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randallscott35 10-07-2013 05:48 PM

Denver -27 Vs Jags
 
Who you got?

ateamstupid 10-07-2013 05:58 PM

Jacksonville. Blackmon's return and Gabbert's exit will make them more competent offensively and we saw yesterday when Denver's defense is worth.

Broncos 45-24

randallscott35 10-07-2013 06:00 PM

The 10 highest spreads in history....faves are 3-7 so taking the points is usually the play. I don't know. Jax is very bad.

RockHardTen1985 10-07-2013 06:29 PM

Looks like its 27.5 across the board on donbest.com
I disagree with Joe. I think if anything Denver's D will be mad n play better going home. Even though I'm totally against Denver as far as winning the AFC, this is a horrible Jags team.
I like Denver 52-7.......

Cannon Shell 10-07-2013 08:59 PM

The biggest problem with a spread like this in the NFL is unlike college there is no reason to win style points and run it up or even have much more than a vanilla game plan. I can see Denver being up 42-10 and just starting running it up the middle and playing prevent and Jacksonville scoring a late backdoor cover TD. Certainly if there was an incentive to Denver could beat them by 40.

RockHardTen1985 10-07-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 948398)
The biggest problem with a spread like this in the NFL is unlike college there is no reason to win style points and run it up or even have much more than a vanilla game plan. I can see Denver being up 42-10 and just starting running it up the middle and playing prevent and Jacksonville scoring a late backdoor cover TD. Certainly if there was an incentive to Denver could beat them by 40.

I should have added something like this. I would never bet Denver in this spot because something like 35-0 at half n then Denver shuts it down. And you end up with 35-10 or 7 and no cover.

Clip-Clop 10-08-2013 11:53 AM

Comes in around 52-10 or so is my guess. Broncos offense has publicly stated the goal is to score a TD every possession. I know this is the goal of all offenses but they back it up. Likely we will see Peyton sit halfway through the third quarter, they should be at 45 or more by then. Defense holds up their end if Woodyard and Ayers are back in which it looks like they will be.

jms62 10-08-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 948429)
Comes in around 52-10 or so is my guess. Broncos offense has publicly stated the goal is to score a TD every possession. I know this is the goal of all offenses but they back it up. Likely we will see Peyton sit halfway through the third quarter, they should be at 45 or more by then. Defense holds up their end if Woodyard and Ayers are back in which it looks like they will be.

Like they held up their end on Sunday?

Clip-Clop 10-08-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 948431)
Like they held up their end on Sunday?

When it mattered, yes. Playing without Champ, Von, Ayers, Harris AND Woodyard I would say they did OK.

This Jags team has no Romo, Bryant or Witten to deal with.

RockHardTen1985 10-08-2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 948431)
Like they held up their end on Sunday?

Huge trap game for Denver @ Dallas. I'm surprised they even won. How can you compare Denver @ Dallas to them @ home vs the worst team in the NFL??

asudevil 10-08-2013 01:58 PM

You heard it here....if Dallas cleans up a few issues, and stays relatively healthy, they will be very dangerous toward the end of the season. Other than New Orleans and Seattle, they can hang with every NFC team.

RockHardTen1985 10-08-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 948442)
You heard it here....if Dallas cleans up a few issues, and stays relatively healthy, they will be very dangerous toward the end of the season. Other than New Orleans and Seattle, they can hang with every NFC team.

Green Bay will crush Dallas.

MaTH716 10-08-2013 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 948442)
You heard it here....if Dallas cleans up a few issues, and stays relatively healthy, they will be very dangerous toward the end of the season. Other than New Orleans and Seattle, they can hang with every NFC team.

They are saying this exact same thing in like 4 other cities...............

:zz:

jms62 10-08-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 948441)
Huge trap game for Denver @ Dallas. I'm surprised they even won. How can you compare Denver @ Dallas to them @ home vs the worst team in the NFL??

How can I compare? I am not but ANY DEFENSE that gives up 48 Points in the NFL is very suspect. There is little margin for error with a 28 point spread since I don't see Peyton in with the score 45-0 because if he is , he better protect his knees. Do you think it is absolutely impossible that Jax scores 21 points?

declansharbor 10-08-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 948432)
When it mattered, yes. Playing without Champ, Von, Ayers, Harris AND Woodyard I would say they did OK.

This Jags team has no Romo, Bryant or Witten to deal with.

:tro:

Even the very high powered 2001 St Louis Rams only scored 15 points in a game that year against the Giants.

Simply put, one game means nothing. They'll be a very good defense once they get all their pieces back.

RockHardTen1985 10-08-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 948447)
How can I compare? I am not but ANY DEFENSE that gives up 48 Points in the NFL is very suspect. There is little margin for error with a 28 point spread since I don't see Peyton in with the score 45-0 because if he is , he better protect his knees. Do you think it is absolutely impossible that Jax scores 21 points?

I agree about the D. I have stated multiple times Kansas City wins that division. But the Jags are really bad.

3kings 10-08-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 948442)
You heard it here....if Dallas cleans up a few issues, and stays relatively healthy, they will be very dangerous toward the end of the season. Other than New Orleans and Seattle, they can hang with every NFC team.

Romo is going to stop choking when the game is on the line? The odds of him stringing 3 playoff wins together without choking are not good.

knickslions2 10-08-2013 03:45 PM

Pretty amazing

Jacksonville has 51 points total this year same as Broncos scored last week.

Broncos average 40 per game and Jacksonville 10.

I would never bet this game but Jacksonville will be lucky to keep this within 40. They are terrible and Denvers offense is in a different league.

RockHardTen1985 10-08-2013 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 948455)
Pretty amazing

Jacksonville has 51 points total this year same as Broncos scored last week.

Broncos average 40 per game and Jacksonville 10.

I would neve
r bet this game but Jacksonville will be lucky to keep this within 40. They are terrible and Denvers offense is in a different league.

Until they play KC.

randallscott35 10-08-2013 04:30 PM

KC has had a nice season so far RHT but I think you are really overrating them.

asudevil 10-08-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 948443)
Green Bay will crush Dallas.

Wrong...look, you're feeling confident right now after a nice streak. Don't start getting like Wayne Root or some off the other "experts."

RockHardTen1985 10-08-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 948477)
Wrong...look, you're feeling confident right now after a nice streak. Don't start getting like Wayne Root or some off the other "experts."

That has nothing to do with anything..... Some teams are frauds. Dallas, Atlanta and Houston. They will never win it with current QBs.

RockHardTen1985 10-08-2013 06:17 PM

Honestly Dallas won't even win the NFC east.

declansharbor 10-08-2013 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 948479)
Honestly Dallas won't even win the NFC east.

Don't you dare mush the Eagles! Esp after you bet against them in the only games they've won so far!

RockHardTen1985 10-08-2013 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 948482)
Don't you dare mush the Eagles! Esp after you bet against them in the only games they've won so far!

I also bet KC on Thursday vs them.
Philly or Washington wins it.

randallscott35 10-09-2013 06:32 AM

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Danzig 10-09-2013 08:40 AM

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randallscott35 10-10-2013 07:47 AM

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/10/jaguar...op-10-spreads/

RockHardTen1985 10-13-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 948386)
Jacksonville. Blackmon's return and Gabbert's exit will make them more competent offensively and we saw yesterday when Denver's defense is worth.

Broncos 45-24

Blackmon 7 catches 82 yards..... Making an impact for sure.

ateamstupid 10-13-2013 05:19 PM

Told you guys. Blackmon is a beast.

Clip-Clop 10-15-2013 10:24 AM

Defense showed up, offense didn't do them any favors.

Clip-Clop 10-15-2013 11:48 AM

http://www.theonion.com/articles/bro...view:1:Default

No one does it better than The Onion.


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