

LAWeekly gloom and doom article
 
http://www.laweekly.com/2013-12-12/n...-horse-racing/

Here's the obligatory "as Hollywood Park goes, so does racing" article.

This guy even wants the Triple Crown changed to not be just for 3 year olds.

Kasept 12-23-2013 07:26 AM

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...2&postcount=10

Danzig 12-23-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 958243)
http://www.laweekly.com/2013-12-12/n...-horse-racing/

Here's the obligatory "as Hollywood Park goes, so does racing" article.

This guy even wants the Triple Crown changed to not be just for 3 year olds.

yeah, way to soon to sound a death knell for racing.
hollywood isn't closing because the sport is in bad shape. it's closing because of the value of the property.

dellinger63 12-23-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 958256)
hollywood isn't closing because the sport is in bad shape. it's closing because of the value of the property.

Beautiful neighborhood...

MaTH716 12-23-2013 10:42 AM

Anyone happen to notice this guy in the winner's circle last night?



Looks very familiar :rolleyes: :zz:


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