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GBBob 07-18-2013 10:42 AM

Rolling Stone Cover
 
New cover..Freedom of Speech or went too far?

jms62 07-18-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 935589)
New cover..Freedom of Speech or went too far?

They certainly have the right however it is way too far in my opinion.

MaTH716 07-18-2013 11:03 AM

I don't see the photo as trying to glamourize the kid. It's the same photo that was also used in the Times at some point.

If they wrote a hard knocking inside story on the kid/tragedy, what are they supposed to put on the cover, Lady Gaga?

So I really have no problem with it.


I saw someone post this on twitter, is that photo worse/more offensive than this one?

hoovesupsideyourhead 07-18-2013 11:45 AM

They Have The Right..imo..stupid But ....

casp0555 07-18-2013 11:53 AM

I agree with Hooves, I dont read this publication very often but I totally do not support any type of glamorization of criminals, especially murdurers (albeit innocent until proven guilty).

Rileyoriley 07-18-2013 12:29 PM

Freedom of speech but very poor taste.
Happy most places in Massachusetts have refused to put it on the shelves.

declansharbor 07-18-2013 01:34 PM

Completely idiotic.

Let's send the message that the next nutjob to go off the deep end will get the cover. :rolleyes:


As beautiful as America is, we really do make some ****d up decisions.

TheSpyder 07-18-2013 01:58 PM

Cover? No. Look, you don't think some idiot was saying something like..."Yea, I bet this causes a big stink and we get lots of extra press" Most likely related to the person who passed along the pilots names! Classless.

randallscott35 07-18-2013 02:07 PM

Sure it is offensive...you vote with your dollars. Don't buy it.

Danzig 07-18-2013 02:09 PM

another example of there's no such thing as bad publicity. not crazy about the cover. i think it was a bad decision.

but on the poll, voted freedom of speech.

dellinger63 07-18-2013 02:30 PM

Free speech; of course I have the choice of buying it or walking away. Something Obamacare is missing. But sometimes the constitution is right and sometimes it's not. Similar to the bible I guess. :wf

GenuineRisk 07-18-2013 02:51 PM

I would have been more impressed if Rolling Stone, or magazine, for that matter, instead had devoted a cover to the owners of the fertilizer storage facility that blew up two days after the Boston Marathon bombing, seeing as how it killed more people, did much more damage, and was much more preventable (the company lied to the EPA about what they were storing):

http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/04/26/...h-of-it-wrong/

I read a quote somewhere after both tragedies that terrorists crave publicity and owners of companies that violate laws try to avoid it, and the media is happy to give both of them what they want.

Danzig 07-18-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 935626)
I would have been more impressed if Rolling Stone, or magazine, for that matter, instead had devoted a cover to the owners of the fertilizer storage facility that blew up two days after the Boston Marathon bombing, seeing as how it killed more people, did much more damage, and was much more preventable (the company lied to the EPA about what they were storing):

http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/04/26/...h-of-it-wrong/

I read a quote somewhere after both tragedies that terrorists crave publicity and owners of companies that violate laws try to avoid it, and the media is happy to give both of them what they want.

:tro:

i find it ironic that tx wanted to secede and then complained fema didn't give them enough $. that they say they don't want more regulations, especially not on business and industry (see storage facility, above) but they just had a second special session to force more regulations on businesses....
ah, texas. ain't it grand.

declansharbor 07-18-2013 07:20 PM

A buddy of mine shared the band Disturbed's view on this that they posted on their fb page. Woahhh.

Danzig 07-18-2013 09:07 PM

http://www.mediaite.com/online/mass-...ston-bomber/#4

a response from mass. police

and, yeah, declan, just saw what draiman had to say....i think he's a bit put out.

notyep59 07-19-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 935624)
Free speech; of course I have the choice of buying it or walking away. Something Obamacare is missing. But sometimes the constitution is right and sometimes it's not. Similar to the bible I guess. :wf

if you just put "I hate Obama and Obamacare" as your tagline, would your life be easier?

Danzig 07-19-2013 11:36 AM

^^ :D

the policeman who posted the photos has been relieved of duty...may lose his job.

bigrun 07-19-2013 05:22 PM

Here's an old one..
 

Danzig 07-19-2013 05:58 PM

:D
:tro:

ArlJim78 07-19-2013 08:13 PM

I don't get the choices, it conflates two separate issues. I thought the cover was in bad taste, but I'm for free speech. Saying "I feel that cover was inappropriate" is not the same as saying "they have no right to publish that cover"

NTamm1215 07-21-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 935645)
:tro:

i find it ironic that tx wanted to secede and then complained fema didn't give them enough $. that they say they don't want more regulations, especially not on business and industry (see storage facility, above) but they just had a second special session to force more regulations on businesses....
ah, texas. ain't it grand.

What are you talking about?

Some Texans have wanted to secede for going on 200 years. Using it as a generalization would be akin to saying that Americans want to invade Canada. Sure, there are some who do, but it is a minority sentiment.

The decision by FEMA to deny any aid to West because it "wasn't a major disaster" flew in the face of the president's promise that the needs of the citizens there would be met. The real argument would be why did Gov. Rick Perry lament not getting additional aid from FEMA when he triumphantly denied getting any federal assistance for his state when the economy tanked. That amounts to apples and oranges in my opinion.

Whatever you want to say about the special session is fine, it was about the abortion bill almost entirely. That's why he kept bringing them back.

Oh, and on the topic of this thread, the cover is disgraceful, but Rolling Stone is getting EXACTLY what they wanted.

Danzig 07-21-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 936168)
What are you talking about?

Some Texans have wanted to secede for going on 200 years. Using it as a generalization would be akin to saying that Americans want to invade Canada. Sure, there are some who do, but it is a minority sentiment.

The decision by FEMA to deny any aid to West because it "wasn't a major disaster" flew in the face of the president's promise that the needs of the citizens there would be met. The real argument would be why did Gov. Rick Perry lament not getting additional aid from FEMA when he triumphantly denied getting any federal assistance for his state when the economy tanked. That amounts to apples and oranges in my opinion.

Whatever you want to say about the special session is fine, it was about the abortion bill almost entirely. That's why he kept bringing them back.

Oh, and on the topic of this thread, the cover is disgraceful, but Rolling Stone is getting EXACTLY what they wanted.

what i'm talking about is just like what you mentioned, when perry, the other 'leaders' in texas and many of the citizens always crow about their independence, but then lambast not getting additional aid from the very feds they constantly deny needing. fema has given aid for the explosion-an explosion that texas would do well to learn from, as many feel that industry down there is terribly under-regulated. they weren't denied any aid. money, housing assitance, etc has been provided.
yes, it's a generalization, because in general regarding texas, that attitude is very real. i doubt it's a minority sentiment. of course, in texas, they seem to have a feeling of superiority, since they were once a country....the proud, but incredibly bankrupt republic of texas. i think texans are pretty clueless about what kind of state their country was in, and why it wanted to join the us so badly.

and yes, rolling stone got plenty of attention and pr, no doubt they will benefit from it.
as for the special session times 2, the state could have used the money spent on those for west, tx.

MaTH716 07-21-2013 12:47 PM

If this was the cover of Time or Newsweek, would it be creating as much of a buzz?

Danzig 07-21-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 936224)
If this was the cover of Time or Newsweek, would it be creating as much of a buzz?

same picture? i think so. i know some of the people time chose for man of the year got a lot of negative feedback.

bigrun 07-21-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 936224)
If this was the cover of Time or Newsweek, would it be creating as much of a buzz?

My fav mag back in the day...kaput..:wf

Danzig 07-24-2013 04:24 PM

jsut saw that the policeman who released photos in response to the stone cover has been put on restricted duty. at least he didn't get fired. altho, if i was stuck behind a desk rather than out and about, i'd probably wish i'd been fired.

dellinger63 07-24-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 936961)
altho, if i was stuck behind a desk rather than out and about, i'd probably wish i'd been fired.

Yet the CPD officers ordered back on the streets from behind a desk had a problem.

Despite the murder rate dropping in half over the past 20 years.

Still only a year min/max (with good behavior or two w/bad behavior) for an illegal gun crime in Chi town so maybe that could be a factor. Nothing to lose for a guy facing a year?


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