Andy Serling Shows His Class
 

Readily admitted on twitter how bad he's doing handicapping Saratoga of late. I had friends up for the weekend attending the races and urged them to pay attention to Andy's selections since they are new to the game. Every 'unbeatable' or 'free square' favorite lost while his beat the favorite selections were all up the track. My friends unfortunately went broke.

sharp post

fowler showing his class?

Since this is apparently Andy Serling Day, I would like to say that the National Racing Report is absolutely the best racing show out there. :tro:

Great job Andy and some of us really value your work!

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Maybe your friends, and maybe you, should just learn from his methodology, how he views certain races and horses, and his thoughts instead of being lemmings and following every pick of a public handicapper.

hear, hear......sound advice. :tro:

Sorry your friends lost. Especially being new to the track it's not the outcome anybody wants when it comes to making them become more involved in the game. Having said that, I find your comments way off base. There's not a public handicapper out there, much less any handicapper on this site, who's right all the time! Sometimes we see races one way on paper, then when they spring the latch it goes a different way from a pace standpoint, or in a ton of frustrating times, a jockey decision standpoint. I don't think there's a man in this game who watches more replays, or works any harder than one Andy Serling. He does a terrific job, these are opinions and we all have them good or bad. I respect Andy for the information he provides, and the work he does. I have not had the pleasure to meet Andy in person, but he is a class act.

of course...his 3rd post nonetheless...

Odds fowler actually had friends up and urged them to bet Serling's picks....10,000,000,000 to 1.

Odds he is just using this as a backhanded stab:

1-100.

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Gamble at your own risk. Advise friends how to gamble? Never. Show them how to read the form, offer encouragement. If their horse doesn't come in? Well, that's horse racing.

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went to bloodhorse earlier, they linked to your blog about the pac classic time.

I laughed.

This might be the same a$$clown ('SerlingisaPiker' or whatever the f his name is) that harrasses him on Twitter.

I have a friend who was running the in annual 5k over at Belmont during Stakes week. We met up at the track in time for the last race that day, and my friend, who had never been to the track before, was keen to place his first bet. I'm not a handicapper by any stretch of the imagination, so when he asked who he should bet on, I told him I saw tweet from Andy Serling that said he wasn't going to try and beat the 7 horse in the finale.

The 7 won. My friend was thrilled to cash a ticket, even if it was a small one, on his first bet ever.

Thanks, Andy.

ETA - And now, just this last Saturday, this friend was arguing with me on who would win the Travers. :D

Saratoga, one of the hardest tracks to pick winners at no matter what your experience is. don't blame andy, he's trying his best like the rest of us.

I've had a terrible meet at Saratoga as well. A good gambler should always admit when he's off. This is not an easy game. I like the fact that he said that. It's refreshing.

Wait...this isn't a complimentary thread?

I'm so disillusioned.

funny enough i took the initial post as a compliment as well but no one else seemed too. Im just so glass half full these days

He is also much shorter in person.
Him and the boss put the hours in, its hard work they do so we dont have to. Its a great edge to have guys that could make a ton of money keeping their opinions to themselves, but don't, for a greater love of the sport. It's noble work, and should be applauded.

Noble work is Doctors Without Borders....but I digress.

I used to think EMT's did noble work, but they just like to play with the sirens.:o

Fowler has a lot to learn about introducing newcomers to the track. C'mon if you are going to say Andy has no class he at least has to snub you. Bad selections? NOBODY wins everyday.

Andy is one of the best public handicappers in the game. He works very hard and goes above and beyond to respond to questions via email, twitter and of course his appearances on Steve's At the Races. He has set the bar pretty high for handicapping commentators.

We all know how tough this game is and even the VERY BEST like Andy will have their off meets. If I had to go to war at the races I would want Andy in the fox hole right next to me!

Hmm. Dino lives in Saratoga and Dino has a hard-on for Andy when he loses a few.. Just sayin.

Caleb's Posse......just saying.:$::$::$:

I was having a great meet until Travers week or maybe even Travers day.

Now I'm going to cry.

Perhaps I should have expanded. All horseplayers go bad but it's the ones with credibility that admit it.

And to think Riot left that line of work to double-dose defenseless horses. ;)

hey, i always say if you're going to do it, take pride in it. the one you mentioned would get more respect than someone like fowler, with his backhanded roundabout dig.


no, really, you've done enough.

try not to lose too much sleep over it andy.

i mean, some people went broke, and it's all your fault...but it'll be ok.

If you were closer to the game and paid attention you'd know that if you play Andy's selections and they lose, simply find him at the track and will reimburse your wagers.

After all, this if for fun.

I guess no one remembers the Siro's seminars where Andy would continuously make disparaging comments about people in the horse racing industry ( yours truly included). He takes the low salaried position at NYRA and suddenly becomes Mr. nice guy and loves everyone. I don't buy it. He may have credibility selecting horses but as a human being he's not genuine. Having said that I would encourage every one to listen to him when he discusses the horses but it should end there.

fowler, instead of engaging in this thread, maybe you should just go apologize to your friends for your bad advice? you're the one who told them to listen to andy, and didn't tell them to also do their own work.

Funny, it only took until your 3rd post in the thread to make your agenda clear.

Your done.. My friend Andy is first class gentleman. Sure he can be difficult so what does everyone have to be the same. I have known this man for a decade plus and he has grown into a dynamic force in racing and he did it by working hard busting his ass and being decent and respectful to people.

Get lost!

Is this Chris Fowler of ESPN fame? Didn't he pee off a roof in NO during a Super Bowl? Or was that Gary Meyers?

I guess no ones remembers the Siro's seminars where Andy would continuously make disparaging comments about people in the horse racing industry ( yours truly included). He takes the low salaried position at NYRA and suddenly becomes Mr. nice guy and loves everyone. I don't buy it. He may have credibility selecting horses but as a human being he's not genuine. Having said that I would encourage every one to listen to him when he discusses the horses but it should end there.

If you are going to disparage a person's genuineness, don't hide behind an alias. Put your name and agenda to it. Don't be a hit and run low life.

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it doesn't get better with the re-telling.

don't go away mad, but please...do go away.

Nick if you see it as my latest axe to grind I think you seriously missed the point.