Arc upset
 

Deep Impact finishes best of the 'Big THree', but he is only third (by a length or so). 3yo Rail Link and mare Pride run him down in the last yards. Without a race since June, could he have been a touch short? Same thing as Heart's Cry at Ascot - looked all over a winner only to flatten in the final yards.

In fairness to Deep Impact he was much closer to the pace than he prefers as the connections were obviously overly concerned with the lack of pace. I guess considering where Pride came from they were mistaken in their tactics.

can someone help me and let me know who finished ahead of whom? Shirocco or Hurricane Run?

What Rail Link go off at??

Hurricane Run finished fourth. No room to run. Shirocco is still running.

hurricane run 4th and i think shirraco finished last

I don't know.

Thanks....let me know when he finishes so that I can quit snapping my fingers and yelling for him to get up:D

22-1? 25-1? I think.

Anothe one of those terriable 3yr olds. The fillie was flying at the end.

Yeah, I was really shrieking for her to get up. Oh well.

I wonder if the 'Big three' weren't paying too much attention to one another and not enough to the others in the race? It may be that Take had instructions to stay close to Hurricane Run, since that was the one they feared. Won the battle, lost the war. (That's how Jim Dandy won the Travers in 1930 - Gallant Fox and Whichone's jockeys were so concerned about watching each other, they didn't pay any attention to the longshot.)

who on here alwasys talks about pride? i was screaming "get up girl get up girl" she ran great..... on tvg rail link went off at 12/1 which sucks considering he was 25/1 there really a chance for a score if you were there. the guys on tvg kept talking about rail link sayin that he was improving 3yr old and mike tabor was sc\ared of him the most. man that was exciting...i have got to see that live one day

Pride!!! That's my girl! :)

Congrats to Ms. Gallant Bloom who had the tri (... and yes i will keep posting that all over the place, thank you very much). :D

congrats to rail link and connections!! wonder if he comes over....

my miss...i was pulling like all get out for her to get up man what a turn of foot she showed i swear i love watching these european races b/c it is so visually impressive and just you can see the horses fly home and visually quicken. did you have anything on pride? to bad you didn't get the odds from the track b/c i think she was like 30/1 there. Congrats though your girl did you proud!!!!!

Her coming in 2nd was my payment. :)

Thrilled.....

Glad you were rooting for her too, and that she showed the world (again!) how special she is.

Beautiful run by Rail Link. :cool:

My miss even though im a guy i always root for the girls when they step up to challenge the boys i really have to give it too them for trying and it seems like she and oujia aren't afraid of the boys so good for them. what a race...

Damn, Check this out.

I go to the track to make some bets thinking a Deep Impact/Rail Link Ex
So put down 50 Ex on that and was going to throw down 200 win on Deep Impact but changed my mind when I see him at 1/5. so put down some tri bets(none with Pride). Right as I leave I put down a small 10 Place bet on Rail Link

STUPID ME!!! Never thought in million years he would be all of the Big three

I hate horse racing:D

tycharles that does suck man sorry to hear that what made you put rail link in your bets? i didnt even look at him till the guys on tvg were talking about him.

I was amazed to see Deep Impact open at 1/10. That was crazy. Tabor all week was fearing Rail Link. Three year olds have performed very well in the ARC over the past few years. Deep Impact performed better than I thought but he still doesnt compare to was Europe has to offer. I wonder if Shirrocco will even come over to the US for any Breeders Cup race. The connections cannot be happy about his performace. Hurrican Run had an opening but was unable to accelerate through the opening like he did last year so he has zero excuse. I wonder if Hurrican Run will now come over. I also wonder if Rail Link will come over. If I was the connections of Rail Link I would not come over. If Shirrocco and Hurrican Run are healthy and I owened them I was send on over for some redemption.

Connections of Rail Link are thinking of putting him away for the rest of the year. I'm hoping Pride comes over for the Filly and Mare B.C..

I'd not come over with any of them. I'd head to the Japan Cup.

what are you talking about? he didn't even run his race and was only beat a length.

The same could be said for Hurrican Run and Shirrocco. They didnt run their race. Deep Impact ran about as well as he possible could. He had the lead and let TWO horses go by and one of the horses was a mare.

If none of the big three ran their races, and Deep Impact outran them off a 3 month layoff, travel to the other side of the world, up closer than his liking due to lack of pace and lost to a horse which won it's last 4 in a row (3 at Longchamp), doesn't that make him their superior?

Give Deep Impact a prep race, a pace, and his usual positioning toward the back of the field and he's the winner IMO.

now don't go bringing logic into this argument....

That same mare, Pride, beat Hurricane Run earlier in this year and just lost by a half length to Hurricane Run and Shirocco in the Prix Foy. She almost got them in that race as well. She was coming to them at the end. She had every right to fire big time in this race. It didn't surprise me at all that she almost won the race.

Deep Impact clearly did not run his race. Quite frankly, I think the horse was short from the layoff, and he obviously was a little closer to the pace than he would have liked to have been. If the big three ever face again, Deep Impact will hand it to them. Deep Impact proved to me that he really is the best turf horse in the world in this race.

With that being said, I don't think Hurricane Run is himself. He wasn't himself in the Prix Foy. He didn't switch leads until he hit the wire in the Prix Foy. His gallop doesn't look as good as it used to. I think that he is having some soundness issues.

A partial list.....

Hurricane Run
Shirocco
Alkaased
Oratorio
Rakti
Alexander Goldrun
Scorpion
Warrsan
Cherry Mix
Mubtaker
Pinson
Phoenix Reach
Westerner
Chic
Grey Swallow
Policy Maker
Rob Roy
Epalo
Touch of land
Russian Pearl

Pride has beat some pretty tough horses..... I think she deserves to be called by her name. :p

Yeah, I think he was a little short too, and think that he was much the best in that field of horses considering that he was also incredibly close to the pace. The horse is the real deal. That race only made me believe in his abilities even more.

The plan for Pride has been the Arc, the Japan Cup, and Hong Kong in December. :)

Ditto. He was a lot closer to the pace than normal. I was impressed.

How could anyone train a horse and not have him fully cranked for what is generally considered the top race in the world. Lots od excuses for the also rans. To remind everyone it was Nail and Pride 1/2 and they were honest pace and didnt have the race served up to them.

Rail Link was near 15-1 in the States and 25-1 in Europe.

Deep Impact had run off a long layoff before. I don't think that's an excuse. Not that running 3rd beaten less than a length in this race needs an excuse. That's still one of the finest horses in the world.

I had a whopping $5 win on both Rail Link and Shirocco so I had the field surrounded. Boxed 4 horses in the exacta, ignoring Deep Impact, and still managed to miss Pride in the 2nd spot.

i don't take anything away from rail link and pride. they ran great races and deserve their accolades.

as for deep impact; i don't know if you've seen him run before but what you saw in the arc is not his style of running. he was too keen early, rank , on the muscle...whatever you want to call it. his usual style is to settle back behind horses and come running late. the way he ran in the arc is very typical of a horse coming off of a layoff. i guess the connections didn't think he would react that way but he did. and it cost 'em. big time.

I'm sorry, but Deep Impact hardly ever races that close up to the front... to finish that gamely, I'm impressed. He is one hell of a horse.

Apparently (according to either DRF or Bloodstock Journal, I don't remember which) Deep Impact's odds were driven down by a very large group of Japanese fans that came to France just to root for Deep Impact. Once the big part of that money hit the tote board, other money came in on the rest of the field to balance it, but I don't think the "other money" ever fully compensated for the massive Japanese money bet on Deep Impact. It was a good opportunity for anyone looking for an inefficient market.

It reminds me of the good ol' days when pools were not mingled. When there was an East/West confrontation in the Ky Derby, you could get a guaranteed win by betting the East Coast horse at a West Coast track, and vice versa. The most extreme case I remember was Mr. Frisky, who went off at something like 1-10 in Puerto Rico for the Derby. I think he was something like 3-1 at Churchill. (long time ago, numbers could be way off)

--Dunbar