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Seattleallstar 11-01-2013 01:56 PM

Santa Anita Lunacy so far
 
*sigh*

robfla 11-01-2013 01:59 PM

$2.00 Double 12/9 paid $3096.20 - good thing I got shut out

Scav 11-01-2013 05:16 PM

Its really a shame. Really dont understand why they HAVE to do this and its gonna get someone really hurt. (See first turn of dirt mile)

freddymo 11-01-2013 05:27 PM

It's embarrassing.

Scav 11-01-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 951934)
It's embarrassing.

Exactly. I like Goldencents but that last race is just ridiculous. He couldnt have gone ANY faster for the first 4 furlongs and no one makes up any ground. Game is hard enough but this just makes people sour

jms62 11-01-2013 05:32 PM

Going to be a lot of pissed off owners and trainers.. Host site has an obligation to owners, trainers and bettors to create a fair environment. This is anything but fair.

pointman 11-01-2013 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 951934)
It's embarrassing.

It really is and they are talking about making it permanent there. What a joke.

Did the pk6 meet the guarantee?

RockHardTen1985 11-01-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by arizonadave (Post 951940)
Ken Ramsey said Castellano will never ride Bobbys Kitten again. Went out to fast.

I did not mind his ride. Whats amazing was his price. The Euros dominate this race every year..... I thought 9-2 would have been fair. I believe it was mentioned on the National Racing Report that his downfall could be that he has been a bit rank. Im not a Castellano fan, but he did nothing wrong. Why fight with the horse, I never understand that. I feel he gave the horse the best chance to win and was run down by 2 better horses.

Scav 11-01-2013 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 951943)
It really is and they are talking about making it permanent there. What a joke.

Did the pk6 meet the guarantee?

As far as I can tell, it missed the guarantee by over 100k. ($891,012)

pointman 11-01-2013 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 951947)
As far as I can tell, it missed the guarantee by over 100k. ($891,012)

Thanks, that is a major embarrassment.

randallscott35 11-01-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 951939)
Going to be a lot of pissed off owners and trainers.. Host site has an obligation to owners, trainers and bettors to create a fair environment. This is anything but fair.

But the weather...I'd prefer Monmouth in the rain to this and I've bet all of 1 of these races so far.

pointman 11-01-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 951955)
But the weather...I'd prefer Monmouth in the rain to this and I've bet all of 1 of these races so far.

It is currently 61 degrees in New York right now after hitting 70 today. There was a little rain this morning, but not enough to have affected taking races off the turf, particularly since this would have been Belmont's closing weekend if it was held here.

randallscott35 11-01-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 951956)
It is currently 61 degrees in New York right now after hitting 70 today. There was a little rain this morning, but not enough to have affected taking races off the turf, particularly since this would have been Belmont's closing weekend if it was held here.

Yup. Beautiful. Was pushing my kid on the swing while the Marathon was going on.

jms62 11-01-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 951955)
But the weather...I'd prefer Monmouth in the rain to this and I've bet all of 1 of these races so far.

Very clever redboard ;) You are not losing as much as we are

declansharbor 11-01-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 951923)
Its really a shame. Really dont understand why they HAVE to do this and its gonna get someone really hurt. (See first turn of dirt mile)

Gettin' it ready for Game on Dude :rolleyes:

randallscott35 11-01-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 951958)
Very clever redboard ;) You are not losing as much as we are

Yes thank you. Too bad my year has been so shitty. Much more of the reason I am gun shy but the track condition is as good of a reason as any so I went with it.

jms62 11-01-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 951969)
Yes thank you. Too bad my year has been so shitty. Much more of the reason I am gun shy but the track condition is as good of a reason as any so I went with it.

You are disciplined. I wait all year for this and have done well the last 3 years. Today not so good but it only takes one swing of the bat.

randallscott35 11-01-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 951970)
You are disciplined. I wait all year for this and have done well the last 3 years. Today not so good but it only takes one swing of the bat.

Its called dependents...totally right by the way, you must be relatively new here.....In '05 I was down 3k before the Distaff. Bought an Acura TL off the lot after the race. One swing on Cup day is all you need.

RockHardTen1985 11-01-2013 06:34 PM

Anyone here use capitalotb??? I just went into the new website for the first time and messed around with the extened account calculator and its 100% broken. It says I have bet $8900 this year and lost $8600, no shot.

pointman 11-01-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 951973)
Anyone here use capitalotb??? I just went into the new website for the first time and messed around with the extened account calculator and its 100% broken. It says I have bet $8900 this year and lost $8600, no shot.

The truth hurts sometimes.

RockHardTen1985 11-01-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 951974)
The truth hurts sometimes.

Its broken. It says I didnt wager from Jan to May then did from May until last month. Also my biggest handle days... Derby, Belmont, Peakness, opening day toga, travers JCGC im either at Racino or an OTB so I dont use account. Its broken. Ill happily let a stand up trustworthy person like you log in and look around if you want. Like I said I havnt used it and just found out things changed so I had to set it up for tomorrow morning.

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-01-2013 06:40 PM

dahoss broke it for you:rolleyes:

jms62 11-01-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 951979)
dahoss broke it for you:rolleyes:

Where is that guy? He was a good player.

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-01-2013 06:43 PM

dont know..

RockHardTen1985 11-01-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 951979)
dahoss broke it for you:rolleyes:

Shoot me a PM you I would also trust you to take a look.... I called but they said to call back Monday to much other stuff going on. Im concerned w/ this bogus ROI

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-01-2013 06:53 PM

I DONT CARE..sorry

RockHardTen1985 11-01-2013 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 951997)
I DONT CARE..sorry

Nice bet on Hatches btw. I lost 30 keying her in the 2 day double.

booner 11-01-2013 06:55 PM

Does today's bias come into play when voting for 3 year old filly?

This could be fun to follow.....

randallscott35 11-01-2013 06:57 PM

the better question is the track the opposite tomorrow after this **** show....stay tuned

pointman 11-01-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 952003)
the better question is the track the opposite tomorrow after this **** show....stay tuned

Yet another reason why the pk5 is so poorly placed.

randallscott35 11-01-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 952006)
Yet another reason why the pk5 is so poorly placed.

excellent point....i don't play multirace often so i wouldn't even think of that

pointman 11-01-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by booner (Post 952002)
Does today's bias come into play when voting for 3 year old filly?

This could be fun to follow.....

Any race run on dirt today should not be considered in voting IMO. Frankly, I would not have blamed them if they scratched Princess of Sylmar since she had no chance on that track.

Scav 11-01-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 952007)
excellent point....i don't play multirace often so i wouldn't even think of that

You should. Tomorrow's P5 at Santa Anita might be the best value multi race exotic of all time considering the low take, and 1 millie in the kitty already.

If you can find a way to beat Flashback in the 2nd (which with the way the track is playing, its extremely possible because I don't see him on the lead), it will absolutely massive.

10 pnt move up 11-01-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 952009)
Any race run on dirt today should not be considered in voting IMO. Frankly, I would not have blamed them if they scratched Princess of Sylmar since she had no chance on that track.

She still didnt run a step, track did not get her beat 17 lengths.

Scav 11-01-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 952009)
Any race run on dirt today should not be considered in voting IMO. Frankly, I would not have blamed them if they scratched Princess of Sylmar since she had no chance on that track.

It would have been great to see that, would have really REALLY made a statement because they could have scratched up to 2 hrs before post.

pointman 11-01-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 952011)
She still didnt run a step, track did not get her beat 17 lengths.

Who did run a step from that far back today?

10 pnt move up 11-01-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 952013)
Who did run a step from that far back today?

She was 4 lengths back of Royal Delta in their last race, she was 10 back today, she did no running at any point.

I agree once she did not run early she was not going to make up much ground but you think she could have passed a Royal Delta who stopped at the QP.

randallscott35 11-01-2013 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 952010)
You should. Tomorrow's P5 at Santa Anita might be the best value multi race exotic of all time considering the low take, and 1 millie in the kitty already.

If you can find a way to beat Flashback in the 2nd (which with the way the track is playing, its extremely possible because I don't see him on the lead), it will absolutely massive.

I will take a peek but I have strong opinions on single horses, never lots of races.

pointman 11-01-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 952014)
She was 4 lengths back of Royal Delta in their last race, she was 10 back today, she did no running at any point.

I agree once she did not run early she was not going to make up much ground but you think she could have passed a Royal Delta who stopped at the QP.

The fact that she could not get past Royal Delta who I agree stopped IMO confirms even more how much the bias affected the results today.

10 pnt move up 11-01-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 952016)
The fact that she could not get past Royal Delta who I agree stopped IMO confirms even more how much the bias affected the results today.

You think she ran today and it was the track that held her back?


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