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ninetoone 12-10-2013 02:07 AM

Shanahan
 
Good article:

http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/12/9/5...-by-kc-clyburn

Alabama Stakes 12-10-2013 11:41 AM

never liked that bum. Unstable mentally for years now.

Danzig 12-10-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 956670)
never liked that bum. Unstable mentally for years now.

i wasn't happy about the skins hiring him (but then, i don't know that i've liked much of anything dan snyder has done with the team) and i certainly wasn't happy about who he chose for offensive coordinator. he should have left last year-he should have been fired when he opted to keep griffin in the game last year on one good leg. it was stupid.
the skins had a good defense once, he even managed to f*** that up.



good lord, people will say shanahan is a hall of fame coach?! surely not! hell, take elway away, and what has shanny got? nothing. his record bears that out once john retired.

MaTH716 12-10-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 956678)
i wasn't happy about the skins hiring him (but then, i don't know that i've liked much of anything dan snyder has done with the team) and i certainly wasn't happy about who he chose for offensive coordinator. he should have left last year-he should have been fired when he opted to keep griffin in the game last year on one good leg. it was stupid.
the skins had a good defense once, he even managed to f*** that up.



good lord, people will say shanahan is a hall of fame coach?! surely not! hell, take elway away, and what has shanny got? nothing. his record bears that out once john retired.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=11

Danzig 12-10-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 956682)

:tro:

his record with denver without elway tells the tale. snyder fell for another overrated coach. he's like a kid, enthralled by shiny objects that make clangy noises.

hey, dan, you hired a gm, let him find the coach!! (and call bill cowher. dude went to the superbowl with neil odonnell and to the afc championship with kordell stewart for crying out loud).

asudevil 12-10-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 956685)
:tro:

his record with denver without elway tells the tale. snyder fell for another overrated coach. he's like a kid, enthralled by shiny objects that make clangy noises.

hey, dan, you hired a gm, let him find the coach!! (and call bill cowher. dude went to the superbowl with neil odonnell and to the afc championship with kordell stewart for crying out loud).

Very poor example and argument. The AFC was in the midst of a horribly subpar 10 year run. Nobody from that conference was very good.

Danzig 12-10-2013 04:11 PM

new england might disagree re: the kordell year.

at any rate, i'd rather have cowher than the baylor coach that has been rumored to be in the mix. he was griffins coach in college, so now he can coach in the nfl?

MaTH716 12-10-2013 05:36 PM

Gotta admit that I haven't watch much of the Skins this year. But after watching them lose to the Giants a few weeks ago, I would have fired everyone who had to do with the offensive.
At 3-9 how do you continue to call QB read option plays where your franchise QB (who is coming off major knee surgery) is continuously taking hit after hit? Not only is he getting hit running the ball, he was nailed while blocked and then hit a couple of times as a decoy. All this with one of the best RB's in the league in the backfield. Just makes no sense, especially when your 3-9.

I think its a good move sitting him the rest of the season. I pray to God that Cousins plays lights out the next 3 weeks and gives good ole Danny boy something else to think about this off season.

I hope the Rams send him and Shanny a nice Christmas card.

MaTH716 12-11-2013 08:25 AM

Thought this was interesting.

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn Not to validate Mike Shanahan decision but to justify his concern: RG3 hit104 times passing, running and on sacks. Only Cam Newton hit more

Rudeboyelvis 12-11-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 956699)
Gotta admit that I haven't watch much of the Skins this year. But after watching them lose to the Giants a few weeks ago, I would have fired everyone who had to do with the offensive.
At 3-9 how do you continue to call QB read option plays where your franchise QB (who is coming off major knee surgery) is continuously taking hit after hit? Not only is he getting hit running the ball, he was nailed while blocked and then hit a couple of times as a decoy. All this with one of the best RB's in the league in the backfield. Just makes no sense, especially when your 3-9.

I think its a good move sitting him the rest of the season. I pray to God that Cousins plays lights out the next 3 weeks and gives good ole Danny boy something else to think about this off season.

I hope the Rams send him and Shanny a nice Christmas card.

If Dan Snyder has accomplished any consistency at all, it is that the coaches leaving the revolving door to the head coach's office at Redskin Park show the same expression on their way out.

It's one of utter disgust, relief, and a fat wallet. Shananhan will make that same trip out that door, just like the 7 previous coaches in the last 14 years.

The sad part of it all is that this contemptible little prick gives not one sh1t about what is good for this team. It is and has always been about nothing but his ego. And a 49 years old, we can be guaranteed that he's not going anywhere soon, and will never sell. We Skins fans are fuc1<ed beyond belief.

Danzig 12-11-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 956753)
If Dan Snyder has accomplished any consistency at all, it is that the coaches leaving the revolving door to the head coach's office at Redskin Park show the same expression on their way out.

It's one of utter disgust, relief, and a fat wallet. Shananhan will make that same trip out that door, just like the 7 previous coaches in the last 14 years.

The sad part of it all is that this contemptible little prick gives not one sh1t about what is good for this team. It is and has always been about nothing but his ego. And a 49 years old, we can be guaranteed that he's not going anywhere soon, and will never sell. We Skins fans are fuc1<ed beyond belief.

:(:mad:

you're right, i've always called dan 'jerry jones junior'. except at least early on, jerry's team had success.
it's depressing to think how long he'll be around to screw up the team. i was glad he hired a gm, but what's the point if the gm has no power and you turn over complete control to mike shanahan?

ugh.

i've been a 'skins fan since before i can remember-and i can't imagine being a fan of any other team. but it's become next to impossible anymore to be a 'skins fan. it's so damn depressing.

Danzig 12-11-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 956750)
Thought this was interesting.

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn Not to validate Mike Shanahan decision but to justify his concern: RG3 hit104 times passing, running and on sacks. Only Cam Newton hit more

his concern?

pfft.

the team has only gotten worse since mike got there-if that was possible. but it has. their one strength was defense, and we don't even have that anymore.

he needs to go back to where he came from, and take his son and jim haslett with him.

dalakhani 12-12-2013 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 956696)
new england might disagree re: the kordell year.

at any rate, i'd rather have cowher than the baylor coach that has been rumored to be in the mix. he was griffins coach in college, so now he can coach in the nfl?

Didn't the steelers lose to Denver that year with kordell?

Danzig 12-12-2013 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 956807)
Didn't the steelers lose to Denver that year with kordell?

since i was talking about '01, no. but they did lose to denver in 97.

2001[edit]
As starting quarterback, Stewart led the 2001 Steelers to a 13–3 regular-season record and the top seed in the AFC playoffs. Under the tutelage of new QB coach Tom Clements and new offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey, Stewart had his best year as a pro, throwing for over 3,000 yards, completing 60 percent of his passes, and attaining a passer rating of 81.7. He threw for 14 TDs and ran for five more. Stewart was elected to the Pro Bowl and was named the Steelers MVP.
The Steelers easily defeated the then-defending Super Bowl champion Baltimore Ravens in the divisional playoffs. The eventual Super Bowl champion New England Patriots defeated the Steelers in the AFC Championship Game.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-12-2013 10:51 AM

the skins are really bad .now whos to blame..rg3 should have been a scr for the year. he is not the same. dan s is a ok owner but when you never have a plan b ..its a brutal game.heads will roll. they need to give shanny the boot and start over..again

Danzig 12-12-2013 11:52 AM

dan snyder is not an ok owner. right now tho i'd have to say shanahan is the one to blame, since he was given complete control. he took their one positive, the D, and ruined it. he hired his son to be the offensive coordinator-he was the best man available to run the offense? yeah, sure he was. and then the inexplicable decision to keep griffin in that playoff game last winter, which has brought us to now. so many bad choices. man, i hate being right that shanahan was the wrong pick.

dan made a move in the right direction in hiring a gm. but...he needs to let the gm BE the gm. snyder would do well to emulate robert kraft, or art rooney-or even jack kent cooke back in the day. you hire the football men to run your team, and you stay the hell out of the way. hell, his and jones actions would be like these guys buying racehorses and then training/riding them instead of hiring trainers and jocks!

docicu3 12-12-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 956830)
the skins are really bad .now whos to blame..rg3 should have been a scr for the year. he is not the same. dan s is a ok owner but when you never have a plan b ..its a brutal game.heads will roll. they need to give shanny the boot and start over..again

There are 7 million reasons Shanny walks with if they start over now…..Snyder would make the guy coach to the determent of the team before he pays him the last year of that contract…..

3kings 12-12-2013 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 956846)
There are 7 million reasons Shanny walks with if they start over now…..Snyder would make the guy coach to the determent of the team before he pays him the last year of that contract…..

Snyder should fire the son and blame everything on him. This would force the elder Shanahan's hand.

Danzig 12-12-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 956849)
Snyder should fire the son and blame everything on him. This would force the elder Shanahan's hand.

fire the son and haslett. actually, he should take all the control he gave shanny to the gm, and fire pretty much every assistant coach there. allen wasn't thrilled with getting shanahan anyway. let him run it now.

Rudeboyelvis 12-12-2013 04:01 PM

Haslett has nothing to do with how decimated this Defense is due to injury. They were just fine last year.

Shany Jr. has nothing to do with how woefully ill-equipped RG III was prepared to return, nor can he help the injuries to their WR corp and TE's.
His offensive schemes got them to the playoffs last year. Schemes built around a healthy, running threat of a QB that he never got that back.

Everyone is looking to find the closest tree to hang the warmest body from, and the sad reality is that the logical alternatives are no better.

Snyder, in typical fashion, has exacerbated an already bad situation by injecting himself into the middle of a coach/player relationship and siding with the player, rather than to GTFO and let the coaches do their jobs to work through the issue. And sometimes, coaches just have enough of a meddling twerp, so they just smile and walk away.

Just ask Norv Turner, Joe Gibbs, Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier, and Jim Zorn. They all have the same story.

Danzig 12-12-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 956869)
Haslett has nothing to do with how decimated this Defense is due to injury. They were just fine last year.

Shany Jr. has nothing to do with how woefully ill-equipped RG III was prepared to return, nor can he help the injuries to their WR corp and TE's.
His offensive schemes got them to the playoffs last year. Schemes built around a healthy, running threat of a QB that he never got that back.

Everyone is looking to find the closest tree to hang the warmest body from, and the sad reality is that the logical alternatives are no better.

Snyder, in typical fashion, has exacerbated an already bad situation by injecting himself into the middle of a coach/player relationship and siding with the player, rather than to GTFO and let the coaches do their jobs to work through the issue. And sometimes, coaches just have enough of a meddling twerp, so they just smile and walk away.

Just ask Norv Turner, Joe Gibbs, Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier, and Jim Zorn. They all have the same story.

oh, absolutely dan snyder is the driving force behind how bad things are. but, sadly, we can't fire the owner.
norv turner-really, really good OC. really bad head coach. joe gibbs, hall of famer, but i think he'd been gone too long, and hadn't kept up with all the changes in football since he'd left-and then there's the curse of the owner. marty-snyder fired him only because he was bedazzled by spurrier, who is a joke and i can't stand. jim zorn was in so far over his head it was beyond ridiculous. his re-calling of the trick play was without a doubt my lowest ever moment as a fan.
now i only need him to hire nick saban. that would be the icing on the cake.

Rudeboyelvis 12-12-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 956872)
oh, absolutely dan snyder is the driving force behind how bad things are. but, sadly, we can't fire the owner.
norv turner-really, really good OC. really bad head coach. joe gibbs, hall of famer, but i think he'd been gone too long, and hadn't kept up with all the changes in football since he'd left-and then there's the curse of the owner. marty-snyder fired him only because he was bedazzled by spurrier, who is a joke and i can't stand. jim zorn was in so far over his head it was beyond ridiculous. his re-calling of the trick play was without a doubt my lowest ever moment as a fan.
now i only need him to hire nick saban. that would be the icing on the cake.

:eek::eek:

Thankfully not happening, but even if he were available I would bet you'd see Romeo Crennel than anybody that would have a choice.

I don't know who in their right mind would take the job, quite frankly. The team is getting old, and they have frittered away their quality draft picks for the foreseeable future on RG III, so even if Snyder has an epiphany and decides to get his nose out of the business, the team is going to be bad for many years to come. I'd say the Snyder-era coaches #8 through #10 will collect checks, go through the motions, and get the boot when their term runs out. Either RG III gets his groove back, or it gets much worse from here.

docicu3 12-13-2013 04:27 AM

The problem is that bored billionaire Danny doesn't want to be an owner, but he can't be a player at his age so he sneaks around playing general manager forcing bad personnel deals like the guys on the list above but never admitting to the public or media he is the madman, always overpaying for whatever he wants and always seeing it go bad because he's not qualified to manage a team.

You would think he would have learned from the Bruce Smith, Stubby, Deion era's to name a few....but he just can't help himself so instead of signing has beens on the downside or coaches who don't fit he now burns high end draft picks that grow in value like this years likely #2 pick in the first round......this team will take years to fix but more likely is toast as long as Snyder does his best Jerry Jones impression.......a pity skin fans paid for that stadium and never got a solid team that lasted.

jms62 12-13-2013 05:58 AM

I'm a Bills fan. The Redskins are a model franchise in comparison.

MaTH716 01-09-2014 08:18 AM

Adam Schefter
Jay Gruden has agreed to become the next head coach of the Washington Redskins, per league source.

randallscott35 01-09-2014 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 960206)
Adam Schefter
Jay Gruden has agreed to become the next head coach of the Washington Redskins, per league source.

Not John. No good

Rudeboyelvis 01-09-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 960210)
Not John. No good

Hey, hardware don't lie:



At least they aren't a giant silver Hardee's drink cup like they were back in the day when the Baltimore Stars won it and Hardee's sponsored it. EDIT: The Stars were the USFL team...I just remember seeing the trophy displayed in a sports bar in the Inner Harbor back in the late 80's. It was comically impressive.


Still no GM, but an Arena League Icon. Way to fire, Danny boy.

Danzig 01-09-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 960206)
Adam Schefter
Jay Gruden has agreed to become the next head coach of the Washington Redskins, per league source.

poor jay

MaTH716 01-09-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 960217)
poor jay

It looks like they are keeping/re-arranging some of the current staff. You would think after a 2-14 season and hiring a new coach, there would be an entire overhaul of the staff.

Snyders never gonna learn.

Danzig 01-09-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 960219)
It looks like they are keeping/re-arranging some of the current staff. You would think after a 2-14 season and hiring a new coach, there would be an entire overhaul of the staff.

Snyders never gonna learn.

no, he's not. i'm beginning to think he should change the name...not to placate those who protest, but because he's brought too much shame to it.

jms62 01-09-2014 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 960219)
It looks like they are keeping/re-arranging some of the current staff. You would think after a 2-14 season and hiring a new coach, there would be an entire overhaul of the staff.

Snyders never gonna learn.

Always a good beginning when you start a new job without the ability to build your own staff. Snyder is comically bad at managing a sports franchise.

ninetoone 01-09-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 960232)
Always a good beginning when you start a new job without the ability to build your own staff. Snyder is comically bad at managing a sports franchise.

Rotating bald tires. Just like the coaching carousel in the NFL.

Rudeboyelvis 01-09-2014 07:45 PM

Daniel said in the intro presser that Gruden will be "Calling all of the plays"


I almost crashed my truck lolling




He has GOT to be the only man willing to take the check. No one in their right mind would work for that tool.

Ironically, I would have loved to have seen him in Tampa, rather than Buccaneers 2000 V 2.0 that we are going to be subjected to, and who's style went out with Pearl Jam.

MaTH716 01-17-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 960219)
It looks like they are keeping/re-arranging some of the current staff. You would think after a 2-14 season and hiring a new coach, there would be an entire overhaul of the staff.

Snyders never gonna learn.

Tarik El-Bashir ‏@TarikCSN 15m
#Redskins announce Jim Haslett will return as DC. Wes Phillips in as TE coach and Chris Foerster returns as OL coach. #RedskinsTalk

Rudeboyelvis 01-17-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 961265)
Tarik El-Bashir ‏@TarikCSN 15m
#Redskins announce Jim Haslett will return as DC. Wes Phillips in as TE coach and Chris Foerster returns as OL coach. #RedskinsTalk

Smartest decision they've made. Haslett is a top shelf DC.


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