TimeformUS
 

Thanks. I'd certainly enjoy being in New Orleans in the winter and I know I would be an asset to the bettors in that role.

However, I'm on the team with TimeformUS right now...and have been working with them for over a year now...and we're in BETA mode and just about to launch.

If you're a TVG customer...you can check out the TimeformUS past performances right now.

I'm both a figuremaker and analyst for them.

I think you guys will really enjoy the past performances and figures. The PP's have a cleaner and more modernized look to them ... and a lot of really useful innovations have been made to help bettors get an edge.

A lot of good horse racing minds are involved with the team, and I'm very excited about the product, especially as it becomes more complete.

Marc Attenberg, the former Vice President/Digital Development at DRF during the years when Formulator got rolling, is my boss...and he's had to endure a lot of my input and suggestions...to go along with a lot of very good ideas already in place.

DerbyTrail poster CJ is the chief figuremaker. I think you guys will very much enjoy betting with TimeformUS past performances.

You have been busy. I'll have to look at the Timeform PPs. Best of luck to you and CJ.

Sounds like a great product. Congrats to both of you.

I can't wait to try them. For us non-TVG types, when do you expect them to be available?

Paul

Late this week.

Sounds great, looking forward to the product.

They launch this week. Exciting & innovative product, beautifully executed. Between Marc, CJ, Doug and the rest of their elite, dedicated horseplayer team, it should be a great success.

Congrats and good luck on the new endeavor.

CJ-

How much will they sell for when the product is up and running?

Good luck to the whole team and please keep us non-TVG members aware of when the new product is available. Sounds great

TimeformUS
 

This deserves its own thread:

www.timeformus.com

Best of luck guys.

Not really my department, but I know there will be subscription plans, and I believe the cost per card is $1.50 on that basis. There will be a lot more to come this week.

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Wow that's great news. Goodluck to u and CJ with the new chapter in the horse racing industry.:tro:

I'm gonna check it out. I always like reading and learning from your post/threads... Keep up your good work :)

I just watched a couple of the videos (pace projector, race ratings) and looked around a bit (enhanced foreign running lines, the long comment, etc)...

This is awesome!

Congrats and best of luck, Craig (... and all of you guys).

Well done!

Congrats Dougie-poo! The information that you have provided here has been both invaluable and original and you have taught me more about watching races and horse history than any other resource.

I can't wait to see your work there.

Really....He is still selling hot dog vouchers at PID that he scammed in a betting promotion. Just because he finally got a real job? The guy was O for 32 years now Lo and Behold CJ takes pity on him and he is Dougie Poo from Dougie poop?

Just Kidding

Congrats guys! Looking forward to it. Now i can see your frustration with the tracks tele timers as your numbers are formulated with pace and final time..Anyway, best of luck!

Great news. Been a big fan of CJs figures. Good luck guys

I just watched some videos and it looks very cool. I will sign up as soon as you open for business.

Paul

How are blinkers on/off going to be treated in the Pace Projector?

It looks tremendous guys. Nice touch with the free daily race and instructional videos because there's a lot of great info from what I can see.

It can be really frustrating, but it can be a good thing because we catch a lot of them that other providers don't. I'm sure we don't catch every one but do get most.

congrats, and best of luck!

That's a great question.

The pace projector is based off of past pace figures and running styles.

Blinkers are generally a speed enhancer and can sometimes fire up a horse early on, but they come in different cup sizes and it's very tough to quantify how much of an impact they will have on a horses early speed.

The pace projector is nice because it gives a quick and clean look at how the pace is expected to unfold based on past data... but it does not take into account the human factor or equipment changes like 1st blinkers. That part, is left up to the bettor.

The human factor is the other main thing that's hard to quantify. Jockeys, either by their own choice or by trainer instruction, can hustle a horse early and get it to show uncharacteristic levels of early speed. Just as they can grab a hold of the horse, and rate it along through the early stages, going much slower than it typically would.

If a jockey/trainer thinks that a race is paceless or thinks that the track is speed biased... they're more likely to ride aggressive early. In situations where the pace figures to be contested, and the strongest horses are mid-pack or closer types...you'll often see multiple jockeys trying to hold their horses through the early stages.

Basically, the human factor and equipment changes are left up to the bettor.

A great example of the usefulness of the pace projector in a high profile race just happened with the Queen's Plate last Sunday:



At just a glance, it was crystal clear that Midnight Aria was projected to be absolutely isolated on a loose early lead. As it turned out, he was able to glide along on a loose early lead with no pressure. Midnight Aria parlayed the perfect trip into a wire-to-wire win at 16/1 odds.

congrats on the new product line.doug cj. will you be doing any American pps for ascot and other big euro meets..?

This is really brilliant for the weekend player or one who has limited time to commit to their handicapping because even if the human factor is such that the race isn't run to the Pace Projector, one can print and note the Projector on how the race was really run and the circumstances surrounding the result to move forward to the next starts for the horses involved. (particularly for Breeders' Cup)

(Your rating systems of races is also super-friendly to the player who has less time to commit.)

Doug, great news--best of luck to you. No one deserves it more.

I remember when The Racing Times shook up the DRF 20+ years ago. I expect you and Timeform can do better than that and beat them at their own game, given the vastly decreased market entrance barriers afforded by modern technology.

I hope you get rich, sir!

No offense to CJ but the thing that actually interests me more than the figures on the product is that it sounds like it was created by someone involved in formulator and should be a direct competitor to formulator.

Looks like a great site but Internet Explorer won't work. Tough eliminating 25% of the market.

https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1531

Maybe they figure that anybody still using IE is too stupid to use their site?

:tro:

Not offended...

Congrates guys. Looks very interesting.

i didn't know that was an indication of stupidity. appreciate it.

I have worked in the computer field for 30 years. Nothing wrong with IE. Maybe Tector needs to keep his insults to himself.
Thanks Nick and Danzig.

the company i work for uses it, which means i use it. knowing how well the business is doing, they aren't stupid either.

I just tried tomorrow's free race from Belmont. I know all of the features aren't operational, but I don't understand the star system or how the selections are made. I read the site which says stars are based on recent form and morning line odds. But, what exactly does that mean?

I also wasn't sure how to use the pace projector. From that, it appears that the 6 will have a lose easy lead and has the highest spotlight speed figure but he is nowhere in the selections and only has three stars.

What am I missing with this?

Paul

The stars and selections are from Timeform (UK) and really have little to do with the content in the PPs. Not really my area but I know this is being addressed.